My apologies to. Truthfully, I'm reading and try understand carefully all replies even how long it is. I'm not here to start an unfriendly debate. All I want is to share and exchange my ideas, theories, opinions, deductions about DC.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:This isn't a theory, this is an observation as a native English speaker who trusts the translators.
I'm not a native English speakers to begin with. English is my second language. I always trusted the translator of DCTP. DCTP translation group is one of the best in translation group IMO.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:Please start a new topic if you want to continue to debate this
Like what I said no debates.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:Apologies because this is less than diplomatic to say, but you seem to be stuck on this theory that the boss must have given Amuro permission to see the files and video because it is a reasonable thing to do. It is clouding your ability to step back and examine the lines in a neutral and critical fashion.
I'm always in neutral and always consider all possible theories base on logic, common sense and my observation. Its reasonable because it is a part of verification/investigation on Akai's Death which The Boss permitted to begin with. The only reason i think the boss will not permit Amuro to access the files is that he doesn't trust Amuro, but considering Amuro's(Bourbon) Activation and Boss permission chances is very slim.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:The line in 824 proves exactly what I said it does. If Bourbon had permission to look at the files then he would have said "I'm going to look at the files again".
This is only true if
that permission to look at the files has no time limit/time span
, but if it hastime limit/time span
it is false. Like what I pointing out in my last post, if we consider on how the BO handle their Classified Information, both security clearance and time limit/time span)
must be implemented, since they are a SECRET Organization and having free to see anything and anytime system on classified info will compromised the Org.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:But Bourbon did not say this. He said "Can I see them one more time?". HE HAS TO ASK VERMOUTH FOR PERMISSION TO SEE THE FILES! That means he cannot view them freely by himself. Nobody asks permission to see things they are already free to see.
You must first know how classified information works before concluding like this.
To access CI(specific information you want to access) you need first security clearance(an approval/permission of higher up) depending on what kind/level of CI you wish to access. After they gave security clearance you now have an access to the specific CI and also they gave you a time limit/time span
on accessing that CI. After the time limit/time span expired the security clearance will also expire. Therefore to access again that specific CI you need to have another security clearance(an approval/permission of higher up) to gain an access again.
Considering the above info this what happen likely. the boss give permission to access file to Amuro via Boss's permission to verify Akai's death > Amuro gain an access to files > The time limit expired > Amuro cannot access the files anymore > Amuro ask permission to Vermouth on 824 to see it again one more time > Amuro gain an access again
to files > The time limit expired > Amuro cannot access the files anymore again
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: However, Vermouth seems to know he hasn't seen it, because he doesn't have permission.
Sorry i don't see your point on how he doesn't have/gain a permission.
We knew that video is part BO classified info right? Agree? If Yes
Then this my deduction (If No? don't read it)
On 824 this is what Amuro said "The detailed files from BEFORE and AFTER AKAI's DEATH...Can I see them one more time?" and Vermouth replied "Yes..."
The question is, did that video
of detailed files from BEFORE and AFTER AKAI's DEATH? Yes
. Because it was the video of Akai being shot(The day Akai's faked his own death)
. Now did he gain a permission to access the video? Yes.
cause Vermouth reply to Amuro's question is "Yes...".
How many times did Amuro accessed the files before 894? Minumum of 2
Why? because Amuro said "Can I see them one more time?". "One more time" is same as the word "again" and it may denotes 2 or more.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: "If that's what you suspect, would you like to see the video of Akai being shot? -- Ah, yes... the video that was taken via a hidden camera around Kir's neck."
Because Vermouth knows Amuro hasn't seen the video yet, she tells Amuro about what Kir and Akai said to each other. Note how Vermouth phrases her comment. "This is what that guy said before he was shot." That is what you would say to someone new to the material. You would not use that phrasing to recollect about something you both have seen. Vermouth would have told Amuro "Remember what that guy said before he was shot?" if Amuro has seen the video already.
I think there was a misunderstanding in here. Maybe because of what I said last post
Yuki_JX wrote:It implies that Amuro already seen these files before probably after the boss gave him the permission.
Yuki_JX wrote:These files/materials may range to handwritten documents, reports, digital data, audio, and videos.
What I mean of "seen"
in here is not the video itself, but media (ie. sdcard, cd, bluray) where the video is recorded or stored. The word "see" is a very complicated word because it changes its meaning depending on how you use it in a sentence.
For clarification Amuro seen the files include the media
(where is the video is recorded or stored), but he doesn't watch
I'm hoping for a healthy sharing and exchanging ideas, theories, opinions, deductions