Anokata theory: The boss may be...

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what if Gosho really don't know how to end the series.. he is just putting random characters, putting random backgrounds then just wait for us fans talk about it and try to deduce which is which.. then Gosho is going to read our theories and then he will try to make a new and sensible story out of our theories.. :P
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Hey guys have u ever thought of genichiro kaneshiro as the boss?
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ShinRan36 wrote: Hey guys have u ever thought of genichiro kaneshiro as the boss?
It pops up from time to time then goes out popularity as the only evidence is that he is old, noticed and thought Conan was smart, the Black Org had a background cameo at the beginning of the case, and the Night Baron virus was involved in the case. His apparent reason to score the virus is it wrecked a girl dating simulator he was writing. It usually goes out of popularity as that specific guy doesn't show up again, although maybe a relative of his does in Solitary Island of the Princess and the Dragon King's Palace (Servitor of Goosoh).

The theory is doing its rounds on the German forum right now.
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I have a concept that randomly occurred to me that I'd like to share.

What if Anokata is multiple people?

Anokata can only be reached by email. His voice isn't heard, making it possible for multiple people to impersonate Anokata. Also, through this method, it would allow that, over the years, the title could be passed on without needing to really alert anyone. Thus, there could be a change without notifying anyone, which could be vital in keeping everyone's trust. When a crime boss dies, the members more loyal to the old boss would naturally be a bit wary of the replacement and put incredibly high expectations on them.

Of course, this is a mere thought, barely even enough to constitute a crack theory. It has flaws—namely, how was it pulled off in the days before email, though that applies to anonymously contacting Anokata in general. However, I thought I'd throw it out there anyway to hear what you guys think of the possibility. If anything, it's certainly interesting to consider and adds entire realms of possibilities.
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Fennec wrote: I have a concept that randomly occurred to me that I'd like to share.

What if Anokata is multiple people?

Anokata can only be reached by email. His voice isn't heard, making it possible for multiple people to impersonate Anokata. Also, through this method, it would allow that, over the years, the title could be passed on without needing to really alert anyone. Thus, there could be a change without notifying anyone, which could be vital in keeping everyone's trust. When a crime boss dies, the members more loyal to the old boss would naturally be a bit wary of the replacement and put incredibly high expectations on them.

Of course, this is a mere thought, barely even enough to constitute a crack theory. It has flaws—namely, how was it pulled off in the days before email, though that applies to anonymously contacting Anokata in general. However, I thought I'd throw it out there anyway to hear what you guys think of the possibility. If anything, it's certainly interesting to consider and adds entire realms of possibilities.
It would be interesting, sure enough; but not fair for the readers.

And not really original. 20th/21st Century Boys already did the succession thing with Friend.
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Hi guys, I'm on page 9 and still reading all your comments and theories about who anokata might be. Well a thought suddenly came to me, I'm not sure if this has already been done, but has anyone tried playing around with the kanji. Maybe not for the literal translation but how about what the characters LOOK like they stand for. For example, like in the episode when Ran is figuring out the password for Conan's phone then she remembers Shinichi saying what numbers look like in words which is how he remembers a licence plate numbers. I know sometimes the characters in kanji look like the words they stand for, like the symbol for 'GATE' sort of looks like a gate, so maybe there's something in the word 'anokata' that we haven't realised yet, but would obviously be something only conan can probably see when he tells us 'that one truth.'
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secretbeauty101 wrote: Hi guys, I'm on page 9 and still reading all your comments and theories about who anokata might be. Well a thought suddenly came to me, I'm not sure if this has already been done, but has anyone tried playing around with the kanji. Maybe not for the literal translation but how about what the characters LOOK like they stand for. For example, like in the episode when Ran is figuring out the password for Conan's phone then she remembers Shinichi saying what numbers look like in words which is how he remembers a licence plate numbers. I know sometimes the characters in kanji look like the words they stand for, like the symbol for 'GATE' sort of looks like a gate, so maybe there's something in the word 'anokata' that we haven't realised yet, but would obviously be something only conan can probably see when he tells us 'that one truth.'
Unlikely. The phrase That Man is just used for obscurity, I don't think it's the boss's actual codename.

And if it were...

Anokata translates to That Man.
Sonoko could be interpreted as That Child.

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We don't know if "anokata" is actually a MAN, after all.
I have a feeling that person would turn out to be a woman.
My reason?
Vermouth being anokata's favorite, yet she was all over Gin in volume 29, The Invisible Fear. If Vermouth was that man's favorite due to sexual reasons, I doubt she would still be in a  "sexual relationship" with Gin.
Therefore, I think anokata can be a female, and in fact, a bestfriend of Vermouth's.
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I doubt Vermouth is that man's favorite for sexual reasons. She's a highly experienced, very efficient, and very deadly agent. She's also quick and undetectable. If I had an agent like that on my side, I'd keep her really damn close.

(it's a shame she's not 100% loyal, though~)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote: Hey guys have u ever thought of genichiro kaneshiro as the boss?
It pops up from time to time then goes out popularity as the only evidence is that he is old, noticed and thought Conan was smart, the Black Org had a background cameo at the beginning of the case, and the Night Baron virus was involved in the case. His apparent reason to score the virus is it wrecked a girl dating simulator he was writing. It usually goes out of popularity as that specific guy doesn't show up again, although maybe a relative of his does in Solitary Island of the Princess and the Dragon King's Palace (Servitor of Goosoh).

The theory is doing its rounds on the German forum right now.
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caniran wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote: Hey guys have u ever thought of genichiro kaneshiro as the boss?
It pops up from time to time then goes out popularity as the only evidence is that he is old, noticed and thought Conan was smart, the Black Org had a background cameo at the beginning of the case, and the Night Baron virus was involved in the case. His apparent reason to score the virus is it wrecked a girl dating simulator he was writing. It usually goes out of popularity as that specific guy doesn't show up again, although maybe a relative of his does in Solitary Island of the Princess and the Dragon King's Palace (Servitor of Goosoh).

The theory is doing its rounds on the German forum right now.
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The boss's name appeared in the manga in or before 551 if Gosho was truthful

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This seems to be the main anokata page recently, so I guess this goes here.

I did some researching around and figured out that 551 (Nail and Snake V53.8) is the last file published before Gosho said in an interview that the boss's name has appeared in the manga. 551 was published January 4, 2006 in Shounen Sunday issue #5-6 of 2006.

552 files is still an absurdly ridiculous amount of material to look through, so this isn't very helpful.
Spoiler: The boss's name interview for those who don't know about it
2006年朝日新聞夕刊のインタビュー記事より (2006年1月13日(金))
From 2006 Asahi Evening Newspaper interview article (Friday January 13, 2006)
実はボスの名前は既に原作のどこかにでている。捜してみて下さい。…
In fact, the boss' name already appeared somewhere in the manga. Please see if you can find it. . . .
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Well take the synopsis of the files and you might have the clue needed. I'll mostly take the cases that is heavily on the BO up front in the search or at least where a BO member appears. I would check the files between 429 (Episode 345) and 552.
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Crack theory:
Anokata was originally Akemi Miyano, but everyone hated her so they managed to make some kind of Coup d'etat with Shuichi Akai pulling the strings. After betraying his fiance, he hated his actions, so he asked Kir to kill him. Therefore, Anokata is NO ONE.
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Cider wrote: Vermouth being anokata's favorite, yet she was all over Gin in volume 29, The Invisible Fear. If Vermouth was that man's favorite due to sexual reasons, I doubt she would still be in a  "sexual relationship" with Gin.
El Huesudo II wrote: I doubt Vermouth is that man's favorite for sexual reasons. She's a highly experienced, very efficient, and very deadly agent. She's also quick and undetectable. If I had an agent like that on my side, I'd keep her really damn close.

(it's a shame she's not 100% loyal, though~)
Vermouth and Gin have a weird relationship...she tries to poison him, while knowing he would find the poison so maybe not poison him but just to tease him.  Then she tease him about the beautiful singer and makes sexual innuendos all over the place.  I have a feeling they're a casual fling if even that (more like Vermouth trolling Gin and Gin trolling her by not reacting and not listening to her).  Gin doesn't trust her at all, for good reason.  She wants the BO be destroyed afterall.

From Gin's relationship with Vermouth (doesn't like her) I think that's why the boss keeps Vermouth close (okay you did enough trolling, get back here). I think Vermouth is "the favorite" for a special reason related to APTX.  She not loyal, emotional and Gin is more efficient and brilliant.  However even he doesn't know about APTX (or else he would have found Shiho by now).
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