Fit the pieces together

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MeiTanteixX
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Re: Fit the pieces together

Postby MeiTanteixX » March 8th, 2017, 3:32 pm

kkuuddoo wrote:I don't think that Bourbon is one of the main BO Members, I would consider Vermouth to be main or important, along side Gin.

Wealso have the boss, Rum and maybe some new not yet introduced members, BO really needs some more loyal people since vermouth is Grey and Bourbon is a spy along side CIA's Kir

We have Wakita as well(although still not confirmed). His loyalty might be on par with Gin(if not above, based on his possible close position to the Boss).
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''Image
Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''

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Kor
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Re: Fit the pieces together

Postby Kor » March 8th, 2017, 8:50 pm

MeiTanteixX wrote:
kkuuddoo wrote:I don't think that Bourbon is one of the main BO Members, I would consider Vermouth to be main or important, along side Gin.

Wealso have the boss, Rum and maybe some new not yet introduced members, BO really needs some more loyal people since vermouth is Grey and Bourbon is a spy along side CIA's Kir

We have Wakita as well(although still not confirmed). His loyalty might be on par with Gin(if not above, based on his possible close position to the Boss).


Aren't you jumping the gun pretty heavily here?
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Re: Fit the pieces together

Postby MeiTanteixX » March 9th, 2017, 3:53 am

Kor wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
kkuuddoo wrote:I don't think that Bourbon is one of the main BO Members, I would consider Vermouth to be main or important, along side Gin.

Wealso have the boss, Rum and maybe some new not yet introduced members, BO really needs some more loyal people since vermouth is Grey and Bourbon is a spy along side CIA's Kir

We have Wakita as well(although still not confirmed). His loyalty might be on par with Gin(if not above, based on his possible close position to the Boss).


Aren't you jumping the gun pretty heavily here?

Only if I addressed this as fact(which I didn't). It's not based on nothing anyway.
btw, what's the harm if I was?
DC's Awesome Qoutes:
Spoiler:
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''Image
Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
Image Image
Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
Image
Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
Image
Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''

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Re: Fit the pieces together

Postby blackmoon » July 25th, 2017, 3:33 am

Tantei San wrote:All right my turn..!
1. Kuroda- Rum in disguise, And using actual kuroda's coma as mean to not use much of disguise(wearing glasses and using the stick)

2. Wakita- Actual kuroda in disguise. Actual NPA commander. But when he got the news of another kuroda in NPA he disguised him self and he wasn't that harmed so he isn't using any stick.

3. Rumi- Sent by WAKITA, he knows about conan being in contact with the FBI so he sent rumi as a teacher.(Also a relative/lover/someone to kohji)

4. Asaka- Mary/??/Dad Akai
1. Mary- If she is Asaka, then she probably was hired by Rum/BO for the eviction of kohji haneda and later RUM was to kill her by using APTX but only ended up making her shrink.(leading to the fact, the he knows APTX is shrinking some to kids)
2. If someone else is asaka we might have to check.
3. If Dad akai is asaka then probably mary either saw him killing kohji-amanda and ran to which RUM stopped her and gave her APTX.

5. Tsutomu Akai- Alive! That's all i can say.Also, I just don't think Tsutomu can ever be RUM(for which he will be not only betraying his son and wife but if the theory goes by BO was after him to KILL.!!? Why would he ever become No.2 of a underground crime syndicate that is after his LIFE?Also I still think that the mystery man is he himself. Even Detectiveconanwikia has it stated.

Also, the Uploader for kohji haneda has to be someone from the NPA/MPD/FBI since the case was in US.

There are many loose ends to my theory to which i will change later. as I can think of more. For the time being bear with it.! Feel free to counter.


Hey, interesting take. Actually, you're probably the first person suggesting that Mary could be Asaka the body guard that was shrunk, and I'm guessing that Tsutomu Akai was probably the one who came to her rescue and saved her from Rum's murderous hands. I read an article from someone else who said Mary looked like the wife of Tsutomu and mother of Sera (proven by Conan's recall of a beach encounter with Sera.) http://aminoapps.com/page/anime/5165781 ... -flashback

So, I think Tsutomu is still alive as Mary is still alive, and they being alive is what Rum screwed up in this case from 17 years ago. So... I think Tsutomu is probably disguised as someone else (as Shukichi Akai disguised himself as Subaru), maybe even disguised as Kuroda... but... here's a suggestion that's even more wild and out of the box.

What if... Tsutomu Akai also took APTX and shrank? So say he was shrank to age 10, after 17 years he would be roughly his current age 27, so he became and took on the identity of his son Shukichi, which echoes with the like father like son theory? Hmm... but if Tsutomu was able to age while Mary remained a child, then that has to mean that Mary continued to take the APTX to remain a child to hide from Rum who would recognize her as Asaka? Makes sense?
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