Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby dccd » April 25th, 2017, 7:18 am

Plus, Gosho already said that the story in and around #1000 will be a love comedy and I doubt that he will just throw in a random three chapter BO case between now and the story for #1000.


Wait, what?
If this is true, this really sound to me as if CH1000 wont feature any BO. To me personally, this would be a disaster.
I thought it´s only confirmed that Shinichi will appear, but you have to seem more information.

Well... would you be so kind and sum up again whats confirmed so far?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 25th, 2017, 7:38 am

dccd wrote:
Plus, Gosho already said that the story in and around #1000 will be a love comedy and I doubt that he will just throw in a random three chapter BO case between now and the story for #1000.


Wait, what?
If this is true, this really sound to me as if CH1000 wont feature any BO. To me personally, this would be a disaster.
I thought it´s only confirmed that Shinichi will appear, but you have to seem more information.

Well... would you be so kind and sum up again whats confirmed so far?


I wouldn't assume that Shinichi/Ran Love Comedy in File 1000 = No BO at all in File 1000. Plus, there's the matter of the case before this and the case after. File 888–File 898 was the Bourbon arc climax—you would've thought File 900 would be part of the Bourbon arc climax, but, lo and behold, it wasn't. So, basically, if we don't get BO in File 1000 (or we get BO in a smaller role than you may care for), maybe that's because they'll be in/have a bigger role to play in the case before and/or the case after File 1000.

And here's some info Gosho's put out about File 1000:
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Postby Serinox » April 25th, 2017, 8:17 am

Yeah, and in addition that, it was already going through Japanese social media that Gosho apparantly said at the Let's Talk Day 2017 in a off-panel conversation, that Ch. 1000 would be a love comedy. At the time it seemed like a baseless and thus unlikely rumor, but now with all the postcards and the movie guidebook, it all comes together.
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Postby k11chi » April 25th, 2017, 8:34 am

dccd wrote:
Plus, Gosho already said that the story in and around #1000 will be a love comedy and I doubt that he will just throw in a random three chapter BO case between now and the story for #1000.


Wait, what?
If this is true, this really sound to me as if CH1000 wont feature any BO. To me personally, this would be a disaster.
I thought it´s only confirmed that Shinichi will appear, but you have to seem more information.

Well... would you be so kind and sum up again whats confirmed so far?

It's just a file and there's only 15 pages. If Gosho believes that the main characters deserve the spotlight in the legendary file 1000 then that sounds fitting to me.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 25th, 2017, 11:37 am

k11chi wrote:It's just a file and there's only 15 pages. If Gosho believes that the main characters deserve the spotlight in the legendary file 1000 then that sounds fitting to me.


You mean 16. Unless you're excluding the cover page due to it having no dialogue or scenes. Though we may get colored pages in File 1000—in which case, the file would actually be longer than 16 pages.

Yep, from the beginning, Shinichi/Conan, Ran and Kogoro have been the main characters, so a Shinichi/Ran story seems about right.
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Postby jimmy_kud0_tv2 » April 25th, 2017, 12:33 pm

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:You mean 16. Unless you're excluding the cover page due to it having no dialogue or scenes. Though we may get colored pages in File 1000—in which case, the file would actually be longer than 16 pages.


Color spread chapters (like aquarium flashback ch 2) are 17 pages, but you also have to remember that when that happens 2 whole pages are devoted to the same image so its not really longer in any way. Its still 15 pages of regular panels of story.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 25th, 2017, 10:11 pm

jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:You mean 16. Unless you're excluding the cover page due to it having no dialogue or scenes. Though we may get colored pages in File 1000—in which case, the file would actually be longer than 16 pages.


Color spread chapters (like aquarium flashback ch 2) are 17 pages, but you also have to remember that when that happens 2 whole pages are devoted to the same image so its not really longer in any way. Its still 15 pages of regular panels of story.


But those kinds of pages (colored ones) actually have dialogue, actually have scenes. Regular intro pages are typically Shinichi/Conan cosplaying or doing something relevant to the case's/file's subject matter—it's not directly related to any scenes in the file, and has no dialogue.

Excluding the intro page (and the fact that the last page of every DC file has never been labeled 15—it's been labeled 16 or a number higher than that).

While there has been one file over 20 pages (File 2) and one over 30 pages (File 1), there has never been a 15 page File in DC history.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby jimmy_kud0_tv2 » April 26th, 2017, 6:03 pm

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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Though we may get colored pages in File 1000—in which case, the file would actually be longer than 16 pages.

Color spread chapters (like aquarium flashback ch 2) are 17 pages, but you also have to remember that when that happens 2 whole pages are devoted to the same image so its not really longer in any way. Its still 15 pages of regular panels of story.

But those kinds of pages (colored ones) actually have dialogue, actually have scenes. Regular intro pages are typically Shinichi/Conan cosplaying or doing something relevant to the case's/file's subject matter—it's not directly related to any scenes in the file, and has no dialogue.

It depends on what chapters you are talking about, in the past there have been a few color spreads with no dialogue. My point was that a color spread is still effectively an enlarged single panel with usually no more than one dialogue bubble. Its not really that much extra content. Even non-color page chapters have used their title pages as panels in the past such as the Kawanakajima case.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 27th, 2017, 11:42 pm

jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Though we may get colored pages in File 1000—in which case, the file would actually be longer than 16 pages.

Color spread chapters (like aquarium flashback ch 2) are 17 pages, but you also have to remember that when that happens 2 whole pages are devoted to the same image so its not really longer in any way. Its still 15 pages of regular panels of story.

But those kinds of pages (colored ones) actually have dialogue, actually have scenes. Regular intro pages are typically Shinichi/Conan cosplaying or doing something relevant to the case's/file's subject matter—it's not directly related to any scenes in the file, and has no dialogue.

It depends on what chapters you are talking about, in the past there have been a few color spreads with no dialogue. My point was that a color spread is still effectively an enlarged single panel with usually no more than one dialogue bubble. Its not really that much extra content. Even non-color page chapters have used their title pages as panels in the past such as the Kawanakajima case.


And my point is that there is no 15 page DC file. It's 16 or more. Hence my questioning of referring to a DC file as 15 pages long.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby ryndk » April 28th, 2017, 2:46 am

when will the next file (994) come out?
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Postby Serinox » April 28th, 2017, 3:18 am

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:And my point is that there is no 15 page DC file. It's 16 or more. Hence my questioning of referring to a DC file as 15 pages long.

Harping a bit too much on technicalities here, aren't we? Yes, technically every file has 16 pages, but effectively, there are only 15 pages in which stuff is happening.

ryndk wrote:when will the next file (994) come out?

May, 31. Spoilers will probably come around May, 26.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 28th, 2017, 5:19 am

Serinox wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:And my point is that there is no 15 page DC file. It's 16 or more. Hence my questioning of referring to a DC file as 15 pages long.

Harping a bit too much on technicalities here, aren't we? Yes, technically every file has 16 pages, but effectively, there are only 15 pages in which stuff is happening.


Yep. I have no response to offer, other than to say that you're 100% on the mark. In the end, I just prefer to think of DC files as 16 pages or more, and not 15 pages, and that's that. You wanna consider the cover pages a mere technicality that shouldn't be counted, and thus consider DC files to be 15 pages? That's your preference, and that's that.

I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a mod intervention by the second or third post about this. In hindsight, I either should've marked each of my posts about this with the off-topic overlay, or just had this conversation over PM. My apologies for not doing either.
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Postby MeiTanteixX » April 28th, 2017, 4:32 pm

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a mod intervention by the second or third post about this.

Well, Spimer and Kor are not bots so... :P
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby Spimer » April 29th, 2017, 6:34 am

I've been keeping an eye on this but I thought the discussion would end soon...

Anyway, I don't see the point on arguing whether colored pages bring more content to the files.

Please keeps posts related to the file contents or plot speculation.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 990-993

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 29th, 2017, 12:41 pm

MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a mod intervention by the second or third post about this.

Well, Spimer and Kor are not bots so... :P


No, but I have a history of being involved in off-topic derailments and even more so in linking mistakes, so I thought they'd shut this down earlier due to the (dare-I-say) stereotypical pedantry of the derailment I started, here.

Lesson learned—don't start a topic derailment due to (dare-I-say) stereotypical pedantry (i.e. (technical) number of pages and which ones "count"). :-[
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