Discussion thread: Detective Conan 969-971

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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 969-971

Postby Kor » September 2nd, 2016, 5:26 am

Jesse Sravya wrote:I'm just super excited. when is manga 972 releasing? ;D


Officially released in Japan on September 14th. We might get spoilers a few days before that.
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Postby MrDetective » September 2nd, 2016, 5:58 am

Do we all agree this was the silliest dying message of the entire series ?
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Postby DCUniverseAficionado » September 2nd, 2016, 7:32 am

MrDetective wrote:Do we all agree this was the silliest dying message of the entire series ?


Explain, please.
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Postby Viper » September 2nd, 2016, 7:38 am

MrDetective wrote:Do we all agree this was the silliest dying message of the entire series ?

I do, but you have to understand the victim, it's hard to think of a good message when your chloroform-induced sleep is interrupted by someone strangling you.
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Re: Discussion thread: Detective Conan 969-971

Postby MoonRaven » September 2nd, 2016, 9:50 am

I think the dying message was brilliant!
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Postby k11chi » September 2nd, 2016, 10:40 am

It was clever as it works better in a graphic novel format and Gosho uses that to his strengths pretty well. If it had been a bunch of dialogue trying to explain it I think it would have seemed pretty winged and silly.

I can guess some old case dying messages will seems sillier simply because of the bad scan quality, the visual clues are hard to pick up.
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Postby Vinnie » September 2nd, 2016, 12:25 pm

Such a good case.

Ohh, England? I can almost smell "MI6" :))))) (related to Mary) ! I'm ready for a flashback.
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Postby estuputri » September 3rd, 2016, 9:03 am

Spoiler:
yeyy! Finally we'll go back to ten years ago!
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Postby Miliolina » September 3rd, 2016, 1:19 pm

I wonder why Conan remembers the people saying these exact words back then.

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Shuichi: "Who are you?"
Masumi: "A Wizard!"
Mary(?): "Possessed by a shinigami."
???: "It's scary...like being possessed by something."

If he can remember them 10 years later...are these words related to him?

The first scenario I thought of was another murder or a series of murder ("Possessed by a shinigami."/"It's scary...like being possessed by something.") It would make sense since Shinichi/Conan attracts murderers, hence is possessed by a shinigami. The "scary"-Part could also refer to the culprit or the victim...
Shinichi solves the case and explains the trick behind it like "A Wizard!" and impresses everyone since he is still a child ("Who are you?")

But that would be too obvious, right? I mean, that would mean he solves the case before Mary/Shuichi does.


Anyways, I'm very excited and can't wait ;D ;D
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Postby Swagnarok » September 3rd, 2016, 1:24 pm

If Masumi's from England, does that mean there may be a connection between her and Elena (who is also from England)?
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Postby k11chi » September 3rd, 2016, 1:27 pm

Miliolina wrote:I wonder why Conan remembers the people saying these exact words back then.

Spoiler:
Shuichi: "Who are you?"
Masumi: "A Wizard!"
Mary(?): "Possessed by a shinigami."
???: "It's scary...like being possessed by something."

If he can remember them 10 years later...are these words related to him?

The first scenario I thought of was another murder or a series of murder ("Possessed by a shinigami."/"It's scary...like being possessed by something.") It would make sense since Shinichi/Conan attracts murderers, hence is possessed by a shinigami. The "scary"-Part could also refer to the culprit or the victim...
Shinichi solves the case and explains the trick behind it like "A Wizard!" and impresses everyone since he is still a child ("Who are you?")

But that would be too obvious, right? I mean, that would mean he solves the case before Mary/Shuichi does.


Anyways, I'm very excited and can't wait ;D ;D

Well it's the most possible scenario but it could be related to someone he was with back then, we'll see. Atleast the Wizard should Now be Conan if it wasn't in the past.
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Postby MeiTanteixX » September 3rd, 2016, 1:49 pm

Swagnarok wrote:If Masumi's from England, does that mean there may be a connection between her and Elena (who is also from England)?

well...she is kind of her aunt, so that should be enough of a connection. Sera probably never met her though.
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Postby Swagnarok » September 3rd, 2016, 2:06 pm

MeiTanteixX wrote:
Swagnarok wrote:If Masumi's from England, does that mean there may be a connection between her and Elena (who is also from England)?

well...she is kind of her aunt, so that should be enough of a connection. Sera probably never met her though.


I'm not so sure that Mary is Masumi's mother. The only evidence for this is whenever she referred to Mary as "mama". When you really think about it, though, this is a very unusual thing for a girl who is nearly an adult to call her mother. Most people would simply say "Mom" (or, if you're from the UK, "Mum"). Mama implies an unusually high degree of attachment, and to my knowledge is normally used by adults only in rural parts of the United States or perhaps among members of the Black-American community.
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Postby Miliolina » September 3rd, 2016, 2:12 pm

Swagnarok wrote:
I'm not so sure that Mary is Masumi's mother. The only evidence for this is whenever she referred to Mary as "mama". When you really think about it, though, this is a very unusual thing for a girl who is nearly an adult to call her mother. Most people would simply say "Mom" (or, if you're from the UK, "Mum"). Mama implies an unusually high degree of attachment, and to my knowledge is normally used by adults only in rural parts of the United States or perhaps among members of the Black-American community.
That's just my opinion though.



I also think there is more to that than meets the eye.
But "Mama" is actually a very common appellation for mother in Europe. Especially in German-speaking areas and the Netherlands.
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Postby jimmy_kud0_tv2 » September 3rd, 2016, 9:53 pm

Swagnarok wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
Swagnarok wrote:If Masumi's from England, does that mean there may be a connection between her and Elena (who is also from England)?

well...she is kind of her aunt, so that should be enough of a connection. Sera probably never met her though.


I'm not so sure that Mary is Masumi's mother. The only evidence for this is whenever she referred to Mary as "mama". When you really think about it, though, this is a very unusual thing for a girl who is nearly an adult to call her mother. Most people would simply say "Mom" (or, if you're from the UK, "Mum"). Mama implies an unusually high degree of attachment, and to my knowledge is normally used by adults only in rural parts of the United States or perhaps among members of the Black-American community.
That's just my opinion though.


When Masumi was introduced, she was referring to Kogoro as Ran's "papa", so its a bit more safe to assume that she is referring to Mary as her mother. Also its normal for a japanese speaker to use, as japanese does have a decent amount of english loan words now. As "mama" was written in Japanese katakana, rather than english like other words (ex: Case Closed, Rum, ect. ), its more than likely just that Gosho is having her use that word on preference for that character.
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