Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-1005

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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby Spimer » September 15th, 2017, 3:07 pm

@eros1607

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No, the Night Baron virus activated in the Haibara debut case because the virus is inside of floppies edited with PCs of the organization and it can detect if the floppy is being operated in an unauthorized computer and activate to delete all data on the floppy and the computer being used as well.

It's not through the Internet (which was dial-up Internet back then).
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby eros1607 » September 15th, 2017, 3:17 pm

Spimer wrote:@eros1607

Spoiler:
No, the Night Baron virus activated in the Haibara debut case because the virus is inside of floppies edited with PCs of the organization and it can detect if the floppy is being operated in an unauthorized computer and activate to delete all data on the floppy and the computer being used as well.

It's not through the Internet (which was dial-up Internet back then).


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That's what I mean. Guess my sentence not clear enough. Either the computer of Rumi is authorized or she manage to copy the data from an authorized computer (which is a bit ridiculous for me) or with some magic, the disk/usb whatever that she has in hand doesn't affect her computer.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby Antiyonder » September 15th, 2017, 6:43 pm

I'll stick by my word and limit discussion on the pacing or behind the scenes stuff to the appropriate thread, but I still feel even with all of that it's hard to be happy about the kiss or even Ran's desire to be Shinichi's girlfriends.

1. Continues to lie to her.
2. Won't let anyone else date her, even if the guy in question is a decent friendly person.
3. His confession is preceded with Ran having the audacity to want to be treated like a mature, intelligent person, yet he makes himself out to be the victim.

Part of the reason I could enjoy the story inspite of the pace and the status quo is that Shinichi's predicament felt like it was suppose to be a life lesson about the dangers of hubris and thinking that you're unbeatable.

The story would have him making mistakes and even conceding that he had a lot of intellectual growing to do.

But now? The narrative seeks to downplay intentional flaws, while having accidental ones that he never receives comeuppance for.

Basically he's growing away from being a flawed person with the potential to grow out of said flaws and more becoming a karma houdini: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KarmaHoudini

I mean if you have a kid for example who acts up, you don't need to shout in their ears and disown them, but you sure as hell don't respond by giving them cake, ice cream and permission to stay up on a school night to watch the late late show.
The Mystery of Conan Edogawa.

Arguably one of the best attempts at tackling the story of "Ran discovering the secret behind Conan". It's strong point is taking a common plot for Detective Conan fan fics and presenting it in a fresh manner such as:
- Touching on things that aren't dealt with in the show or discussed much.
- While there is some understanding towards Conan's predicament, the fic doesn't ignore the problematic approach he takes towards keeping quiet.

So, do yourself a favor and read this. I only wish I could so something half as decent.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby mtcc » September 16th, 2017, 5:54 am

i think rumi and rei work togther
iin rumi first case she heard the name of conan shoes from haibara
and in higo starp case rei mintion the name when conan use it
so rumi told rei about it
and may rei the source for the aptx list that rumi have
sorry for bad english
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby S.Vineyard » September 17th, 2017, 11:14 am

Chinese File is out, and the Red Thread Facebook Group provided some additional text translations.

https://www.facebook.com/DCTheRedThread ... uU&fref=nf

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What I find interesting is, that Shinichi still had another antidote pill left afterall, but decided not to take it, because of the 8 hour rule and he would already have been back in Tokyo at that time.

So providing, that he doesn't give this pill back to Haibara, he now has an "Emergency Pill" left..
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby blackmoon » September 18th, 2017, 1:47 am

eros1607 wrote:
Spimer wrote:@eros1607

Spoiler:
No, the Night Baron virus activated in the Haibara debut case because the virus is inside of floppies edited with PCs of the organization and it can detect if the floppy is being operated in an unauthorized computer and activate to delete all data on the floppy and the computer being used as well.

It's not through the Internet (which was dial-up Internet back then).


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That's what I mean. Guess my sentence not clear enough. Either the computer of Rumi is authorized or she manage to copy the data from an authorized computer (which is a bit ridiculous for me) or with some magic, the disk/usb whatever that she has in hand doesn't affect her computer.


So what do you think is the probability of Rumi actually being Sharon or Vermouth in disguise rather than Rum? ;)
"one should stick with one's original plan" (初志貫徹 shoshi kantetsu) ;)
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby eros1607 » September 18th, 2017, 7:01 am

blackmoon wrote:
So what do you think is the probability of Rumi actually being Sharon or Vermouth in disguise rather than Rum? ;)


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Extremely unlikely, Rumi has scars on her body while Sharon/Chris doesn't. Besides, if Rumi is Vermouth, Haibara will sense the BO aura right away, like in the bus case when Vermouth disguised as Araide. I don't think Rumi is Rum either just because it will become very obvious haha.
But who knows?
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby Detective Magic » September 18th, 2017, 1:41 pm

If you don't care about a little 1005 file review-like-something from a random person you don't have to read it :D
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Well, for me file 1005 seems like a really nice file. It has so many things people (and I) wanted:
-Shinichi/Conan transformation
-big ShinRan moment (although I prefer ConanxHaibara)
-Heizuha moment (kind of?)
-consequences of Shinichi's appearance in public (so may people wanted that) --->Sera and Mary become interested in the antidote, and its developer (Haibara of course),
RUM candidates become interested in Shinichi ---> a plot case
-from what I've seen we even have 2 whole pages with Yuusaku and Yukiko who appear really rarely
-we also have some material for a future Shinichi case (provided that he doesn't give the last antidote pill back to Ai, but I doubt he would do that)

So I think this file was very good. And your thoughts? Because there surely are some people that did not like it at all. What did you not like?
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby eros1607 » September 18th, 2017, 2:36 pm

Detective Magic wrote:If you don't care about a little 1005 file review-like-something from a random person you don't have to read it :D
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Well, for me file 1005 seems like a really nice file. It has so many things people (and I) wanted:
-Shinichi/Conan transformation
-big ShinRan moment (although I prefer ConanxHaibara)
-Heizuha moment (kind of?)
-consequences of Shinichi's appearance in public (so may people wanted that) --->Sera and Mary become interested in the antidote, and its developer (Haibara of course),
RUM candidates become interested in Shinichi ---> a plot case
-from what I've seen we even have 2 whole pages with Yuusaku and Yukiko who appear really rarely
-we also have some material for a future Shinichi case (provided that he doesn't give the last antidote pill back to Ai, but I doubt he would do that)

So I think this file was very good. And your thoughts? Because there surely are some people that did not like it at all. What did you not like?


Spoiler:
I am surprised that Okita likes Moroha Kurogane lol. Moroha is a hardcore (and original) version of Haibara: more violent, more sarcastic and gifted in Kendo. If Shiho cannot appear more in future files, more Moroha is good because Shiho is the softcore copy of Moroha.

The file itself contain more development (than expected) but remember this is Gosho. I do not expect an immediate follow up. Besides, Rumi getting access to the full list of APTX victims kind of bother me because what I had written about.

Overall, the celebrating arc is utterly boring for me if not for the last file. Gosho does a good job making me not pay much attention to this arc, even to the case itself. And official couple status not confirmed yet? Lol, Gosho.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby ryndk » September 19th, 2017, 10:53 am

any news when will chapter 1006 come out? so excited about all the Rum candidates reading news about Shinichi
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby Kor » September 19th, 2017, 11:42 am

ryndk wrote:any news when will chapter 1006 come out? so excited about all the Rum candidates reading news about Shinichi


It officially comes out on the fourth of October. We may see spoilers a few days before that, though.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-10XX

Postby blackmoon » September 19th, 2017, 10:07 pm

eros1607 wrote:
blackmoon wrote:
So what do you think is the probability of Rumi actually being Sharon or Vermouth in disguise rather than Rum? ;)


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Extremely unlikely, Rumi has scars on her body while Sharon/Chris doesn't. Besides, if Rumi is Vermouth, Haibara will sense the BO aura right away, like in the bus case when Vermouth disguised as Araide. I don't think Rumi is Rum either just because it will become very obvious haha.
But who knows?


Those are very good points! But it would be strange for Rumi to have access to BO's "hit-list" if she isn't related to BO in some way though. Although from the previous arcs, Hyoue Kuroda seem to know about her in the past. So those two seem to have a suspicious relationship...
"one should stick with one's original plan" (初志貫徹 shoshi kantetsu) ;)
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-1005

Postby irishock » September 21st, 2017, 7:40 am

Why won't Sera just threaten to leak Conan's secret to Ran if she really wants to know about his antidote?
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-1005

Postby MeiTanteixX » September 21st, 2017, 7:56 am

irishock wrote:Why won't Sera just threaten to leak Conan's secret to Ran if she really wants to know about his antidote?
because as much as she claims it, she is not a bad kid.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 1000-1005

Postby irishock » September 21st, 2017, 9:18 am

MeiTanteixX wrote:
irishock wrote:Why won't Sera just threaten to leak Conan's secret to Ran if she really wants to know about his antidote?
because as much as she claims it, she is not a bad kid.


Heiji isn't bad either and that's what he did to get it out of Conan's mouth lol

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