The actual thing is that the mother of the 4 brothers worked in the Haneda family as a housemaid. So Conan earned the info that Haneda Kouji was the son of a rich family.
Tantei San wrote:MeiTanteixX wrote:Spoiler:it was fake spoilers. New ones came out, and they are vastly different and reveal that Haneda family are the ones that requested the Ooka's help.Spoiler:Wait what?
What fake spoilers...
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Did some stuff in the meantime.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Literary framing of Rum arc
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Rum's profile
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Some new analysis
Zerozaki4869 wrote:"Why, specifically, do you think this outcome would be bad from a writing perspective?"
After we got the magnitude of power and influence wielded by Ooka Family, I can't see a way of anyone sneaking through with fake references and fake identities. Plus Iori is yet to do anything remotely suspicious, plus the straws that people use to justify that theory already had been destroyed. I don't see anything funny there, but Iori=Asaka is still a good game.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Now I also have doubts over the true dying message/i.e. the shogi piece. Chances are Rumi's piece is a memento/good luck charm given by Kohji to Rumi.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Those are just some possibilities that I was pondering over. I do think white haired Hoye is probably Rum if not Rum's right hand. If he is Rum then it is likely that he also was Asaka and was identified by Kohji in Juke hotel, so Kohji had to die.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:I think Rumi is more likely to be some sort of a relation of Kohji, plus she could be one from Miyano family, but my I don't favour Rumi=BO argument anymore. I think Haibara's radar is more in line with Hoye being the source. Plus that APTX list could be a mere pdf file/image file obtained by Rumi. I currently favour Rumi being an NPA agent hence knowing the idea of "Mouri's bag of wisdom." Which further supports Rumi's cognizance of "The 10 year old case in Teitan warehouse" and consistently testing of Conan.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:The supposed cleanliness of Amanda's room insinuates that Asaka was either an accomplice/killer or was lured away from the scene. So either Asaka was Rum/Rum's subordinate or a bonafide person who was tricked by Rum into leaving his post empty. So Hoye=Rum/Rum's subordinate=Asaka)i.e. evil Asaka is one route the other being Muga=Asaka i.e.good Asaka.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Maybe wait a bit for more Kohji case info. If one wants to make a jump, only Hoye's name is a real name and was existing for past 17 years. So if one wants a jump then it's a pawn piece.(Which has Hoye's name's Kanji on it)
Zerozaki4869 wrote:I personally think balck haired Hoye=White haired Hoye. The swap was a misdirection so that one can erroneously put Tsutomu in that blank spot if they go by Rumi=Female yaiba and Wakita=Boss' assistant hints.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Bourbon, working with Rumi to take down the spy who outed Scotch(i.e. Kuroda).
Zerozaki4869 wrote:"There actually aren't many panels showing Muga's right hand clear enough for us to see the index finger/ring finger difference... have you been able to determine whether his ring finger is longer than his index finger—like Asaka—or not?
Come to think of it, there aren't many good views of Hyōe's right index and right ring finger, either, are there? Any way to tell, in that respect?"
Didn't want to use it for out-manga inference, but you're right. That's why I'm suspicious of them, Kuroda even keeps his fist balled, whenever he takes his hand out of his pockets.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:"What was Hyōe's reaction to seeing Shiho/Ai (File 920 & File 987–File 989)? What does he think of her resemblance to a young Sherry?"
Blame Bourbon and Sherry's failing radar for it.
Bourbon must have reported both BO and NPA that Sherry was ripped apart in that blast. So Kuroda if he is BO has verified doubly that Sherry is dead, plus despite the resemblance, the idea of shrinking and double evidence to believe Bourbon would surely let Sherry off the hook.
"So when did Hyōe awaken from his coma?"
Hoye looks too strong and healthy to be out of Coma just now. I would expect he got out of Coma around the time when Shuichi was still infiltrating the BO/inside BO. Or He came out of coma before Sherry got those Rum descriptions.
Zerozaki4869 wrote:Though for once I think Kuroda thought that Rumi might be from BO trying to prod Shinichi/Conan(i.e. his enemy/Tsutomu/the pesky detective who thinks that he is stronger than Hoye)
"Why is Rumi testing Shinichi/Conan? Shouldn't she have heard from Rei that he's trustworthy? Just how free-range is Rumi? If Rumi is NPA, shouldn't Hyōe have taken more action against her than merely stalk her, given his own position of authority?"
Well for starters smart people don't take everything at face value, she could even think that Rei is colluding with someone else/Rum(given her detective skills she must have figured out that Rei works for Karasuma group for infiltration purposes after the Scarlet attack.) so she tests Conan.
I think Hoye doesn't recognize Rumi from one of the force, it's not easy to check every single NPA officer also "U MASCARA" thing won't be an NPA officer's doing, more like a Kohji case player's doing.
Except... it is quite clearly shown that Rum is interested and gathering intel on Kudo Shinichi (File 1008), while it's in fact Gin who is revealed to be concerned and planning to take action towards the spy infestation (File 898).Zerozaki4869 wrote:I don't think Rum's target is Shinichi, it looks more like Rum's target is the spy infestation.
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