Rum Arc Discussion Thread (Plot + Characters)

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what was he then doing in nagano after scotch death for
4 years??
since his mission was accomplished.
The BO
never knew Scotch's name. So Hoye possibly was there in Nagano to check if Scocth's bro i.e. Komei is a threat to BO or not.
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Have you gone into detail on Kuroda, Meitantei? If so, where?
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I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
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Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
This shows that someone is disguising as him.
which is obvious since he is someone relevant to plot.
and there is noway a chef could be relevent to plot.
he has to be someone else.

but remember wakasa and kuroda are also relevant to plot.
The fact that he s disguised means he is someone else.
he could be anyone else relevant to plot.
rum isnt the only possibilty .he could be tsutomu also
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Post by Idon'tknow »

vaibhavgupte wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 9:18 pm
Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
This shows that someone is disguising as him.
which is obvious since he is someone relevant to plot.
and there is noway a chef could be relevent to plot.
he has to be someone else.

but remember wakasa and kuroda are also relevant to plot.



The fact that he s disguised means he is someone else.
he could be anyone else relevant to plot.
rum isnt the only possibilty .he could be tsutomu also
I doubt it would be tsutomu disguising as wakita.

No matter how you look at it there's no way kuroda is rum. Why would he need zero to investigate kudo when he has fully access to the cases he's solved and can ask Sato, takagi or megrue. He was probably an investigator for the case or something.
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Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:42 pm
vaibhavgupte wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 9:18 pm
Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
This shows that someone is disguising as him.
which is obvious since he is someone relevant to plot.
and there is noway a chef could be relevent to plot.
he has to be someone else.

but remember wakasa and kuroda are also relevant to plot.



The fact that he s disguised means he is someone else.
he could be anyone else relevant to plot.
rum isnt the only possibilty .he could be tsutomu also
I doubt it would be tsutomu disguising as wakita.

No matter how you look at it there's no way kuroda is rum. Why would he need zero to investigate kudo when he has fully access to the cases he's solved and can ask Sato, takagi or megrue. He was probably an investigator for the case or something.
There is a kuroda is rum theory by zerozaki .The link of which is put just above your first post.
although I dont agree with the theory. its still very good
theiry and has good chance of being true.

And kuroda is not rum doesnt make wakita rum.
another strong theory about wakita is that he could be
new head of aptx project. his chemistry knowledge justify it
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vaibhavgupte wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 11:00 pm
Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 10:42 pm
vaibhavgupte wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 9:18 pm
Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
This shows that someone is disguising as him.
which is obvious since he is someone relevant to plot.
and there is noway a chef could be relevent to plot.
he has to be someone else.

but remember wakasa and kuroda are also relevant to plot.



The fact that he s disguised means he is someone else.
he could be anyone else relevant to plot.
rum isnt the only possibilty .he could be tsutomu also
I doubt it would be tsutomu disguising as wakita.

No matter how you look at it there's no way kuroda is rum. Why would he need zero to investigate kudo when he has fully access to the cases he's solved and can ask Sato, takagi or megrue. He was probably an investigator for the case or something.
There is a kuroda is rum theory by zerozaki .The link of which is put just above your first post.
although I dont agree with the theory. its still very good
theiry and has good chance of being true.

And kuroda is not rum doesnt make wakita rum.
another strong theory about wakita is that he could be
new head of aptx project. his chemistry knowledge justify it
Tbh any of those three could be rum due to the lack of information there is...

But im leaning more towards wakita being rum
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Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
Wakita is shown to be right handed from the get go.
There are only two instances where he is shown using his left hand instead of right.
One in his introduction case where he grabs mouri's hand. But that was because his left hand was closer to mouri. Otherwise the rest of the case he uses right hand to serve beer and stuff.
Second instance is in snowy Villa mountain case where he holds the playing cards in the train, but that is only for the brief moment.

In the case 1056, he takes the smartphone with his left hand from Yoko because his right hand is occupied with the package. So there is nothing about ' all of a sudden'.
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Reader wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 2:40 am
Idon'tknow wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 3:33 pm
I actually just noticed something interesting... In the latest Manga chapter wakita seems to be holding his phone using his left hands which Is unusual because he usually holds his phone with his right hand meaning he's a right handed person. But all of a sudden he's left handed?
This means that someone was or is disguising as him but who? RUM... There's no way goshu would directly show us rums face. He alway puts a twist.
Wakita is shown to be right handed from the get go.
There are only two instances where he is shown using his left hand instead of right.
One in his introduction case where he grabs mouri's hand. But that was because his left hand was closer to mouri. Otherwise the rest of the case he uses right hand to serve beer and stuff.
Second instance is in snowy Villa mountain case where he holds the playing cards in the train, but that is only for the brief moment.

In the case 1056, he takes the smartphone with his left hand from Yoko because his right hand is occupied with the package. So there is nothing about ' all of a sudden'.

https://images.app.goo.gl/L45of9M8aL3Fpbhx9

But on chapter 1056 he's holding the sushi with his right hand
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Post by Reader »

That is left hand holding the sushi in that panel you mentioned.
But that is one more instance. Though it is an interesting one. If wakita is right handed, that means he was carrying the sushi in the right hand first (though that may not always be true), so to check his phone he switched the sushi to left hand and held the phone in right.
But if he was holding the sushi in left all along then there's nothing there.
So my interpretation as follows: in the panel you mentioned, wakita was using his fingers on the phone (to scroll up down maybe) so he used his dominant hand (right). Gosho wanted to highlight that.
In 1056 however, he briefly held the phone to view the playing cards dying message and was not doing anything with it.
If you find counter argument, feel free to share.
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Post by Idon'tknow »

Reader wrote:
July 28th, 2020, 12:25 am
That is left hand holding the sushi in that panel you mentioned.
But that is one more instance. Though it is an interesting one. If wakita is right handed, that means he was carrying the sushi in the right hand first (though that may not always be true), so to check his phone he switched the sushi to left hand and held the phone in right.
But if he was holding the sushi in left all along then there's nothing there.
So my interpretation as follows: in the panel you mentioned, wakita was using his fingers on the phone (to scroll up down maybe) so he used his dominant hand (right). Gosho wanted to highlight that.
In 1056 however, he briefly held the phone to view the playing cards dying message and was not doing anything with it.
If you find counter argument, feel free to share.
He held the phone with his left hand on chapter 1056 and didn't bother to switch the sushi to his left hand but bothered to switch the sushi to his left hand in the panel I showed?
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Post by Mohamed Ebrahem »

Why you complicate Asaka’s identity , Zero :) :)

In episode 861 , when Conan was reading about Haneda Kohji case on the blog , written on it :
Asaka is the prime suspect in killing Haneda Kohji , but she has fled and missing since that day .

In chapter 1052 of the manga :
Bourbon said: " The one holding the shogi piece is the prime suspect in killing Haneda Kohji " .

We all know that Wakasa Rumi is holding that shogi piece , so if you tie those two conclusions together , you can easily conclude that Wakasa is Asaka .
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guys this new case makes wakita is tsutomu arguement very strong for me.
coz in antique facet case( 1035-1038) its mentioned
that tsutomu was involved in this case later at request of
haneda's . so tsutomu wasnt present at crime scene.
kuroda and rumi have directly shown memories of kohji.
The only one who hasnt shown any memory of kohji case directly fom scene is
wakita. but we know that tsutomu was investigating this
case and its pretty obvious considering akai family intellect
that he found oit the shogi piece was taken by wakasa.

another arguement strengthening this fact is that
wakita knows some hard english words that cpuld be tsutomu who is british citizen.

And he is looking complete red herring for rum.
how he himself says he is impatient and shows english like rum. mentions himself shogi piece for conan.
by gosho's style this is pure red herring.
I dont think gosho will make rum so obvious.

And last part if you believe tsutomu is alive (I am not saying this is compulsory true but if this is true)
pretty much wakita is only option for tsutomu.
since kuroda has a direct memory of kohji.
he cant be tsutomu as he wasnt there at that time.
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vaibhavgupte wrote:
July 28th, 2020, 9:43 pm
guys this new case makes wakita is tsutomu arguement very strong for me.
coz in antique facet case( 1035-1038) its mentioned
that tsutomu was involved in this case later at request of
haneda's . so tsutomu wasnt present at crime scene.
kuroda and rumi have directly shown memories of kohji.
The only one who hasnt shown any memory of kohji case directly fom scene is
wakita. but we know that tsutomu was investigating this
case and its pretty obvious considering akai family intellect
that he found oit the shogi piece was taken by wakasa.

another arguement strengthening this fact is that
wakita knows some hard english words that cpuld be tsutomu who is british citizen.

And he is looking complete red herring for rum.
how he himself says he is impatient and shows english like rum. mentions himself shogi piece for conan.
by gosho's style this is pure red herring.
I dont think gosho will make rum so obvious.

And last part if you believe tsutomu is alive (I am not saying this is compulsory true but if this is true)
pretty much wakita is only option for tsutomu.
since kuroda has a direct memory of kohji.
he cant be tsutomu as he wasnt there at that time.
Honstly I don't think tsutomu has even appeared in the anime yet (other than the memories of course)
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