*SPOILER FREE* Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-

[kyuuketsuki]

I've come up with a theory on the locked room thing...

Most chain door locks are welded together, and it would take far more than a 7 year old and a teenage girl, no matter how much martial arts she does, to break apart a chain link like that, and with the positioning of the one that broke, I don't think it is a coincidence.

The chain link in the middle of the opening broke, so my theory is that the culprit cut out a chain link, and then used another open link to close the chain up after the crime was committed from the outside. Depending on the gauge of the metal, it could have possibly been done without any tools.

[Akonyl]

I've come up with a theory on the locked room thing...

Most chain door locks are welded together, and it would take far more than a 7 year old and a teenage girl, no matter how much martial arts she does, to break apart a chain link like that, and with the positioning of the one that broke, I don't think it is a coincidence.

The chain link in the middle of the opening broke, so my theory is that the culprit cut out a chain link, and then used another open link to close the chain up after the crime was committed from the outside. Depending on the gauge of the metal, it could have possibly been done without any tools.

I dunno about most, but my brother pissed off our neighbors back when he was in middle school because he broke their chain lock once. Although in that case, it was the anchor point that tore off, not an actual breaking link, so it could still be suspicious.

[kyuuketsuki]

I've come up with a theory on the locked room thing...

Most chain door locks are welded together, and it would take far more than a 7 year old and a teenage girl, no matter how much martial arts she does, to break apart a chain link like that, and with the positioning of the one that broke, I don't think it is a coincidence.

The chain link in the middle of the opening broke, so my theory is that the culprit cut out a chain link, and then used another open link to close the chain up after the crime was committed from the outside. Depending on the gauge of the metal, it could have possibly been done without any tools.

I dunno about most, but my brother pissed off our neighbors back when he was in middle school because he broke their chain lock once. Although in that case, it was the anchor point that tore off, not an actual breaking link, so it could still be suspicious.

That is my point the link breaking is suspect. Wood is weaker than metal. The wood would give way first.

[cute Ran]

Really disliking how clueless Conan seems to be about the impending BO doom lately.

he's not oblivious, he's just keeping everyone in the dark from his amazing borg-catching plan and relaxing because everything's taken care of.

That's right He knows everything and also the identity of bourbon certainly 

Which is, in my view so now Okaya

[xpon]

I've come up with a theory on the locked room thing...

Most chain door locks are welded together, and it would take far more than a 7 year old and a teenage girl, no matter how much martial arts she does, to break apart a chain link like that, and with the positioning of the one that broke, I don't think it is a coincidence.

The chain link in the middle of the opening broke, so my theory is that the culprit cut out a chain link, and then used another open link to close the chain up after the crime was committed from the outside. Depending on the gauge of the metal, it could have possibly been done without any tools.

I dunno about most, but my brother pissed off our neighbors back when he was in middle school because he broke their chain lock once. Although in that case, it was the anchor point that tore off, not an actual breaking link, so it could still be suspicious.

That is my point the link breaking is suspect. Wood is weaker than metal. The wood would give way first.

gosho really draw that chain from many angle.... but no sign it was mess up beforehand.

[1Kaito]

Really disliking how clueless Conan seems to be about the impending BO doom lately.

he's not oblivious, he's just keeping everyone in the dark from his amazing borg-catching plan and relaxing because everything's taken care of.

See, I'm hoping something like that. Like he seems completely oblivious to anything BO related content and characters coming in for the past months, but when Scar Akai, Okiya, Amuro, Sera and Gin and Vodka are all in one place and Haibara's freaking out, we'll see a panel with conan smiling and thinking to himself: All according to plan  *Kira Laugh*

[sonoci]

The thing that bothers me is that the guy is clearly alive on pg 12 and then by the time pg 13 comes (Sonoko is opening the door) he's dead.

I also think that the way the guy with the glasses comes out of his door is weird. He seems suspicious. I don't have any ideas on how yet, but I'm going to put my bets on the glasses guy being the murderer.

[James Moriarty]

Well she doesn't tell anything to Conan so I think it's pretty understandable he does the same. I wouldn't tell everything to someone who is obviously unwilling to tell me anything.

Well Conan and Ai are always secretive about anything regarding the BO. They don't talk much about that. Or at least not for us to see

And that point with the victim being alive a few moments before he's found bothered me too. Though everyone shown in that few moments is quite suspicious :S

[kyuuketsuki]

I've come up with a theory on the locked room thing...

Most chain door locks are welded together, and it would take far more than a 7 year old and a teenage girl, no matter how much martial arts she does, to break apart a chain link like that, and with the positioning of the one that broke, I don't think it is a coincidence.

The chain link in the middle of the opening broke, so my theory is that the culprit cut out a chain link, and then used another open link to close the chain up after the crime was committed from the outside. Depending on the gauge of the metal, it could have possibly been done without any tools.

I dunno about most, but my brother pissed off our neighbors back when he was in middle school because he broke their chain lock once. Although in that case, it was the anchor point that tore off, not an actual breaking link, so it could still be suspicious.

That is my point the link breaking is suspect. Wood is weaker than metal. The wood would give way first.

gosho really draw that chain from many angle.... but no sign it was mess up beforehand.

Doesn't need to be shown messed up, just not welded. It is very easy with some fabric and a pair of pliers to create a chain link with no visible damage. The other tricks to create a locked room with a chain have been done already too, so I'd like to think the Gosho would try something new.

[zek]

I think Conan's just keeping calm because he doesn't want to panic.

I doubt hes clueless about the passengers, hes just trying to protect Ai by making sure she doesn't show fear and get separated, as that'd be the point where an attack would most likely occur.

[kuro_shiro]

*thinking from scratch*
a sealed room is one where a room is sealed from inside(or made to look like it) with no apparant way for murderer to escape

it is of following types

1)sealed from outside
in this case room is locked from outside but by using thread or a trick to make it appear that it was locked from outside(all thread tricks)

2)escape route
in this case , murderer locks room from inside and leaves the room by a hidden door or something like that.(shonen tantei murder case, file 562-566)

3)act like outside
in this case murderer is present in room when "sealed" room is broken into from outside and murderer pretends to come from outside(heiji and kazuha in tokya,file 211-214)

4)murder from outside
in this case murderer acts from outside and victims him/her self seals the room from inside.(file 147-149 &&file 102-104)

5)sealing by lying
in this case murderer is one of the discoverer and he "seals" the room by lying about certain conditions or act as it room was sealed and then brake into.(file 508-510)

6)suicide
lets face it ,its impossible that this case is suicide(???)

7)unknown way
it is unknown , so i don't know .this case may or may not exist .it is is only present to signify that there might be more ways to do it


in mystery train ,case 3 and 5 are downright impossible

case 1 demands privacy which is hard to find in a train cabin especially when conductor was present and people were coming out.
so i rule it out as well

case 4 can be possible only if we consider that victim was made to peep from window and shot down(as in file102-104)
i don't think gosho will repeat it

case 6 definitely can't be

so it leaves only case 2 and case  7

when it comes to case 2 , orient murder was also done via case 2 , and since train was in tunnel ,it just may be possible to escape via window
or communication door (if belltree had one)

[ProfParanoia]

Well she doesn't tell anything to Conan so I think it's pretty understandable he does the same. I wouldn't tell everything to someone who is obviously unwilling to tell me anything.

Well the difference being is that she does it so he doesn't do something dumb, and he doesn't so she can't keep him from doing something dumb.

Plus, Ai doesn't hire people to stalk Conan.

[pofa]

Well she doesn't tell anything to Conan so I think it's pretty understandable he does the same. I wouldn't tell everything to someone who is obviously unwilling to tell me anything.

I don't think Conan's motivation is spite, since that would be suicidal. "You don't tell anything helpful to me so I won't tell anything helpful to you and we can both just run in blind and die. That'll show us."

I agree with Prof, I think he just thinks he's "got this covered" and it's for Haibara's "own good" that he's not telling her things. Whereas she's just scared he's going to get himself blown up (plus if Haibara told everything she knew the plot would have to advance before Gosho was ready for it to).

[Kleene Onigiri]

looks funny when prof and pofa post after each other XD

I think Gosho doesn't show the reader what conan knows. So he probably knows more than we get to see XD

[ProfParanoia]

looks funny when prof and pofa post after each other XD

I think Gosho doesn't show the reader what conan knows. So he probably knows more than we get to see XD

Basically this, since it's really how the whole arc has been.

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