Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.
I hope that I can find someway to contribute to the community even if it's just random crack theories and looking things up for people who can't find the information they need.
The culprit threw the remains of the tape that was supposedly attached to the hose at Yumi together with the hose. The 3 customers don’t have anything of monetary value with them.
The gloves that the culprit probably used were found dirty in the sewage, and they can’t tell whose they are. The victim was at the Ramen restaurant before and showed off with a piercing worth 1,000,000 Yen (about $8000).
Shuukichi and the culprit passed by each other for a second, and he remembers a strange clicking sound while the latter ran away. There’s something shining/glittering in the toilet tank of the ramen shop.
Side note: What’s the hiding place of the treasure, that Conan and Sera noticed?!
Edit: Some further info from 2ch:
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Shuukichi only appears on the phone. Yumi and Sera call him at practically the same time. Yumi gets through first, gets puts on hold, he talks to Sera, hangs up, talks to Yumi again.
Sooo is it safe to assume that the robber-murderer hid the "treasure" they had stolen from the victim in the toilet tank of the Ogura ramen shop? The clues to identify the culprit are 1) the 3 condiments that 3 suspects used 2) the strange clicking sound the culprit made when they ran away, right?
And the infamous hose, too.
The culprit threw the remains of the tape that was supposedly attached to the hose at Yumi together with the hose. The 3 customers don’t have anything of monetary value with them.
The gloves that the culprit probably used were found dirty in the sewage, and they can’t tell whose they are. The victim was at the Ramen restaurant before and showed off with a piercing worth 1,000,000 Yen (about $8000).
Shuukichi and the culprit passed by each other for a second, and he remembers a strange clicking sound while the latter ran away. There’s something shining/glittering in the toilet tank of the ramen shop.
Side note: What’s the hiding place of the treasure, that Conan and Sera noticed?!
Edit: Some further info from 2ch:
ABBC3_SPOILER_SHOW
Shuukichi only appears on the phone. Yumi and Sera call him at practically the same time. Yumi gets through first, gets puts on hold, he talks to Sera, hangs up, talks to Yumi again.
Spoiler:
First, 2ch? What's that?
Second, is the tape described in more detail, or is that it?
Third, where did the clicking come from, or was just the clicking as specific as it got?
Fourth, it's likely be the 1,000,000 Yen piercing in the toilet.
Fifth, my guess is Masumi's and Yumi's calls were done in such a way that still doesn't undoubtedly reveal Shukichi as the middle brother, but was it done in such a way? What were the details, if any were given?
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
2ch is a Japanese forum consisting on threads that allow up to 1000 comments having text only. A lot of games discussions happen there as well as a lot of trolling.
I guess a Japanese fan got the info (I dunno how: doesn't file 929 come out next week?) and posted it there.
Second, is the tape described in more detail, or is that it?
Third, where did the clicking come from, or was just the clicking as specific as it got?
Fourth, it's likely be the 1,000,000 Yen piercing in the toilet.
Fifth, my guess is Masumi's and Yumi's calls were done in such a way that still doesn't undoubtedly reveal Shukichi as the middle brother, but was it done in such a way? What were the details, if any were given?
Spoiler:
1. 2ch (short for 2channel) is a popular anonymous Japanese discussion forum. It's the place where all the Japanese people hang out on the internet, basically. DC text spoilers usually originate from there. Because it's completely anonymous though, there's no guarantee that the information is correct and should always be taken with a grain of salt.
2.+3. & 5. I translated everything there was, no details were left out. I know it's not a lot, but there's nothing we can do about it.
Edit: Ninja'd by Spimer. I guess the new forum doesn't show you if you've been ninja's anymore? :<
Second, is the tape described in more detail, or is that it?
Third, where did the clicking come from, or was just the clicking as specific as it got?
Fourth, it's likely be the 1,000,000 Yen piercing in the toilet.
Fifth, my guess is Masumi's and Yumi's calls were done in such a way that still doesn't undoubtedly reveal Shukichi as the middle brother, but was it done in such a way? What were the details, if any were given?
Spoiler:
1. 2ch (short for 2channel) is a popular anonymous Japanese discussion forum. It's the place where all the Japanese people hang out on the internet, basically. DC text spoilers usually originate from there. Because it's completely anonymous though, there's no guarantee that the information is correct and should always be taken with a grain of salt.
2.+3. & 5. I translated everything there was, no details were left out. I know it's not a lot, but there's nothing we can do about it.
Edit: Ninja'd by Spimer. I guess the new forum doesn't show you if you've been ninja's anymore? :<
Spoiler:
And I take it you're not going to provide a link if I ask? It's a trade secret, right?
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Perhaps Gosho stopped making the storyline too complicated already as he's getting older and being hospitalized many times due to illness, the top climax is during Jodie/Vermouth arc where he made the great plot twist. Starting Bourbon arc, Gosho gave many hints to prove Subaru Okiya obviously for us to think he is Shuichi Akai in disguised, from drinking Bourbon and Camel mentioned Akai loves to drink Bourbon too, Okiya and Akai had same favorite quotes to Okiya's eyes identical to Akai. For Tooru Amuro, Gosho gave hints that he's secret police. Now Gosho could give very easy hints to let us convinced Shukichi Haneda is Sera's middle brother as he is tired and ran out of steam to make the storyline more complicated already.
Perhaps Gosho stopped making the storyline too complicated already as he's getting older and being hospitalized many times due to illness, the top climax is during Jodie/Vermouth arc where he made the great plot twist. Starting Bourbon arc, Gosho gave many hints to prove Subaru Okiya obviously for us to think he is Shuichi Akai in disguised, from drinking Bourbon and Camel mentioned Akai loves to drink Bourbon too, Okiya and Akai had same favorite quotes to Okiya's eyes identical to Akai. For Tooru Amuro, Gosho gave hints that he's secret police. Now Gosho could give very easy hints to let us convinced Shukichi Haneda is Sera's middle brother as he is tired and ran out of steam to make the storyline more complicated already.
Spoiler:
Of course, you realize that no one knows how DC is going to reach the end. We may yet be surprised. I mean, we're all still here, talking about DC—we want to see how it ends. Are you convinced that, for the rest of DC, Gosho's never going to exceed what he did in Files 429–434/Episode 345? And, if so, is it because of the Bourbon arc? Has it convinced you that Gosho can't exceed the Vermouth arc climax?
Many thanks! Has this specific... user? (just taking a shot in the dark)... made posts about spoilers in advance, or is this a new find for you?
Spoiler:
Did it say that Shuichi/Subaru arrived at the restaurant? That's what one of the lines said.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Many thanks! Has this specific... user? (just taking a shot in the dark)... made posts about spoilers in advance, or is this a new find for you?
No problem. As mentioned earlier, 2ch is completely anonymous, so you can't really link a post to a specific user. The spoilers could come from the same person as last week, or from someone completely different and we'll never know. Thus there's no such thing as 'reliability' when it comes to 2ch spoilers. But that's enough on 2ch, let's try to get back on topic. ^^
Did it say that Shuichi/Subaru arrived at the restaurant? That's what one of the lines said.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Did it say that Shuichi/Subaru arrived at the restaurant? That's what one of the lines said.
Spoiler:
Um, not sure what you mean. As I said, I translated all the spoilers. Everything else you might see on 2ch are ideas, theories & predictions by the users.