After talking back and forth with Kor in the Spoiler chat box, we seemed to have come to the conclusion that the anime subtitled version of the Karasuma Renya case has a few errors in it. The most often recurring online fan translation of the manga chapters of that case also seem to contain a lot of errors.
1. In the Kaizou subs version of the anime, during the scene where Detective Mogi, Mouri, and Conan find the piano and the note hidden between the keys, Mogi states that the tragedy rumor and the riddle are "all true and relevant" ... However the word used in both the manga and anime in Japanese is "mayutsuba" meaning "false / counterfeit", which is the exact opposite of what the subtitles say.
At the end of the case, Senma tries to say that Karasuma was still alive 40 years ago when her father was hired to solve the riddle. Karasuma was killing the people he invited to solve the riddle as motivation to find the treasure quicker. This contradicts the earlier story that is told about two strangers and marijuana on several points. 1. Both events happened 40 years ago. 2. Both events caused massive amounts of blood to be spilled. 3. Karasuma was still alive at 40 years ago even though the story said he died "half a century ago".
2. The Kaizou Subs also completely skip the line where it says that Karasuma Renya inherited the mansion from his mother. They just leave the line "He told me he always wanted to find the treasure" on the screen when Senma is explaining the inheritance thing.
Karasuma Renya later finds the clues about the King, Queen, and Knight and begins paying people to see if they can solve the riddle. Then killing them when they don't solve it, as motivation for the others to work faster.
3. Many fan translations of the manga that are circulating have Karasuma Renya's name translated as "Crow Association". It looks like they just didn't realize that it was supposed to be a name and tried to find words to match it.
4. At the beginning of the case, Senma recognizes Mogi and says that she read that he was shot by the mafia in Chicago one week prior to the case. In the Kaizou subs, they just have "I heard you were shot by some mafia members" and in the official VIZ translation they have "I heard you were shot last week in Chicago", when actually both things are said in both the anime and the manga. He was shot by the mafia in Chicago the week before.
As an extra thing, it is never really stated whether or not Karasuma found the treasure. All we can really say for sure is that Senma's father did solve the riddle, and left a clue about it in blood and was never seen again, and that Karasuma never activated the device clock. These imply that Karasuma never knew the answer to the riddle, as he was a greedy person and would have gone and done so if he was aware. Senma claims that Karasuma died at some point after that (between 40 years ago (when the father was hired) and 20 years ago (when she found the clue in his letters)).
Last edited by jimmy_kud0_tv2
on December 11th, 2017, 7:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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