What's the identity of Rum?
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Re: What's the identity of Rum?
It has to be Kuroda..! I don't think so any one other than him can be RUM and besides i feel his coma story is fake or something.
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I don't think his coma state is fake. It could be if he were a mere citizen. But he is a cop, so I doubt the BO could make a whole fake coma under the police's nose. The coma is real, but it could be that something happened after Rum killed Koji, and fell to coma. He recently woke up, and that's why he is on the move.
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Kuroda has history with the Nagano cops... They know how he looked before and after?
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I meant that after Kir messaged subaru about RUM he was the first person who was fit with the description of rum.
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Who, Kuroda? No, first we had that case of the woman scriptwriter who committed suicide and those 3 men that met the descriptions of RUM that Haibara had heard of: that's where the fake eye was firstly mentioned as well (manga: 906-908, anime: 792-793).
Then we have the Kamaitachi case in which Conan briefly considers Yamato to be RUM
Followed by the Kawanakajima case: Kuroda has his debut there yet Conan still has his doubts about Yamato.
So, no, the first person/s to fit RUM's description were the three suspects of the scriptwriter murder case
Then we have the Kamaitachi case in which Conan briefly considers Yamato to be RUM
Followed by the Kawanakajima case: Kuroda has his debut there yet Conan still has his doubts about Yamato.
So, no, the first person/s to fit RUM's description were the three suspects of the scriptwriter murder case
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Ooh.! I missed it ! glad you told me Thanks spimer But still since we were told of the fake eye we can directly remove the 3 suspects of the first case.
Meaning only yamato and kuroda would be the first to be descriptive. despite that i know we should include them according to what i said but still with that fake eye also in the window we cannot be so sure with the 3 suspects.
Meaning only yamato and kuroda would be the first to be descriptive. despite that i know we should include them according to what i said but still with that fake eye also in the window we cannot be so sure with the 3 suspects.
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In the beginning of the case Haibara told Conan about the descriptions she'd heard of RUM
And then she remembered about the fake eye thing
But Yamato doesn't have a fake eye, he got an eye injured: RUM is supposed to be able to use both eyes normally, meaning he has nothing covering it.
So you needn't look for men with an injured eye, it could be a man with normal eyes who doesn't stand out at all.
And then she remembered about the fake eye thing
But Yamato doesn't have a fake eye, he got an eye injured: RUM is supposed to be able to use both eyes normally, meaning he has nothing covering it.
So you needn't look for men with an injured eye, it could be a man with normal eyes who doesn't stand out at all.
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The one thing about Rums descriptions is that they are rather vague. Depending on how you read into certain situations, you can intemperate different things as meaning different things.
The artificial eye thing aside, here is a description of Kojima Genji from the DCW Wiki that has essentially remained unchanged since it was typed back in 2010, before we even knew of Rum.
"Genji Kojima prides himself of being a true edokko ("child of Tokyo"): He has a strong sense of justice, is confrontational, loves sushi and speaks with a distinct, old-fashioned dialect. He can be harsh and demanding, but he is actually very kind and caring."
Depending on how you interact with this character it would be actually rather easy to see him as a Strong man, a Feminine man, or an Old man.
The artificial eye thing aside, here is a description of Kojima Genji from the DCW Wiki that has essentially remained unchanged since it was typed back in 2010, before we even knew of Rum.
"Genji Kojima prides himself of being a true edokko ("child of Tokyo"): He has a strong sense of justice, is confrontational, loves sushi and speaks with a distinct, old-fashioned dialect. He can be harsh and demanding, but he is actually very kind and caring."
Depending on how you interact with this character it would be actually rather easy to see him as a Strong man, a Feminine man, or an Old man.
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Which is why I'm wondering if Shiho/Ai will tell Shinichi/Conan the specifics of the stories she heard about Rum from the other BO members. Maybe we could work things out from that.jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:The one thing about Rums descriptions is that they are rather vague. Depending on how you read into certain situations, you can intemperate different things as meaning different things.
The artificial eye thing aside, here is a description of Kojima Genji from the DCW Wiki that has essentially remained unchanged since it was typed back in 2010, before we even knew of Rum.
"Genji Kojima prides himself of being a true edokko ("child of Tokyo"): He has a strong sense of justice, is confrontational, loves sushi and speaks with a distinct, old-fashioned dialect. He can be harsh and demanding, but he is actually very kind and caring."
Depending on how you interact with this character it would be actually rather easy to see him as a Strong man, a Feminine man, or an Old man.
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Yeah, I think Shiho/Ai will do that but I do hope, too, that there would be other information about RUM that will come from Kir/Hidemi. If not, it would also be nice if Bourbon/Amuro is the one who would provide the next pieces of clue about RUM.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Which is why I'm wondering if Shiho/Ai will tell Shinichi/Conan the specifics of the stories she heard about Rum from the other BO members. Maybe we could work things out from that.jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:The one thing about Rums descriptions is that they are rather vague. Depending on how you read into certain situations, you can intemperate different things as meaning different things.
The artificial eye thing aside, here is a description of Kojima Genji from the DCW Wiki that has essentially remained unchanged since it was typed back in 2010, before we even knew of Rum.
"Genji Kojima prides himself of being a true edokko ("child of Tokyo"): He has a strong sense of justice, is confrontational, loves sushi and speaks with a distinct, old-fashioned dialect. He can be harsh and demanding, but he is actually very kind and caring."
Depending on how you interact with this character it would be actually rather easy to see him as a Strong man, a Feminine man, or an Old man.
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Didnt Akai say in the beach/flashback case that they never found the Akai dad's body? Couldn't he have easily faked his own death. He said "consider me dead and go to Japan" Right?DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Heiji's issue, in that scenario, would be if he could go against his father, because this would be far beyond what happened in the Tiger Scroll case (File 317–File 321/Episode 263)—he wouldn't lose his sense of justice and turn against Shinichi/Conan, but he'd probably have trouble dealing with the fact that his father's been on the wrong side all this time.Nemomon wrote:And so we would have Heiji fighting againt or alongside Conan. I wonder which one would be better.
Although, the idea of real Rum being in coma and Tsutomu replacing him could work. Like father, like son. Since Shuichi can do miracles on a stick, I'm pretty sure Tsutomu can do them too. Since it's been years since Hyoue fell into coma, he can use this as excuse as of why he doesn't remember things. People from the BO also long ago forgot all the details about Rum. Ideal situation for Tsutomu to infiltrate the BO. Wonder how people would like this idea.
I think people would be opposed to it mainly because they think Gosho would execute it poorly... and also because he went and wrote that postcard (2015 – "Akai's father is already... it's a secret (laughs)."), thus telegraphing a twist to us.
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@sanchai95: he did say that indeed.
Are you trying to suggest that he might be related to RUM? Yet, based on his visuals, he doesn't match any of RUM's descriptions (old, muscular, femenine) nor matches the figure of the enigmatic bodyguard "Asaka" who might be a woman if that "soul detective" Hatto wasn't given fake info yet Mary's behavior seems to confirm that info as true.
In my opinion, Gosho is trying too obviously to set up RUM red herrings and I think RUM himself is yet to appear but I could be wrong.
Time will tell, though.
Are you trying to suggest that he might be related to RUM? Yet, based on his visuals, he doesn't match any of RUM's descriptions (old, muscular, femenine) nor matches the figure of the enigmatic bodyguard "Asaka" who might be a woman if that "soul detective" Hatto wasn't given fake info yet Mary's behavior seems to confirm that info as true.
In my opinion, Gosho is trying too obviously to set up RUM red herrings and I think RUM himself is yet to appear but I could be wrong.
Time will tell, though.
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Re: What's the identity of Rum?
I have a feeling that Kuroda is related to the Koji Haneda case...but it doesn't mean that he has to be RUM
like he was one of the people investigating the case but got caught in an accident and went to coma...just a speculation though

like he was one of the people investigating the case but got caught in an accident and went to coma...just a speculation though


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Speculation's pretty much the name of the game, at this point.xLostChains wrote:I have a feeling that Kuroda is related to the Koji Haneda case...but it doesn't mean that he has to be RUM
like he was one of the people investigating the case but got caught in an accident and went to coma...just a speculation though![]()

Hyoue ended up in a coma 10 years ago; the Koji/Amanda double murder was 17 years ago... I presume the BO would want him dead for investigating, so why'd it take that long for them to try and do away with him by arranging an accident, 7 years after he started sticking his nose where they didn't want it?
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Re: What's the identity of Rum?
Maybe Kuroda was investigating a case and he doesn't understand himself what it was about, he just saw something.