DCUniverseAficionado wrote:By the time Scarlet Showdown was resolved, what did his character become to you? Just how much potential was wasted, in your eyes?
After Scarlet Showdown, at this point, does it matter if he still holds a grudge once he learns the truth, or lets it go? To you, this entire detour the story has taken must've been seven-eight years worth of, "Well, that was predictable and pointless." You once posted Gosho had become too predictable for you to actually get angry, right?
If he's just plain "exhausting," now, what's the difference, now? Just "more exhausting?" How much is required for it to really matter?
Why is it that almost each and every time you reply to my posts, you always address my character and assume things about me? (not only me, mind you. You've been doing this with some other people too). Wanna talk about exhausting? THIS is exhausting. You may have not been aware you're constantly doing this (giving you the benefit of the doubt here), but it's worth pointing out cause this has been quite a trend for you.
I'm not really the issue here (here being, a discussion thread in a forum about a Japanese comic book), but your post seems to suggest that I sort of am. Your post is forcing me to defend myself, but there should be no reason for me to defend my "self" in a discussion about a Japanese comic book. That sort of situation never needs to occur. There's also not much here to actually respond to, because at the very best, it's just accusatory of... something. It's also diverging from what I originally wrote and goes to unrelated areas such as the Scarlet Showdown, and wasted potential, and if Gosho had become too predictable for me, and what do those things even have to do with what I wrote? (I like the "angry" part. That one really highlights the ad hominem). This is also a bit of a recurring thing you've been doing - derailing your own posts from the actual matter and make arguments go to several different lines that are redundant and unnecessary.
I merely pointed out that the outcome you're predicting for Amuro (being still angry at Akai even after he learns the truth), is undesirable because it'd just harm his character even more and how we perceive it. Why you decided to go from this to... all of these other things in your post? No clue. (Or is it because of my added snark about Amuro already not being such a glamorous character anyway?)
I'm also not so sure what your post is trying to achieve. Is it trying to change my mind? To show me that what I wrote is incorrect? Again, not sure here.
Some people may say negative things about the series. They aren't the issue, their mindsets aren't the issue, their emotions aren't the issue, nothing of their personality is the issue. So you should never try to direct your thoughts at such elements, and don't try to make them the issue. The only real "issue" in a discussion is what they write and their arguments. (referring to the common folk here, not to intentional trouble makers)
Basically, tackle the position and arguments of people, not the people themselves.
As for what there is to sort of reply to...
Hating on Akai in such circumstance is silly and petty. If Gosho wants Amuro to seem silly and petty, sure go with that outcome. Otherwise... not really a good approach to a compelling conflict readers can get behind.
I don't think Akai's really responsible here to anything. That's exactly what makes this misunderstanding dumb on a narrative level. Amuro's been hating Akai wrongfully. Akai was never at fault, so Amuro's entire "journey" so far has been unjustified by the very text of the manga.
Also, no, grudges aren't universally based on an immature ability to overcome and let go of something. If I kill someone's entire family and they hold a grudge against me, it seems like a perfectly justified grudge. Some grudges may be silly, but then it's just a case by case basis. In the case of "Amuro holding a grudge against Akai that Akai failed to save Scotch who killed himself even though Akai tried to stop him", well... that grudge is silly, hence it'd make Amuro seem silly, hence this doesn't seem like a desirable outcome.
There is no real parallel between Ai's thing and Amuro's thing. For once, the circumstances are completely different, and the narratives themselves are different too.
At the end of the day, though, I don't think the outcome you're describing will happen. Sure, Amuro might not believe Akai at first, but I doubt he's going to shift his resentment to the form you're describing.
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:If he's just plain "exhausting," now, what's the difference, now? Just "more exhausting?" How much is required for it to really matter?
Who said it doesn't matter already? Amuro is a character that has yet to contribute much (if anything at all) to the series, and the entire story arc that focused on his character was overly long, redundant and really sort of pointless.
But here's the thing, his character can always get worse.