Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.
AICHAN wrote:I know I've been complaining a lot lately...
I guess the more we love something, the more we get disappointed...
How much lower can you possibly go, though, beyond the Miyanos and the Akais being related, from the "story aspects I don't like" perspective?
The Kudo family and the Kuroba family being related? Yusaku and Toichi were brothers, Shinichi and Kaito are cousins
In order to solve the cousin romance problem, Gosho makes Akemi only a half biological sister to Ai with their father being Atsushi. It's later revealed Akemi's mother is Kogoro's sister, so Akemi and Ran are cousins, thus it explains why Ran makes both Ai and Akai think of Akemi when they see her.
AICHAN wrote:I know I've been complaining a lot lately...
I guess the more we love something, the more we get disappointed...
How much lower can you possibly go, though, beyond the Miyanos and the Akais being related, from the "story aspects I don't like" perspective?
The Kudo family and the Kuroba family being related? Yusaku and Toichi were brothers, Shinichi and Kaito are cousins
In order to solve the cousin romance problem, Gosho makes Akemi only a half biological sister to Ai with their father being Atsushi. It's later revealed Akemi's mother is Kogoro's sister, so Akemi and Ran are cousins, thus it explains why Ran makes both Ai and Akai think of Akemi when they see her.
I don't think it will make things get better.That's my opinion of course.If everybody is related with each other it won't be realistic.
As I said Akai being Akemi's cousin is not that much a problem for me (it's not shoking,it's pretty frequent in many countries),but it's just adding more drama than we need,and that doesn't makes sense to me...that Akai never found the ressemblance between Ai and his mom,or never saw a picture of his aunt...There are just too many unlogical things.
Even the promise Akai made to Akemi becomes useless.
And if you add the Sera/Ai confrontation,it becomes completly ridiculous if they are cousins.
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Serinox wrote:The Kudo family and the Kuroba family being related? Yusaku and Toichi were brothers, Shinichi and Kaito are cousins
But how much bearing does that have on the plot? Both Kaito (when he's not Kid) and Toichi have barely been in DC at all. On the other hand, Yusaku and Shinichi/Conan have not been in MK at all (yes, Shinichi was in Black Star, but that was a flashback).
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AICHAN wrote:
I don't think it will make things get better.That's my opinion of course.If everybody is related with each other it won't be realistic.
Ah no, that wasn't an attempt to make it better. I was just continuing the game of "how low can it go".
Care to continue? Cause the thing is, I suck at it. (Given that all I've done when it comes to DC's shortcomings, is just ask, and then often agree with people, about why they think it's bad, while it does nothing to impede my own experience. Isn't a seven-year-arc that's just considered filler and wasted potential the bottom of the barrel, though?)
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
MoonRaven wrote:Just a random thought here... I wonder if Akemi's P.S. will come to play soon.
It's not really random, in relation to Masumi, Shuichi and Shiho/Ai. You bet it'll get brought up in the middle of all that.
True, but for me the thought came quite suddenly and the next moment I was struggling in the confines of my mind whether or not to post the question on this thread...
The Eleventh Doctor wrote:Never ignore coincidence. Unless you are busy. Then always ignore the coincidence.
. The concrete square was to place an object (a monument) to commemorate Haido High's 50 years
. Both the victim and the suspect were hardly stuck and it was hard to free them
. One was flat in back, the other was prone
. The "accident" happened on October the 4th: an oddly hot day, there was the Haido City Festival
. There's a CCTV camera recording: only the victim and the suspect came into the scene
. Instead of an accomplice (as speculated by Kogoro) there is a long and narrow odd shadow: could it be the cigar-shaped UFO?
. Some days later...
. What Chiba talked about the "accident" has been leaked to the net
. He's scolded for that because HQ thinks he's the leaker
. Chiba seems to be turning skinnier, at least to Sato and Takagi's eyes. Yumi and Naeko seem to be involved.
. The actual leaker is Kogoro: he slipped it to a drinking buddy and that buddy posted it on a blog
. That asides, the suspect (the publisher) has started a blog as well but Conan finds it odd that he appeals about his tale online instead of telling the police
. Conan doesn't understand why the publisher would want to conceal that info, even if he was the culprit
. His UFO eyewitness account wasn't recorded (by the police, I guess?)
. Instead of trying to figure out if someone in the festival or someone in the stairs from which Shibuya - sensei was pushed from saw the UFO,
Conan decides to go to the publisher's house and ask him in person
. Once in there (along with Chiba, Kogoro and Ran) the publisher makes them wait because he argues the room was messy
. Conan stacks up one or more chairs and opens a cupboard: there's a black plastic bag and addhesive ape casually packed there
. Kogoro drags him away and Conan asks Ran to call Hina: the UFO she saw was colored black
.Side note: the unusual murder and the UFO are linked!? Next issue, the resolution!
Hi Shiratori!
Bye Shiratori!
see you in another 150 chapters.
I hope that I can find someway to contribute to the community even if it's just random crack theories and looking things up for people who can't find the information they need.
And I guessed wrong again... another tally for me responding to jokes as if they weren't.
I'm glad he has a name, too.
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Hi Shiratori!
Bye Shiratori!
see you in another 150 chapters.
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His first appearance in four years.
Whether his next appearance will be in 2020 or not depends on Gosho using/not using him beyond his role as a love rival/interest. It'd be nice to see him move beyond that, given he's been in DC to pretty much be just that.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
At first, I thought one of the victims was that science teacher at Teitan Elementary. You know, the one from the VHS of Memories case (First appearance of Miike).
Max1996 wrote:At first, I thought one of the victims was that science teacher at Teitan Elementary. You know, the one from the VHS of Memories case (First appearance of Miike).
Isn't the science teacher you're referring to the one that appeared, not in DC, but in a Magic Kaito story?
Wasn't the VHS case just about Chiba, Shinichi/Conan and the DBs figuring out Naeko's message? I don't think there was a murder, in that case.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)