Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 963-965
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The Crow Society never existed: that was a mistranslation of the name Karasuma Renya. Unless you mean the BO.
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Gosho really needs to start linking seemingly irrivant plots riddles to the main BO plot. In a long overall investigation case the readers and Conan put together.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
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Normal cases are the bread and butter of a procedural crime series though. DC is just not a manga where everything revolves around the main plot. Also, what would having Nanatsu no Ko play in the music box here achieve? They both already know its meaning as the phone number. To make them think about the BO again? No need for the song to just randomly play in the music box, Conan and Haibara don't really need a cue to think about the BO, they often do it without one. To foreshadow that the next case is a BO case? Okay, would be cool, but just having the next case be a BO case without the song playing wouldn't make much of a difference. It's not like Nanatsu no Ko still offers any mystery to the reader or Conan & Haibara, that was solved ages ago.ThatLee4 wrote:Gosho really needs to start linking seemingly irrivant plots riddles to the main BO plot. In a long overall investigation case the readers and Conan put together.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
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Serinox wrote:Normal cases are the bread and butter of a procedural crime series though. DC is just not a manga where everything revolves around the main plot. Also, what would having Nanatsu no Ko play in the music box here achieve? They both already know its meaning as the phone number. To make them think about the BO again? No need for the song to just randomly play in the music box, Conan and Haibara don't really need a cue to think about the BO, they often do it without one. To foreshadow that the next case is a BO case? Okay, would be cool, but just having the next case be a BO case without the song playing wouldn't make much of a difference. It's not like Nanatsu no Ko still offers any mystery to the reader or Conan & Haibara, that was solved ages ago.ThatLee4 wrote:Gosho really needs to start linking seemingly irrivant plots riddles to the main BO plot. In a long overall investigation case the readers and Conan put together.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
I think Nanatsu no Ko could serve as a way to reveal "Subaru" as Kid, since as Akai would naturally react to that tone whereas Kid wouldn't really.
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Hm, but the thing is, the way the case is goign atm, Kid should be demasked before the box is opened or he will open it after already having revealed himself. Also, Akai would try to hide his reaction in front of Haibara anyway, not that I think there'd be a strong reaction anyway, it wouldn't also make him jump or anything.ShinRan4ver wrote:I think Nanatsu no Ko could serve as a way to reveal "Subaru" as Kid, since as Akai would naturally react to that tone whereas Kid wouldn't really.Serinox wrote:Normal cases are the bread and butter of a procedural crime series though. DC is just not a manga where everything revolves around the main plot. Also, what would having Nanatsu no Ko play in the music box here achieve? They both already know its meaning as the phone number. To make them think about the BO again? No need for the song to just randomly play in the music box, Conan and Haibara don't really need a cue to think about the BO, they often do it without one. To foreshadow that the next case is a BO case? Okay, would be cool, but just having the next case be a BO case without the song playing wouldn't make much of a difference. It's not like Nanatsu no Ko still offers any mystery to the reader or Conan & Haibara, that was solved ages ago.ThatLee4 wrote:Gosho really needs to start linking seemingly irrivant plots riddles to the main BO plot. In a long overall investigation case the readers and Conan put together.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
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The entire premise of the story is Conan solving cases and sometimes coming across to clues to the BO. He's a detective so the series does need normal cases completely unrelated to the cast of characters. The writing doesn't get affected by continuity to the rest of the series, you can tell when the writing sucks and when it doesn't with common sense and actually reading the files.ThatLee4 wrote:Gosho really needs to start linking seemingly irrivant plots riddles to the main BO plot. In a long overall investigation case the readers and Conan put together.
It would had been beautiful if the tine was the 7 crows tune was used in this. Which then went on to give Conan and Ai a small hint to why the BO used it and their main plan with forshadowing once revealed fully.
This would make it a true detective manga.
Rather than just random cases (like 85% of cases that could be in any order really) just sometime indepthly can be solved by research and forshadowing. Rather than a bizzar way to use something and firguring out who had a dumb grudge to kill someone.
This make Gosho look a poor writer. Which he is not.
But he could tie in wgat it looked like he was doing with the RUM investigation with the cases around his mystery like how descrpitions can be misleading.
In this case Nanatsu no ko is nothing more than the ringtone that sounds when you type the boss's number in. It has no actual plot relevance other than figuring out the number.
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You guys are missing my point with the use of Nanatsu no Ko. We know it is the dialtone for the BO.
But other mysteries where about if the meaning of the song is linked to the BO plan. Like with the number 7 and the leader etc. We dontbeven know what the orgs real name is.
But maybe this is nothing. Just another random seperate pont Gosho made?
All im saying is Gosho drags out the story with like 8% plot for the whole series most mystries are not as intersting as they could be. It is mostly misdirection of similar characters, with us figuring out who is who being his fortè writing style. Which was good in the Vermont arch. But now is cheesy.
As a mystery/detective manga i expect better improvements for a reader to keep the story strong. Not just random murders dramas and romance links.
Switch it up a bit. Have some murders prevented. Have code breaking (not just the bait Kanji number thing). Hijackings, deciet. And a higher sense of danger.
Coz to many people complain the manga is written badly as we know how good Gosho can be. But he has made this into a very basic detective manga. For want of longevity
But other mysteries where about if the meaning of the song is linked to the BO plan. Like with the number 7 and the leader etc. We dontbeven know what the orgs real name is.
But maybe this is nothing. Just another random seperate pont Gosho made?
All im saying is Gosho drags out the story with like 8% plot for the whole series most mystries are not as intersting as they could be. It is mostly misdirection of similar characters, with us figuring out who is who being his fortè writing style. Which was good in the Vermont arch. But now is cheesy.
As a mystery/detective manga i expect better improvements for a reader to keep the story strong. Not just random murders dramas and romance links.
Switch it up a bit. Have some murders prevented. Have code breaking (not just the bait Kanji number thing). Hijackings, deciet. And a higher sense of danger.
Coz to many people complain the manga is written badly as we know how good Gosho can be. But he has made this into a very basic detective manga. For want of longevity
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“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
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Good searching! I pointed Agasa as the sole suspect plausible: Okiya were not there and is too suspicious, Ran's legs are the same in the expert's opinion, Sonoko was used in his last appearence by Kid, Kogoro immediately stopped his coughs and Ai is too small.
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i think kid knocked subaru in shinichi house. He disguise oneself as subaru. The paper can find with smell nikujaga beetween books. Inside karakuri box are diary.
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“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
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People seems to forget how many times we had plot related clues during DB cases.As long as it's not about Naeko/Chiba I'm ok with a DB case.
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