Discussion thread: Detective Conan 969-971

[KaitoRizu]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

Spoiler:

Nope, the title is:

Kanji: 試着室で水着 (はぁと)
Romaji: Shitsu de Mizugi (Hāto)

[KaitoRizu]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

Spoiler:

Nope, the title is:

Kanji: 試着室で水着 (はぁと)
Romaji: Shitsu de Mizugi (Hāto)

Spoiler:

I know what was written in the spoiler, what I meant was: in the end of the nue case when Momiji appeared she had a heart emoji at the of her speech but when we got the spoiler it said "(heart)" instead of putting the emoji or writing "<3" so I though this could be the same...

[k11chi]

Spoiler:

Man I can't wait to see the father Akai

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

Spoiler:

Nope, the title is:

Kanji: 試着室で水着 (はぁと)
Romaji: Shitsu de Mizugi (Hāto)

Spoiler:

I know what was written in the spoiler, what I meant was: in the end of the nue case when Momiji appeared she had a heart emoji at the of her speech but when we got the spoiler it said "(heart)" instead of putting the emoji or writing "<3" so I though this could be the same...

Spoiler:

It had an actual heart (image/symbol) at the end of her speech bubble. Here? That's how you write "heart" in kana. It's an image you're referring to, in 962, while in 969, it's actual text.

The reason I brought this up is because if there is a DC file with the title, _________ (_____), you'd see the (_____) part like this:

_________ (Part I/1/One)

In this file, it's not a "Part 1/2/3/4" inside the (_____) but an actual word, so I speculated 970, and 971, even, will have a (_____) part, and the words inside each will connect to the word inside the (_____) of 969.

[KaitoRizu]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

Spoiler:

Nope, the title is:

Kanji: 試着室で水着 (はぁと)
Romaji: Shitsu de Mizugi (Hāto)

Spoiler:

I know what was written in the spoiler, what I meant was: in the end of the nue case when Momiji appeared she had a heart emoji at the of her speech but when we got the spoiler it said "(heart)" instead of putting the emoji or writing "<3" so I though this could be the same...

Spoiler:

It had an actual heart (image/symbol) at the end of her speech bubble. Here? That's how you write "heart" in kana. It's an image you're referring to, in 962, while in 969, it's actual text.

The reason I brought this up is because if there is a DC file with the title, _________ (_____), you'd see the (_____) part like this:

_________ (Part I/1/One)

In this file, it's not a "Part 1/2/3/4" inside the (_____) but an actual word, so I speculated 970, and 971, even, will have a (_____) part, and the words inside each will connect to the word inside the (_____) of 969.

Spoiler:

I wasn't referring to the speech bubble in the manga I was referring to the text spoiler of that chapter which wrote it in the same way and back then I remember someone talking about it, here check it out for yourself: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13084&start=30#p865767
And sorry if I wasn't clear enough...

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

Also, any ideas as to the "Heart" part of the title, or are we just going to have to wait until next file to see if there's a pattern? I don't recall titles like... _________ (_____)... being common in DC.

I think that this is just a heart emoji not a word within barracks

Spoiler:

Nope, the title is:

Kanji: 試着室で水着 (はぁと)
Romaji: Shitsu de Mizugi (Hāto)

Spoiler:

I know what was written in the spoiler, what I meant was: in the end of the nue case when Momiji appeared she had a heart emoji at the of her speech but when we got the spoiler it said "(heart)" instead of putting the emoji or writing "<3" so I though this could be the same...

Spoiler:

It had an actual heart (image/symbol) at the end of her speech bubble. Here? That's how you write "heart" in kana. It's an image you're referring to, in 962, while in 969, it's actual text.

The reason I brought this up is because if there is a DC file with the title, _________ (_____), you'd see the (_____) part like this:

_________ (Part I/1/One)

In this file, it's not a "Part 1/2/3/4" inside the (_____) but an actual word, so I speculated 970, and 971, even, will have a (_____) part, and the words inside each will connect to the word inside the (_____) of 969.

Spoiler:

I wasn't referring to the speech bubble in the manga I was referring to the text spoiler of that chapter which wrote it in the same way and back then I remember someone talking about it, here check it out for yourself: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13084&start=30#p865767
And sorry if I wasn't clear enough...

Spoiler:

It's all good.

I looked at the post you linked to, and this was the only reference to "heart:"

It seems like Sonoko suggests on page 1 it could've been Kaitou Kid who came to steal her heart.

Has nothing to do with the title of that file. My point is that this word is used in the (_____) part of the title of 969. I've rarely, if ever, seen a word in the (_____) part of a title of a DC file, hence why I took notice of it and pointed it out.

One last thing—is this anal, on my part? Absolutely. So I hope I'm not getting under your skin, with this.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

@DCU, its a heart symbol. It was last time, it will most likely be again this time.

(images pulled from 2ch text spoilers and spimers translations of nue case)

[DCUniverseAficionado]

@DCU, its a heart symbol. It was last time, it will most likely be again this time.

(images pulled from 2ch text spoilers and spimers translations of nue case)

Actually, if that's the case, then this is even more unprecedented, in terms of DC file titles. This might be the first time a symbol's been used in the title.

[KaitoRizu]

And what Jimmy said is the exact thing I was referring to

[Kor]

Spoiler:

I can't help but feel a bit slightly suspicious that Flashback Boy there isn't Shuukichi. Not only does he look a bit too young to be an 18 years old Shuukichi, we also know what Shuukichi looked like at several points in his life.


Maybe Gosho screwed up the design and it really is Shuukichi... or maybe it's a totally new character and mid bro might not even be with them in that flashback for all I know.
In 2ch there are also several people who seem unconvinced it's Shuukichi and it might be a new character.

[k11chi]

Spoiler:

Yes this is rather weird (as Gosho made a point out of showing 18 yo Shukichi).
Though his body structure may be closer to that of a child I guess as he's not physically all that.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Actually, if that's the case, then this is even more unprecedented, in terms of DC file titles. This might be the first time a symbol's been used in the title.

I feel like code symbols have been used in titles before in the past, but for the life of me all I can think of at the moment is the file titled with the circle, X, triangle and square from the "Meaning of X" case involving Jodie. The symbols had tiny katakana letter above them as "maru, batsu, sankaku, shikaku". I think some cases have also had ampersands ( & ) in them rather than the japanese particle "to" which carries the same meaning. But I guess this has gotten a bit far off topic.
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Some interesting comments about the spoiler images from the spoiler box (probably already mentioned in another comment)

Spoiler:

The male looking kid that seems to be with the Akai family in the flashback panels seem to look similar to Shuukichi but his age doesn't really fit with what we already know about Shuukcihi. The middle brother's age must be rather close to 28 due to the ages of the his classmates in the Red Woman case, so 10 years ago the middle brother would have been 18. In addition we have also seen an image of Shuukichi from 10 years ago when he met Yumi when he was 18. Since the kid in the flashback seems to be younger than what we have seen of 16-18 year old students in high school in Gosho's art style, the kid may be someone else who is apart of the Akai family. Or maybe even this could be Kohji who might have shrunk from APTX 17 years ago and he has had time to grow out his hair some (Unlikely)?? Or even more unlikely, the Akai father took APTX as well?? The phrasing in the text spoilers seems to allow for the possibility that they did not actually all appear at the same time, which would be similar to how Ran remembered images of Shinichi, Akai, and Sharron from different points in her trip all at the same time, so there is also the possibility that he is just some other random kid who is tied together with the story in the flashback.

[Kor]

Spoiler:

Also also, quite a while back, I posted this speculation in the cbox that might be somewhat relevant. Maybe MG's shrinking is more similar to a Benjamin Button thing. She ages back, only slower. Basically, she may have taken the drug years ago (or at least some version of the drug) but instead of regressing back immediately, she regresses bit by bit as time passes.
The mindset behind this is that her apparent age is different from Conan and Haibs (which might as well be due to some other factor for all I know) and also because she's sickly while this effect isn't a thing with Conan and Haibs (but again, this could also have some other reason).

Not sure how much I'd bet on the above to be true, but it's still a possibility.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

Here's 18-year old Shukichi (File 900 and File 946) and the boy with Mary from File 969:



We have no idea how tall the boy from File 969 is, in comparison to 7-year-old Shinichi and Ran, but he looks shorter than an adult-sized Mary, his shoulders look really slim, and his hair doesn't part like Shukichi's, though his hair is pretty close to Shukichi's. Even the words the boy speak don't sound like something 18-year-old Shukichi would say.

At this point, here are some options:

[*]The boy is Shukichi.

[*]The boy is the middle brother (not Shukichi), making his debut in this case (and perhaps the next one, even more so), and Shukichi is just a shogi player who Mary and Shuichi/Subaru are fans of.

[*]The boy is not the middle brother (either Shukichi or a new character) but a person who will only appear during this flashback.

The marriage registration form from 947, though, seems to be the strongest indicator that Shukichi is the middle brother—it is very unlikely Shukichi would happen to have a father with the surname "Akai" and a mother with the surname of "Sera," and not be Mary's son and Shuichi's and Masumi's brother.

Thus, I'm behind either the first option, or the third option.

The boy may never have stood in front of Mary, like he is, in that one panel—Shinichi's/Conan's internal monologue just had them together because he already recognizes Shuichi, but Mary and the boy are people he doesn't recognize yet. Maybe the boy and Mary were never together and never met, and each of their words were from interactions Shinichi/Conan had with them, each, separately. We lack the context that the next case (in all probability, the next case will be the Golden Apple of the Rum arc, as this case is the Chinatown Déjà Vu in the Rain) will eventually provide.