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Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby Swagnarok » October 31st, 2016, 10:26 pm

My theory is that Rum uses two different sets of glass eyes: one for everyday activities, one which isn't at all conspicuous and looks more or less like a normal human eye. The other is obviously a glass eye, and Rum uses this in certain interactions with certain people, so that the word spreads that Rum has a glass eye. This is done intentionally to mislead his enemies; they'll be on the lookout for a guy with an easily identifiable glass eye (after all, word of it wouldn't have gotten out had it been subtle), which'll allow him to escape suspicion when using the normal-looking one.
Another possibility is, of course, that Rum himself is responsible for the rumour that he has a glass eye, where in reality both eyes are functional; his enemies wouldn't suspect that a guy with two normal eyes might be Rum.
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Re: Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby Swagnarok » October 31st, 2016, 10:33 pm

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Ryan Jackson: African-American CIA agent and director of CIA operations in Japan involving the Black Organisation. He was once good friends with Ethan Hondou, who taught him how to charge at a gunman without getting hit. He was an army chaplain who served in Iraq, seeing combat on numerous occasions, most notably during the Second Battle of Fallujah. He's been a lifelong resident of Metairie, LA, and he's married with several children. He graduated from Loyola University Maryland. His favorite saying is, "It is sometimes necessary to lie damnably in the interests of the nation."
Elena and Atsushi Miyano: Faked their deaths and now secretly lead a "White Organisation" against the Men in Black. Parents of Akemi, Shiho, and Satoshi Miyano.
ELXR-0666: A drug developed by the BO that can revive the dead, the ultimate aim of their research and development of APTX-4869.
Nancy Akechi: Ran Mouri, revived by ELXR-0666 and then shrunken to a 7/8 year old by APTX-4869. Lives with Conan and her two parents, who are unaware of her true identity. Is the sixth member of the "Detective Boys".
Cognac: Shinichi Kudo made a bargain with Elena Miyano: Join the BO in exchange for the drug that could revive Ran from the dead. He became a Black Crow under the codename Cognac, specialising in using his detective skills to investigate matters important to the Organisation.
Antichrist: An ancient hominid species very closely related to Homo Sapiens. They were biologically indistinguishable from human beings, except for the presence of the "Altar Organ", an internal bodily organ that allowed them to replace one of their other body parts, even the brain, with a corresponding one belonging to another person upon consuming said replacement body part. This species went extinct long ago, but they are relevant to the BO's plans today.
Yoko Okino: Boss of the Black Organisation upon the death of Korn, who in turn succeeded Pisco. Codename: Cabernet Sauvignon. Her mother was a member of the BO Council, and she raised her daughter to worship the Ancient Canaanite gods. Yoko's philosophy was also shaped by something that she witnessed as a child, the bullying of one of her classmates that led to suicide. She represents the "young blood" of the Organisation, and her religious fervour sets her apart from the Council, which consists of elderly and middle-aged bureaucrats and businessmen. She sees them as heretics.
Mezcal: Biochemist who assumed control of the APTX-4869 project upon Sherry's defection. He joined the project approximately one year before the events of Episodes 128-129 and the two of them worked closely in developing the drug.
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Re: Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby MeiTanteixX » November 1st, 2016, 4:00 am

Swagnarok wrote:Another possibility is, of course, that Rum himself is responsible for the rumour that he has a glass eye, where in reality both eyes are functional; his enemies wouldn't suspect that a guy with two normal eyes might be Rum.

But that logic only works if Rum takes it for granted that there's a leak in the BO. That's not something they would casually leave be to the point that they have to rely on such cheap tricks.
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Re: Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby Spimer » November 1st, 2016, 6:33 am

@Swagnarok: please avoid double posting. You have an "edit" button to edit your first post and combine it with the second post's text. Then delete the extra post.

Besides "glass eye" is a nickname, the actual material is medical grade plastic acrylic with a few exceptions made of cryolite glass.

These prothesis do not provide vision, though.

And I agree with meiTanteixX that I fail to see the need for RUM to spread rumors like that: maybe unlike Gin, he doesn't feel the need to appeal to his existance and hardly is seen by anyone hence the conflicting descriptions (which could be underlings of his pretending to be him).

Besides, your "theory" only offers that rumor as evidence: I think it's a bit too stretched to call it "theory", I'd rather name it "hypothesis" since there's a lack of factual proof to prove it: theories are backed up by evidence or facts, after all.
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Re: Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby Swagnarok » November 1st, 2016, 9:00 am

Spimer wrote:@Swagnarok: please avoid double posting. You have an "edit" button to edit your first post and combine it with the second post's text. Then delete the extra post.

Besides "glass eye" is a nickname, the actual material is medical grade plastic acrylic with a few exceptions made of cryolite glass.

Yes, I am aware of this.

These prothesis do not provide vision, though.

Correct. What I'm saying is that Rum has one normal eye and one fake eye. However, he doesn't always use the same fake eye.

And I agree with meiTanteixX that I fail to see the need for RUM to spread rumors like that: maybe unlike Gin, he doesn't feel the need to appeal to his existance and hardly is seen by anyone hence the conflicting descriptions (which could be underlings of his pretending to be him).

If general knowledge of the glass eye was not an intentional trick by Rum, and if he only appeared through three subordinates pretending to be him, why would they all be sporting glass eyes?

Besides, your "theory" only offers that rumor as evidence: I think it's a bit too stretched to call it "theory", I'd rather name it "hypothesis" since there's a lack of factual proof to prove it: theories are backed up by evidence or facts, after all.


Eh, I'm using the word "theory" loosely here.
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Yoshiteru Nichimura: Japanese-American CIA agent, Hidemi's colleague and former boyfriend. Known among the ranks of the CIA as "Grim Reaper", from his skull-like face and his deadly short-range combat skills. He has a very good fast draw and he's very highly proficient in the Israeli martial art form called Krav Maga. However, he has no talent as a sniper, and he doesn't bother trying to be one.
Ryan Jackson: African-American CIA agent and director of CIA operations in Japan involving the Black Organisation. He was once good friends with Ethan Hondou, who taught him how to charge at a gunman without getting hit. He was an army chaplain who served in Iraq, seeing combat on numerous occasions, most notably during the Second Battle of Fallujah. He's been a lifelong resident of Metairie, LA, and he's married with several children. He graduated from Loyola University Maryland. His favorite saying is, "It is sometimes necessary to lie damnably in the interests of the nation."
Elena and Atsushi Miyano: Faked their deaths and now secretly lead a "White Organisation" against the Men in Black. Parents of Akemi, Shiho, and Satoshi Miyano.
ELXR-0666: A drug developed by the BO that can revive the dead, the ultimate aim of their research and development of APTX-4869.
Nancy Akechi: Ran Mouri, revived by ELXR-0666 and then shrunken to a 7/8 year old by APTX-4869. Lives with Conan and her two parents, who are unaware of her true identity. Is the sixth member of the "Detective Boys".
Cognac: Shinichi Kudo made a bargain with Elena Miyano: Join the BO in exchange for the drug that could revive Ran from the dead. He became a Black Crow under the codename Cognac, specialising in using his detective skills to investigate matters important to the Organisation.
Antichrist: An ancient hominid species very closely related to Homo Sapiens. They were biologically indistinguishable from human beings, except for the presence of the "Altar Organ", an internal bodily organ that allowed them to replace one of their other body parts, even the brain, with a corresponding one belonging to another person upon consuming said replacement body part. This species went extinct long ago, but they are relevant to the BO's plans today.
Yoko Okino: Boss of the Black Organisation upon the death of Korn, who in turn succeeded Pisco. Codename: Cabernet Sauvignon. Her mother was a member of the BO Council, and she raised her daughter to worship the Ancient Canaanite gods. Yoko's philosophy was also shaped by something that she witnessed as a child, the bullying of one of her classmates that led to suicide. She represents the "young blood" of the Organisation, and her religious fervour sets her apart from the Council, which consists of elderly and middle-aged bureaucrats and businessmen. She sees them as heretics.
Mezcal: Biochemist who assumed control of the APTX-4869 project upon Sherry's defection. He joined the project approximately one year before the events of Episodes 128-129 and the two of them worked closely in developing the drug.
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Re: Theory on Rum's Glass Eye

Postby Swagnarok » November 1st, 2016, 9:17 am

MeiTanteixX wrote:
Swagnarok wrote:Another possibility is, of course, that Rum himself is responsible for the rumour that he has a glass eye, where in reality both eyes are functional; his enemies wouldn't suspect that a guy with two normal eyes might be Rum.

But that logic only works if Rum takes it for granted that there's a leak in the BO. That's not something they would casually leave be to the point that they have to rely on such cheap tricks.


Rum's enemies don't necessarily have to be outside of the Organisation. Don't forget that Pisco was killed by Gin, Irish was killed by Gin (in movie 13, which I admit isn't canon), Gin was on the verge of killing Vodka once, Gin has attempted to kill Vermouth once, Vermouth pointed a gun at Bourbon, etc. In short, the Black Crows can't really trust each other; it's possible that somebody within the Organisation might hate Rum, or they might seek to take him out in some kind of bid to make his job opening available.
Conan got this tidbit on Rum from former BO agent Sherry, and I doubt that the CIA/FBI knows about the glass eye (I might not be up to date on this). On the other hand, it'd seem that Rum's existence is common knowledge within the BO.
It's also possible that Rum is thinking ahead and making himself a bit more secure in the event of a leak by spreading that rumour. After all, there's been a heck of a lot of those (Shuichi Akai being confirmed, with the possibility of Sherry singing like a canary to the feds, with the remote possibility of Kir being a mole, and with Ethan Hondou and Scotch also being confirmed moles).
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Character key for my DC stories:
Yoshiteru Nichimura: Japanese-American CIA agent, Hidemi's colleague and former boyfriend. Known among the ranks of the CIA as "Grim Reaper", from his skull-like face and his deadly short-range combat skills. He has a very good fast draw and he's very highly proficient in the Israeli martial art form called Krav Maga. However, he has no talent as a sniper, and he doesn't bother trying to be one.
Ryan Jackson: African-American CIA agent and director of CIA operations in Japan involving the Black Organisation. He was once good friends with Ethan Hondou, who taught him how to charge at a gunman without getting hit. He was an army chaplain who served in Iraq, seeing combat on numerous occasions, most notably during the Second Battle of Fallujah. He's been a lifelong resident of Metairie, LA, and he's married with several children. He graduated from Loyola University Maryland. His favorite saying is, "It is sometimes necessary to lie damnably in the interests of the nation."
Elena and Atsushi Miyano: Faked their deaths and now secretly lead a "White Organisation" against the Men in Black. Parents of Akemi, Shiho, and Satoshi Miyano.
ELXR-0666: A drug developed by the BO that can revive the dead, the ultimate aim of their research and development of APTX-4869.
Nancy Akechi: Ran Mouri, revived by ELXR-0666 and then shrunken to a 7/8 year old by APTX-4869. Lives with Conan and her two parents, who are unaware of her true identity. Is the sixth member of the "Detective Boys".
Cognac: Shinichi Kudo made a bargain with Elena Miyano: Join the BO in exchange for the drug that could revive Ran from the dead. He became a Black Crow under the codename Cognac, specialising in using his detective skills to investigate matters important to the Organisation.
Antichrist: An ancient hominid species very closely related to Homo Sapiens. They were biologically indistinguishable from human beings, except for the presence of the "Altar Organ", an internal bodily organ that allowed them to replace one of their other body parts, even the brain, with a corresponding one belonging to another person upon consuming said replacement body part. This species went extinct long ago, but they are relevant to the BO's plans today.
Yoko Okino: Boss of the Black Organisation upon the death of Korn, who in turn succeeded Pisco. Codename: Cabernet Sauvignon. Her mother was a member of the BO Council, and she raised her daughter to worship the Ancient Canaanite gods. Yoko's philosophy was also shaped by something that she witnessed as a child, the bullying of one of her classmates that led to suicide. She represents the "young blood" of the Organisation, and her religious fervour sets her apart from the Council, which consists of elderly and middle-aged bureaucrats and businessmen. She sees them as heretics.
Mezcal: Biochemist who assumed control of the APTX-4869 project upon Sherry's defection. He joined the project approximately one year before the events of Episodes 128-129 and the two of them worked closely in developing the drug.

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