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黒づくめの組織内
公安のスパイがバレて、射殺される男
撃ったのは赤井、止められなかった安室……

FILE954 裏切りの制裁

バーボンは運転中、考え事をしていて右折すべき交差点を通り過ぎてしまう
とある大物に接近し、「ソレ」が公になる前に処分しろという指示を受けるが……

コナン・蘭・園子・沖矢が留守中の工藤家の掃除
園子は世良も誘ったが、別のホテルに移動するため来なかった
沖矢は園子たちに、世良の周りに変わった人がいなかったか尋ねる
謎の凄腕SP・「ASACA」を探しているのだが、園子たちは見ていない様子
言われて園子は別の話を始める
ロックミュージシャン・波土禄道(はど ろくみち)が
17年越しに発表する新曲のタイトルが「ASACA」
RUMがらみだ!と察したコナンと沖矢は
園子たちが禄道ライブの前日リハーサルを見学に行くというので同行することに

しかし、会場に行ってみたものの
まだ歌詞が完成してないので人を入れないよう言われている、と
コナンたちはマネージャーに止められる
バックバンドやスタッフの人たちも出払っててステージは留守
契約レコード会社の社長はこのライブで禄道は引退するという
何度も止めたが禄道の意志は固く、明日の本番で公表するつもりだとか
潜入していた悪徳記者が引っかき回しに来るが
マネージャーが外で作業中のスタッフにつまみ出させる
見られないんじゃ仕方ない、そこまで熱心なファンでもないし、と
園子たちが帰ろうとすると、安室が梓と一緒に現れる
ポアロで安室が禄道のファンだと言う話を園子にしたら
前日リハの見学手配をしてくれたとのこと、梓もついてきた
ファンの大人3人を残して、園子たちはコナンを連れて帰ろうとする
そこでコナンは梓にギター上手だよね、と話をすると、梓は普通に認める
梓はバンドの件ではギターに触ったこともないと言っていたが
JKに混じるのが恥ずかしかったから、とごまかす
それを見てコナンは梓=ベルモットと判断
コナンは沖矢=赤井と知っているので
梓にバレたら殺される、と沖矢に耳打ちする

ところが、撤退の機会は別の理由で潰される
消防署員が設備の検査をしに客席のドアを開けると
禄道の首つり死体がステージ上にぶら下がっている
■宙高く吊るされたミュージシャン。この不可思議な状況は、一体……!?
Initial translations by bash7353 from the cbox:
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bash7353: Sonoko talks about a musician called Hodo Rokumichi that is releasing a new song called "ASAKA" which makes Conan and Okiya think it's a song about Rum. Then they all go to that guy's live rehearsal, but then it looks like it is cancelled. When they wanna go home, Amuro and Azusa show up. Conan notices that Azusa can play guitar quite well, but back in the girl band case she didn't touch the instrument at all, so he concludes she's actually Vermouth in disguise.
bash7353: He whispers into Okiya's ears that Azusa can't learn he's Akai, or he'll be killed. Then it turns out Hodo Rokumichi was found dead.
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Kor wrote:
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bash7353: Conan whispers into Okiya's ears that Azusa can't learn he's Akai, or he'll be killed.
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Not that Hidemi/Rena/Kir will be killed? ???
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Translation of text spoilers:
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A PSB spy inside of the BO is found out... And a man is shot dead. Akai shot the man and Amuro couldn't stop Akai from doing so...

File 954: The punishment of betrayal

Bourbon is driving along the city and seems to be lost in thoughts as he skips a crossroad where he wanted to turn right. He approaches something important, and is given orders to dispose of "it" before it goes public...

Conan, Ran, Sonoko and Okiya are cleansing up the Kudo house. Sonoko admits that she invited Sera to join them but couldn't because she had to move to a different hotel. Okiya asks the 3 of them about wheter there's "someone odd" around Sera. He's looking for the mysterious go-getter SP "ASACA" but it'd seem that Sonoko and Ran haven't seen anyone who stood out around Sera.

When Okiya brings out the name Sonoko talks about another topic: the rock musician Hado Rokumichi has announced a new song after 17 years. The title's "ASACA".
This has to be related to RUM! Conan and Okiya feel that so they agree to join Sonoko and Ran to go see a reharsal before Rokumichi does the live.

However, when they reach the hall they and others are halted by the manager who argues that the song lyrics aren't completed yet so no-one can come in.
The backband and the staff have all left and the stage's empty.

The president of the record company with whom they've signed an agreement has tried many times to convince Rokumichi not to retire after this live but Rokumichi hasn't changed his mind: he plans to announce it during tomorrow's live. An unscrupulous reporter who's sneaked into hall has come to rummage but the manager has kicked them out with the helpf the staff working on the outside.

Sonoko says that if they can't see the reharsal then there's nothing they can do: not like they are passionate fans either. Just as she suggests that they go back Amuro and Azusa show up together. Amuro had told Sonoko he's a fan of Rokumichi at the Poirot and that Sonoko had arranged to come see this reharsal of the day before the live: Azusa had decided to come along as well.

Sonoko and Ran are about to go back with Conan and leave the 3 adult fans there: Conan tells Azusa that she's good at playing the guitar and Azusa admits it without doubting. Conan then says that back when the girl band case Azusa had said that she'd never played the guitar: Azusa argues that she thought it was embarassing to try to play together with high school girls.

Upon hearing that Conan decides that "Azusa" must be Vermouth: Conan knows that Okiya's Akai so if Azusa found out Akai would be killed. He warns Okiya by whispering into the ear about Vermouth.

But then their reason to leave the scene is crushed by another reason: some firefigthers come to inspect the equipment and, when they open the door of the audience's seats, Rokumichi's hanged corpse is found hanging over the stage.

Side-note: the musician hanged high in the air. What's the explanation for this mysterious situation...!?
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Spimer wrote:Translation of text spoilers:
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A PSB spy inside of the BO is found out... And a man is shot dead. Akai shot the man and Amuro couldn't stop Akai from doing so...

File 954: The punishment of betrayal

Bourbon is driving along the city and seems to be lost in thoughts as he skips a crossroad where he wanted to turn right. He approaches something important, and is given orders to dispose of "it" before it goes public...

Conan, Ran, Sonoko and Okiya are cleansing up the Kudo house. Sonoko admits that she invited Sera to join them but couldn't because she had to move to a different hotel. Okiya asks the 3 of them about wheter there's "someone odd" around Sera. He's looking for the mysterious go-getter SP "ASACA" but it'd seem that Sonoko and Ran haven't seen anyone who stood out around Sera.

When Okiya brings out the name Sonoko talks about another topic: the rock musician Hado Rokumichi has announced a new song after 17 years. The title's "ASACA".
This has to be related to RUM! Conan and Okiya feel that so they agree to join Sonoko and Ran to go see a reharsal before Rokumichi does the live.

However, when they reach the hall they and others are halted by the manager who argues that the song lyrics aren't completed yet so no-one can come in.
The backband and the staff have all left and the stage's empty.

The president of the record company with whom they've signed an agreement has tried many times to convince Rokumichi not to retire after this live but Rokumichi hasn't changed his mind: he plans to announce it during tomorrow's live. An unscrupulous reporter who's sneaked into hall has come to rummage but the manager has kicked them out with the helpf the staff working on the outside.

Sonoko says that if they can't see the reharsal then there's nothing they can do: not like they are passionate fans either. Just as she suggests that they go back Amuro and Azusa show up together. Amuro had told Sonoko he's a fan of Rokumichi at the Poirot and that Sonoko had arranged to come see this reharsal of the day before the live: Azusa had decided to come along as well.

Sonoko and Ran are about to go back with Conan and leave the 3 adult fans there: Conan tells Azusa that she's good at playing the guitar and Azusa admits it without doubting. Conan then says that back when the girl band case Azusa had said that she'd never played the guitar: Azusa argues that she thought it was embarassing to try to play together with high school girls.

Upon hearing that Conan decides that "Azusa" must be Vermouth: Conan knows that Okiya's Akai so if Azusa found out Akai would be killed. He warns Okiya by whispering into the ear about Vermouth.

But then their reason to leave the scene is crushed by another reason: some firefigthers come to inspect the equipment and, when they open the door of the audience's seats, Rokumichi's hanged corpse is found hanging over the stage.

Side-note: the musician hanged high in the air. What's the explanation for this mysterious situation...!?
Spoiler:
Are you sure the title isn't, "A Traitor's Punishment?"
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@DCUniverseAficionado: no, because the word used is 裏切り (uragiri). Traitor is 裏切り者 (uragirimono).
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Spimer wrote:@DCUniverseAficionado: no, because the word used is 裏切り (uragiri). Traitor is 裏切り者 (uragirimono).
Oh, I get it.
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Yo, we're really getting a lot of plot, and it seems we aren't stopping any time soon, but seriously though, Akai, Rei and Vermouth(possibly?) all in one chapter? I still hope Kuroda will show up somehow.
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Uchiha Shadow wrote:
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Yo, we're really getting a lot of plot, and it seems we aren't stopping any time soon, but seriously though, Akai, Rei and Vermouth(possibly?) all in one chapter? I still hope Kuroda will show up somehow.
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I probably said this for the last two cases, but it's still true—he could very well appear when the police arrive.

If we count 947 (pretty much the last couple pages), then this is the 8th straight file of Koji Haneda-related and Rum-related cases.

This looks like a 3-file case, but who knows? There are three weeks to Movie 20—it'd be strange if the file that came out alongside Movie 20 wasn't BO-related. Possible, but strange.
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Amuro driving is all I neeeed.. It's all I need baby.
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It just hit me—maybe what Rei/Tooru is referring to when he thinks about "[disposing of it] before it goes public," it may be related to the beginning of Movie 20, with Ms. Heterochromia stealing the secret files from the police. Maybe the NPA—not the BO—has ordered him to deal with the problem.

Also, when Shinichi/Conan thinks Vermouth is disguised as someone, we're never told that he does until it's revealed or after it's revealed, right (either that, or he has no idea, like the Cherry Blossom Pickpocket Case (850–852/734))? Given that this is not what's happening, Asuza may really be just Asuza, and not Vermouth.

Speaking of Vermouth and the Cherry Blossom Pickpocket Case, perhaps Vermouth is disguised as someone else, entirely.
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Hodo... Is he on the APTX list? Sorry somehow it become my new habbit sha sha sha.
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Themaninarmor wrote:
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Hodo... Is he on the APTX list? Sorry somehow it become my new habbit sha sha sha.
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So we've gotten Okiya's take on the Koji case
Masumi and Mary's take on the case
and now
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possibly Bourbon and Vermouth's ?
Whats next?
is Scotch going to rise out of his grave and give his ?
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
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It just hit me—maybe what Rei/Tooru is referring to when he thinks about "[disposing of it] before it goes public," it may be related to the beginning of Movie 20, with Ms. Heterochromia stealing the secret files from the police. Maybe the NPA—not the BO—has ordered him to deal with the problem.

Also, when Shinichi/Conan thinks Vermouth is disguised as someone, we're never told that he does until it's revealed or after it's revealed, right (either that, or he has no idea, like the Cherry Blossom Pickpocket Case (850–852/734))? Given that this is not what's happening, Asuza may really be just Asuza, and not Vermouth.

Speaking of Vermouth and the Cherry Blossom Pickpocket Case, perhaps Vermouth is disguised as someone else, entirely.
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I don't think what you're saying is possible because the movies and the manga shouldn't be that closely connected.

Considering that Amuro shows up at this musician's rehearsal, I'd say he's probably been tasked with making sure the song 'Asaca' doesn't go public. And just like in the case leading up to Scarlet, someone else does his job for him before he could get to it.
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Another 3 chapter case it seems. I wish there could be a little more variation in the length of the cases.
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