Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

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Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

Postby Sharon Vineyard » January 27th, 2018, 3:40 pm

Hey, it's me again. I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but the other forums didn't feel right, so... yeah.

I believe it was already mentioned that "APTX 4869" is a wordplay on Sherlock Holmes's name.
APTX 4869 is a pun on "Sherlock Holmes". 4869 can also be pronounced "Shi-Ya-Ro-Ku" (シャロク Sharoku), which translates into Sherlock. (http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... ame_origin)
I noticed now that you can also take Vermouth's two names, Sharon (シャロShi-Ya-Ro-N) and Chris (リス Ku-Ri-Su), combined to form that same Shi-Ya-Ro-Ku. Coincidence? Maybe. Important? Probably not. (Except if the one that chose the name has something to do with Vermouth...) Regardless, I wanted to share my findings. Thanks.

PS: Is there a difference between wordplay and pun? ;D I use the former, because in my language (German) the term for it is literally "wordplay" translated. Through the internet I've got to know "pun" for something funny. Just random thoughts to lighten the mood ;D


Edit: I just remembered, aren't there people who think that Vermouth is Karasuma's wife or daughter/descendant? (Explaining why she is the boss's favorite.) If that's the case, then they could have named her Sharon/Chris purposely, because he's a Sherlock Holmes fan (or his descendants). I always manage to fit things together, even if I don't believe in the theory myself ;D
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Re: Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

Postby blackmoon » January 30th, 2018, 8:36 pm

That is a very interesting find! So... would there be a wordplay in Akai's alias? Dai Moroboshi (諸星 大 ,Moroboshi Dai) sounds very much like 'die' moroboshi (stars) in English. So maybe a pun for the Death star? ;)
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Re: Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

Postby Gamma » February 9th, 2018, 5:31 am

Even if that means absolutely nothing, it's still so interesting!
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Re: Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

Postby S.Vineyard » February 9th, 2018, 4:43 pm

Wasn't it already established that Dai Moroboshi was just another Char Aznable reference?
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Re: Wordplay regarding Vermouth, Sherlock Holmes and APTX 4869 (might be coincidence)

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » February 9th, 2018, 11:32 pm

S.Vineyard wrote:
blackmoon wrote:That is a very interesting find! So... would there be a wordplay in Akai's alias? Dai Moroboshi (諸星 大 ,Moroboshi Dai) sounds very much like 'die' moroboshi (stars) in English. So maybe a pun for the Death star? ;)
Wasn't it already established that Dai Moroboshi was just another Char Aznable reference?


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