Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-944

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby k11chi » December 8th, 2015, 4:01 am

I wonder what Ai thinks of Akai atm.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby AICHAN » December 8th, 2015, 2:14 pm

MoonRaven wrote:
Serinox wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:Just realized... Didn't Gosho say years ago that Haibara and Sera will have an confrontation? Do you think it will be related(heh) to MG?

It was earlier this year, in his new year postcards (http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12705)

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According to the translation thread, the message was: "3. "Sera and Haibara both like the same person, hence their showdown/confrontation." ;", which points more towards something romantic in my mind. Sure, if the MG is Elena or if the MG is Sera's mother and Elena's sister, then technically both Haibara and Sera "like" her, but it would be a rather odd phrasing if it is about a mutual relative imo

Oh, I see. Thank you for the clarification. I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Considering they are cousins, the romantic aspect makes this arc even more riduculous...
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby Kor » December 9th, 2015, 6:39 am

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Well, at least we're getting one thing out of this case. Chiba's first name has been revealed.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby MoonRaven » December 9th, 2015, 7:10 am

yay...
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » December 9th, 2015, 6:49 pm

MoonRaven wrote:I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Well, if you're not a fan of Masumi and Shiho/Ai having a confrontation over Shinichi/Conan, then get ready... >:D

Actually, Shiho's/Ai's feelings for Shinichi/Conan haven't come up in a while, in the manga (If I'm not mistaken, the Vermouth arc was the last time we saw it on display).
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby Serinox » December 9th, 2015, 7:20 pm

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Well, if you're not a fan of Masumi and Shiho/Ai having a confrontation over Shinichi/Conan, then get ready... >:D

Actually, Shiho's/Ai's feelings for Shinichi/Conan haven't come up in a while, in the manga (If I'm not mistaken, the Vermouth arc was the last time we saw it on display).

Well, you could maybe count her "Tsundere" moment after MT, but that was still over 3 years ago.
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Postby Jecka » December 9th, 2015, 9:42 pm

Chiba gets character development through his name! :D
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » December 10th, 2015, 8:41 am

Jecka wrote:Chiba gets character development through his name! :D


Isn't that just information (I know, the point is, he doesn't get any development :-\ )?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby AICHAN » December 10th, 2015, 1:20 pm

Serinox wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Well, if you're not a fan of Masumi and Shiho/Ai having a confrontation over Shinichi/Conan, then get ready... >:D

Actually, Shiho's/Ai's feelings for Shinichi/Conan haven't come up in a while, in the manga (If I'm not mistaken, the Vermouth arc was the last time we saw it on display).

Well, you could maybe count her "Tsundere" moment after MT, but that was still over 3 years ago.


It still doesn't make sense to me,considering that Ai is always helping Shinichi with Ran,she was even happy for them.I don't see the point of a confrontation with Sera while she already knows he loves Ran.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby Serinox » December 10th, 2015, 1:46 pm

AICHAN wrote:
Serinox wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Well, if you're not a fan of Masumi and Shiho/Ai having a confrontation over Shinichi/Conan, then get ready... >:D

Actually, Shiho's/Ai's feelings for Shinichi/Conan haven't come up in a while, in the manga (If I'm not mistaken, the Vermouth arc was the last time we saw it on display).

Well, you could maybe count her "Tsundere" moment after MT, but that was still over 3 years ago.


It still doesn't make sense to me,considering that Ai is always helping Shinichi with Ran,she was even happy for them.I don't see the point of a confrontation with Sera while she already knows he loves Ran.

I wouldn't say she's always helping, because of her worries that he will get weak and tell her his identity as Conan, but yeah, she knows that he loves Ran.

Just ... this concept brought up doesn't make sense in an romantic context, but it's heavily implied that it will be in that context. Why have a romantic confrontation between those two, when Shinichi doesn't love either of them? Even a romantic confrontation between Ai and Ran would make little sense; between Sera and Ran would make more sense, but it's ultimately pointless, because there is just no way that Shinichi would take Sera over Ran.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby AICHAN » December 10th, 2015, 3:11 pm

Serinox wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Serinox wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:I'd completely forgotten the "romantic" aspect of this showdown...


Well, if you're not a fan of Masumi and Shiho/Ai having a confrontation over Shinichi/Conan, then get ready... >:D

Actually, Shiho's/Ai's feelings for Shinichi/Conan haven't come up in a while, in the manga (If I'm not mistaken, the Vermouth arc was the last time we saw it on display).

Well, you could maybe count her "Tsundere" moment after MT, but that was still over 3 years ago.


It still doesn't make sense to me,considering that Ai is always helping Shinichi with Ran,she was even happy for them.I don't see the point of a confrontation with Sera while she already knows he loves Ran.

I wouldn't say she's always helping, because of her worries that he will get weak and tell her his identity as Conan, but yeah, she knows that he loves Ran.

Just ... this concept brought up doesn't make sense in an romantic context, but it's heavily implied that it will be in that context. Why have a romantic confrontation between those two, when Shinichi doesn't love either of them? Even a romantic confrontation between Ai and Ran would make little sense; between Sera and Ran would make more sense, but it's ultimately pointless, because there is just no way that Shinichi would take Sera over Ran.


Yeah this is just a stupid idea which contradicts with the evolution of the story....I just don't understand...
I know I've been complaining a lot lately but I'm really disappointed at Gosho's choices,because in the past I used to love every direction he took with the plot,character development and cases,it was subtle but not convulted,every detail made sense...now it's just a serie of random ideas fixed together,with characters that just pops up out of nowhere...
I guess the more we love something, the more we get disappointed...
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby Kahomi » December 10th, 2015, 9:30 pm

k11chi wrote:I wonder what Ai thinks of Akai atm.


who do you mean, Rye/Dai or Subaru? :))
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby jimmy_kud0_tv2 » December 10th, 2015, 11:54 pm

Kahomi wrote:
k11chi wrote:I wonder what Ai thinks of Akai atm.


who do you mean, Rye/Dai or Subaru? :))


Haibara knows who Akai is, just not officially what he looks like. She overheard that Akai was the FBI agent that saved her (and Ran)
from Vermouth at the Halloween case. She also brought it up to Conan after "Clash of Red and Black" when she asked Conan if she could
meet Akai, but Conan had to turn her down. At the time he was concerned with how she would react to finding out that technically Akai was
responsible for Akemi's death...ect. Plus the fake death plan made it impossible even if that first part wasn't there.

As of the "I won't even forgive one milimeter case", Haibara already thinks that "Subaru" is similar to Rye/Dai
Due to the "don't make that kind of face" comment that they both have made in the past.
and
As of the "Jodies Memories / Cherry Blossom Shrine case", Haibara thinks that "Akai" is similar to Rye/Dai
Due to the fact that Jodie mentions that Akai really likes canned coffee.

Its only a matter of time before the DB slip and tell her that Subaru is wearing a collar
then all of this will be resolved,

well.... only if Masumi doesn't find Akai first.
they both have a strange attraction to him
(which is going to be weird if they all do turn out to be family)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby MoonRaven » December 11th, 2015, 4:39 am

Just a random thought here... I wonder if Akemi's P.S. will come to play soon.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 942-94X

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » December 11th, 2015, 12:21 pm

MoonRaven wrote:Just a random thought here... I wonder if Akemi's P.S. will come to play soon.


It's not really random, in relation to Masumi, Shuichi and Shiho/Ai. You bet it'll get brought up in the middle of all that.

AICHAN wrote:I'm really disappointed at Gosho's choices,because in the past I used to love every direction he took with the plot,character development and cases,it was subtle but not convulted,every detail made sense...now it's just a serie of random ideas fixed together,with characters that just pops up out of nowhere...


Kinda what happens when you have a seven-year interlude.

AICHAN wrote:I know I've been complaining a lot lately...
I guess the more we love something, the more we get disappointed...


How much lower can you possibly go, though, beyond the Miyanos and the Akais being related, from the "story aspects I don't like" perspective?
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