Mystery Poll: Poll #37

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Re: Mystery Poll: #18

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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote:'Rum's voice will be heard, but it will be distorted'.

But I believe 'Rum will merely appear as a vague or shadowy figure' is possible too.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #18

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Heliotropic wrote:I don't see them doing a reveal like Movie 18, not with what we have now anyways... In Movie 18's case, there was at least quite a bit to draw from, so finding out that Subaru was Akai didn't really mean much. On the contrary, are there even any Rum suspects really worth looking at?
It was still official confirmation, though. Nevertheless, your point is well taken. :)

Rum suspects...

Hyoue = RED HERRING

Kansuke = RED HERRING + Confirmed by Gosho (at least twice)

Kiyonaga = Gosho would have to render some of the last panels of Page 16 (or 18, maybe) of File 80 to make it work + Rum would likely have been in BO from the beginning of his life... I don't see him letting himself get scarred when he's well into his BO career (Kiyonaga was 30 in the flashback, I think)

Heizo = Father of upstanding detective, husband of upstanding wife, both of whom had at least one big moral speech... maybe not his best move, as Rum, to have his son and wife be potential threats to his freedom

Taka'aki is the only suspect I can't really rule out, even though he and the four I just mentioned have all had opportunities to see Shinichi's/Conan's intelligence, and Hyoue and Kansuke have both seen Shiho/Ai (Kansuke in File 681, I think). Kiyonaga may have seen her in File 807 or File 808 when she came into Police HQ. That leaves Heizo and Taka'aki without seeing her—Rum may not know of Shinichi Kudo that well, so seeing his intellect would be just something Rum would be curious about, rather than alarm bell ringing, "He should be dead!"... that applies for Shiho/Ai, though—Rum seeing Shiho/Ai should lead to things happening.
Heliotropic wrote:I'm just being overly optimistic. For such a speedy resolution, well... I think most of us know where this is likely to end up :-X
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Re: Mystery Poll: #18

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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Heliotropic wrote:I don't see them doing a reveal like Movie 18, not with what we have now anyways... In Movie 18's case, there was at least quite a bit to draw from, so finding out that Subaru was Akai didn't really mean much. On the contrary, are there even any Rum suspects really worth looking at?
It was still official confirmation, though. Nevertheless, your point is well taken. :)

Rum suspects...

Hyoue = RED HERRING

Kansuke = RED HERRING + Confirmed by Gosho (at least twice)

Kiyonaga = Gosho would have to render some of the last panels of Page 16 (or 18, maybe) of File 80 to make it work + Rum would likely have been in BO from the beginning of his life... I don't see him letting himself get scarred when he's well into his BO career (Kiyonaga was 30 in the flashback, I think)

Heizo = Father of upstanding detective, husband of upstanding wife, both of whom had at least one big moral speech... maybe not his best move, as Rum, to have his son and wife be potential threats to his freedom

Taka'aki is the only suspect I can't really rule out, even though he and the four I just mentioned have all had opportunities to see Shinichi's/Conan's intelligence, and Hyoue and Kansuke have both seen Shiho/Ai (Kansuke in File 681, I think). Kiyonaga may have seen her in File 807 or File 808 when she came into Police HQ. That leaves Heizo and Taka'aki without seeing her—Rum may not know of Shinichi Kudo that well, so seeing his intellect would be just something Rum would be curious about, rather than alarm bell ringing, "He should be dead!"... that applies for Shiho/Ai, though—Rum seeing Shiho/Ai should lead to things happening.
I agree with all of that, while I don't like the idea that Taka'aki is RUM, it's not impossible, but his friendship with Kansuke would be weird if that's the case, I think we should wait until more RUM cases happen, at some point I think that Conan will realize that RUM's characteristics might not be physical.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #18

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Voted: Rum will merely appear as a vague or shadowy figure

The distorted voice option would be my second guess.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #18

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Uchiha Shadow wrote:While I don't like the idea that Taka'aki is RUM, it's not impossible, but his friendship with Kansuke would be weird if that's the case, I think we should wait until more RUM cases happen, at some point I think that Conan will realize that RUM's characteristics might not be physical.
Maybe their friendship is for the purpose of showing it'll be hard for Kansuke to bring him down, if Taka'aki is Rum.

The false eye could easily be a setup by Rum to mislead people—knowing how BO character-centered cases start, Shinichi/Conan will stumble on something that makes Rum's identity clearer.
Kor wrote:Voted: Rum will merely appear as a vague or shadowy figure

The distorted voice option would be my second guess.
These two are the most likely options, I think.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #19

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Voted 'Those eyes are just there to generate hype but there won't be any character like that in the movie'.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #19

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I put "Movie only character" just in case
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Movie Only Character, my second choice would be that it's a disguise, maybe RUM would appear like that, it won't reveal the identity and RUM would appear at the same time.
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Movie only character .
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43% for Rum ?! :o people surely are so optimistic.
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wrd wrote:Movie only character .
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43% for Rum ?! :o people surely are so optimistic.
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Given that Gosho said Rum will be on the movie, i don't think it is to exaggerate :P
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Re: Mystery Poll: #20

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Who are all these people who think Akemi was adopted? I've never heard the idea once.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #20

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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:Who are all these people who think Akemi was adopted? I've never heard the idea once.
That makes two of us.
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