Huge Discovery regarding Tooru Amuro
- Conan 48:69
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Huge Discovery regarding Tooru Amuro
Amuro said "With the appendix it can become dangerous if you just let it slide", appendix is "盲腸" in Japanese. Perhaps Conan thinks "He...could it be...(from Public Security Bureau?)"
http://www.dctp.ws/V84-Reader/V84-5Read/A14.html
http://www.sentaku.co.jp/category/culture/post-1401.php
行き詰まりを見せる民主党の「事業仕分け」に最適のターゲットがある。長年にわたり「リストラ官庁」「霞が関の盲腸」などといわれながら、延命してきた「公安調査庁(公安庁)」だ。いまだに霞が関にのうのうと存在していること自体が驚天動地である。基本的な情報収集能力すら欠落するこの無能官庁を、これ以上存置させる必要はない。
There is a target of the best of the Democratic Party to show the impasse in the "business sorting". While being referred to as "restructuring authority" or "cecum of Kasumigaseki" Over the years, we have been life-prolonging "the Public Security Intelligence Agency (Public Safety Agency)," said. Itself that is present in Kasumigaseki To Nounou still is earth-shattering. It is not necessary to Sonchi more, the inability Office information gathering basic capabilities even missing.
So perhaps Amuro is a spy sending from Public Security Bureau.
Sources:
Public Security Bureau
Public Security Bureau in Japanese
Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department Public Security Bureau
Why do Amuro overreact to Zero(ゼロ):
チヨダとは、日本の公安警察で協力者運営などの情報収集(作業と呼ぶ)の統括を担当する係。かつてはサクラ、四係と呼ばれた。現在はゼロとも呼ばれる。
Chiyoda is Japanese public security police in the collaborator management (information gathering, such as work and engagement, which is responsible for supervising the called). Now it was also called zero.
Police
Date said he was always number two in Police Academy, since Amuro had international level, becoming the top in Japan is just a piece of cake for him.
http://www.dctp.ws/V84-Reader/V84-5Read/A14.html
http://www.sentaku.co.jp/category/culture/post-1401.php
行き詰まりを見せる民主党の「事業仕分け」に最適のターゲットがある。長年にわたり「リストラ官庁」「霞が関の盲腸」などといわれながら、延命してきた「公安調査庁(公安庁)」だ。いまだに霞が関にのうのうと存在していること自体が驚天動地である。基本的な情報収集能力すら欠落するこの無能官庁を、これ以上存置させる必要はない。
There is a target of the best of the Democratic Party to show the impasse in the "business sorting". While being referred to as "restructuring authority" or "cecum of Kasumigaseki" Over the years, we have been life-prolonging "the Public Security Intelligence Agency (Public Safety Agency)," said. Itself that is present in Kasumigaseki To Nounou still is earth-shattering. It is not necessary to Sonchi more, the inability Office information gathering basic capabilities even missing.
So perhaps Amuro is a spy sending from Public Security Bureau.
Sources:
Public Security Bureau
Public Security Bureau in Japanese
Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department Public Security Bureau
Why do Amuro overreact to Zero(ゼロ):
チヨダとは、日本の公安警察で協力者運営などの情報収集(作業と呼ぶ)の統括を担当する係。かつてはサクラ、四係と呼ばれた。現在はゼロとも呼ばれる。
Chiyoda is Japanese public security police in the collaborator management (information gathering, such as work and engagement, which is responsible for supervising the called). Now it was also called zero.
Police
Date said he was always number two in Police Academy, since Amuro had international level, becoming the top in Japan is just a piece of cake for him.
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- Vonikay
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Re: Huge Discovery regarding Tooru Amuro
Can you elaborate a bit more on your theory? I don't understand your logic as to why Amuro belongs to the Public Safety thing...
Edit: In which file does Amuro mention this appendix? Is the translation correct?
Can you post your translations for the Japanese text? I get the feeling you're misunderstanding them...
Edit: In which file does Amuro mention this appendix? Is the translation correct?
Can you post your translations for the Japanese text? I get the feeling you're misunderstanding them...
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What if he is a BO spy in the PSB..
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Could go either way, Kiichi.
But if that's the case, that means the Japanese police are also involved, which would be refreshing. They've otherwise been outside of the main plot, which is worrying, considering how the FBI wouldn't have jurisdiction for dealing with certain agents. That also explains why Amuro's so annoyed with the FBI and his comments in this past chapter about them and his reaction to zero pronounced as "zero" instead of "rei."
On the other hand, Kiichi has a point. Perhaps Conan's misunderstood the situation and thinks Amuro's with the PSB because of that reaction when it is more due to a generalization of stimuli. (Response to "rei" carrying over to a word with the same meaning?)
Edit: That also explains his comment about a friend involved in "security" teaching him how to lockpick: Someone else in the branch taught him how to do so. That also explains why he so openly carries around lockpicks and reveals them readily to Mouri. Perhaps he's legally allowed to use them? (In Japan, carrying around lockpicks like that would otherwise be illegal, correct?)
But if that's the case, that means the Japanese police are also involved, which would be refreshing. They've otherwise been outside of the main plot, which is worrying, considering how the FBI wouldn't have jurisdiction for dealing with certain agents. That also explains why Amuro's so annoyed with the FBI and his comments in this past chapter about them and his reaction to zero pronounced as "zero" instead of "rei."
On the other hand, Kiichi has a point. Perhaps Conan's misunderstood the situation and thinks Amuro's with the PSB because of that reaction when it is more due to a generalization of stimuli. (Response to "rei" carrying over to a word with the same meaning?)
Edit: That also explains his comment about a friend involved in "security" teaching him how to lockpick: Someone else in the branch taught him how to do so. That also explains why he so openly carries around lockpicks and reveals them readily to Mouri. Perhaps he's legally allowed to use them? (In Japan, carrying around lockpicks like that would otherwise be illegal, correct?)
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- Fujiwara
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Re: Huge Discovery regarding Tooru Amuro
Okay, a couple of things ...
First off, great discovery Conan#1! Kudos
Now, let's get the Zero thing straight here as well, because it turns out to be exactly as crucial as I thought it'd be. If you haven't read the TN in chapter 889, please take note of it: http://www.dctp.ws/V84-Reader/V84-6Read/A14.html
It reads: Our translation distinguishes between two ways to say 0: Zero (ゼロ) and Rei (零).
What does that mean? Every time you read 'zero' in a DCTP release (ch. 888+) it actually says 'zero' (ゼロ) in the Japanese file, not 'rei' (零)! Only Elena says 'rei' and thus our translation also says 'rei'. I hope that makes things clear!
Now, as to the matter of Amuro belonging to the Public Security Intelligence Agency or the Security police (I think the latter makes more sense, because of the 'Zero' thing) ...
After noticing Amuro's reaction to the word 'zero' and his appendix comment, Conan probably thinks Amuro is part of the SP, however, in reality Amuro likely got the nickname 'zero' (0) because his name, 'Rei' means 0, so Conan is making a mistake here ...
First off, great discovery Conan#1! Kudos

Now, let's get the Zero thing straight here as well, because it turns out to be exactly as crucial as I thought it'd be. If you haven't read the TN in chapter 889, please take note of it: http://www.dctp.ws/V84-Reader/V84-6Read/A14.html
It reads: Our translation distinguishes between two ways to say 0: Zero (ゼロ) and Rei (零).
What does that mean? Every time you read 'zero' in a DCTP release (ch. 888+) it actually says 'zero' (ゼロ) in the Japanese file, not 'rei' (零)! Only Elena says 'rei' and thus our translation also says 'rei'. I hope that makes things clear!
Now, as to the matter of Amuro belonging to the Public Security Intelligence Agency or the Security police (I think the latter makes more sense, because of the 'Zero' thing) ...
After noticing Amuro's reaction to the word 'zero' and his appendix comment, Conan probably thinks Amuro is part of the SP, however, in reality Amuro likely got the nickname 'zero' (0) because his name, 'Rei' means 0, so Conan is making a mistake here ...
Spoiler: Spoilers for file 892!
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Gosho style usually has good guy say they are bad. (Okiya and his preference for black, Jodie copies Vermouth catchphrase, Sera say shes a bad girl). Bad guy say they are bad and then turn out bad is....unheard of. I am not imply anything, just saying. 

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- Jd-
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I haven't kept up with the exact specifics of the latest developments, but didn't we expect Amuro's actual name would likely turn out to be "Rei" due to Amuro Ray (source Gundam character)? I'm sure we talked about that before, either here or the cbox.
- fra90snake
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Re: Huge Discovery regarding Tooru Amuro
In addition Gosho said that the skin color of Amuro has a deeper meaning ... please can you tell me anything about it?
- frankguo8
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this theory is confirmed in the newest FILE!
Although Amuro also said "you are mistaken"
GAH! I want to see the movie so bad and the next FILE too! this is too much omg!
Although Amuro also said "you are mistaken"
GAH! I want to see the movie so bad and the next FILE too! this is too much omg!
- MeiTanteixX
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so true!!!!!!!! Dxfrankguo8 wrote:this theory is confirmed in the newest FILE!
Although Amuro also said "you are mistaken"
GAH! I want to see the movie so bad and the next FILE too! this is too much omg!
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the PSB in Japan is known as Sakura, ie cherry flower... in that case (file 850) there were a lot of cherry flower
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and how is that related in your opinion?fra90snake wrote:the PSB in Japan is known as Sakura, ie cherry flower... in that case (file 850) there were a lot of cherry flower
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so Amuro is a PSB member! 

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i totally see the logical connection! x)fra90snake wrote:so Amuro is a PSB member!
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