Mystery Poll: #22

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Re: Mystery Poll: #22

Postby Swagnarok » November 28th, 2016, 4:50 pm

Of what I hear of the recent manga case, Rumi was hailed in a newspaper for having solved the case. A BO agent would try to avoid that kind of attention from the press.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #22

Postby eros1607 » November 28th, 2016, 6:29 pm

Swagnarok wrote:
Of what I hear of the recent manga case, Rumi was hailed in a newspaper for having solved the case. A BO agent would try to avoid that kind of attention from the press.

What about Kir and Vermouth, who are celebrities? I think it depends on their missions and how they handle things, so don't generalize them. Rumi can deliberately appear on newspaper to attract the attention of police force and distract them from other members.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #22

Postby Nemomon » November 29th, 2016, 5:50 am

I went with the NPA/PSB one.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #22

Postby MeiTanteixX » November 29th, 2016, 6:04 am

I think she is Asaka (but not Rum), as well as someone seeking revenge for Kouji and is trying to find Rum(doesn't know that the culprit is called "Rum"), by atttacting attention to her through the dying message in her Alias, and also gaining Conan's help.
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Re: Mystery Poll: #22

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » November 29th, 2016, 6:29 am

1st Choice (and, thus, my vote): Asaka (not Rum)

2nd Choice: Someone else related in some way to the case (or the victims) from 17 years ago

3rd Choice: A member of the NPA or the PSB or An agent of another intelligence agency

4th Choice: Another new BO agent or a BO goon

5th Choice: Vermouth or Rum or A red herring character who has nothing to do with anything

If Rumi turns out to be involved in the case from 17 years ago, it wouldn't be the first time Gosho kept trying to get us to think a teacher was a BO member, but, actually, was personally connected to an old crime committed by the BO.

Whether she was Amanda's bodyguard (Asaka), or is from an intelligence agency (NPA, PSB, etc.), I'd say it's still likely she's connected to the case from 17 years ago. Either way, I also think it's very likely that she was Koji's girlfriend.

I think she could only be a new BO member/goon if she doesn't know Shiho's/Sherry's face.

Rumi seems to be testing Shinichi/Conan—I see no reason why Vermouth would do that, considering how well she already knows him and knows of his capabilities.

For me, Rumi has a .001% chance of being Rum.

There's no such thing as a "a red herring character who has nothing to do with anything" in the mysteries of DC's arcs—such a character would serve no purpose. Especially when Gosho has red herring characters in the arc mysteries who go on to have purpose beyond just being a red herring.
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