Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

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Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby kkuuddoo » October 1st, 2016, 12:56 am

Issues with Trust ( specifically about Akai and Conan )

This is my first topic post ever, I hope it is where it should be. I thought A lot about doing it and finally it's here

I wont go into much detail, but many of us talked here in the forums and in the C-box about how Akai and Conan don't share much with each other.

Since recently we found out that Akai and shinichi met 10 years ago, and he just remembered that however there is a lot on my mind on why they, even though planed together the following :
1- Rina return to BO
2- Faking Akai's death
3- Making amuro believe that Okiya is NOT Akai for once
( Since amuro still doubts it, after seeing Okiya write with his left )

In my opinion, they worked together very well, however they still seem to not share much with each other, such:

1- Conan does NOT want Akai to know he is Shinichi ( Despite Okiya figuring it out )
2- Akai doesn't Want to tell Conan about his father unless he reveals his identity
3- Akai never shared the Rum information with Conan
( Conan was listening through wiretap or something)
4- They both went on their own way before figuring out the R U Mascara is RUM ASACA


So why don't they share information ? I wonder !

Is anything going to change after Conan remembering the 10 years ago meeting with the Akai's ? or is it going to be the same

Any Thoughts ?
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby k11chi » October 1st, 2016, 1:35 am

When did Akai ever share anything with the FBI and he's been longer with them than Conan. They don't because that's just who they are.
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby eros1607 » October 1st, 2016, 3:27 am

Because Gosho can make the story longer by that way. Conan even doesn't tell Haibara that Amuro is a spy to clear her fear.
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby Mouti » October 1st, 2016, 4:55 am

there's no trust issue, there's comminication issue, people don't talk with each other in DC.
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby k11chi » October 1st, 2016, 5:48 am

Mouti wrote:there's no trust issue, there's comminication issue, people don't talk with each other in DC.

Those are the same thing most of the time.
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby KaitoRizu » October 1st, 2016, 6:18 am

kkuuddoo wrote:1- Conan does NOT want Akai to know he is Shinichi ( Despite Okiya figuring it out )

Spoiler:
maybe he's afraid that Akai would get angry if he realized that he's the same kid who called him a clown :P


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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby ATEM » October 1st, 2016, 6:37 am

I still believe it has nothing to do with trust ,it's just to extend the series ,

The FBI and conan aren't the same case here telling jodie such details won't help him from as she will not be able to figure more than he has already did from his prespectives but conan is not he believes that conan can figure out more and they will end up sharing thier deductions in some point afterwards

Last I think akai and conan are already aware that they are spying on each other ,conan can't spy that easily on shuu without him recogonizing it .
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby Tantei San » October 1st, 2016, 1:41 pm

Well to think .! Not much time(chapters) have gone by since the they both found about RUM and besides Fillers and story making needs a wide area of work to make it to the point. Now, that he knows that Masumi is Shuuichi's sister I am pretty sure they will discuss regarding that as well as being RUM because as said shinichi knows about him so he will confront them together?Or Not! that's different but yup the story will take a huge twist from now and let's see how things work out.
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Re: Issues with Trust ( Conan & Akai )

Postby PhantomWriter » December 28th, 2016, 8:06 pm

Raising the post from the dead for a comment.

Both of them are very prone to not trusting anybody with everything. It's an attempt to prevent a problem with putting all of your secrets into one basket, so to speak. If you do so and that one person gets compromised, well...

With regard to the whole refusal to discuss his family until Conan comes clean about the specifics of his poisoning and identity, I can see it as a sense of wanting some kind of reciprocity if he does end up explaining the details. Your dad getting murdered by a crime syndicate you are hunting after is kind of personal and not something you share with anybody unless necessary, even if they are trusted. Same goes with Kudo's poisoning. Shuichi ribs him once when he witnessed the voice changer, to show that he figured things out, but otherwise avoids bringing it up.

As for them both researching Rum/Asaca separately, I think that has more to do with FBI procedure. To my knowledge, the FBI try to avoid including civilians during investigations if they can help it.
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Postby Random Reader » March 4th, 2017, 3:18 am

I think it's a problem with almost all the characters in this manga.

Mary, Akai, Sera, Conan and Haibara have all been guilty of it at some point.

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