Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-1017

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-1017

Postby Kor » June 1st, 2018, 5:58 am

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As expected, it's Chiba/Naeko stuff. On the bright side it's maybe Chiba/Naeko stuff for the last time...?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Spimer » June 1st, 2018, 6:49 am

Well...
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No surprises. We'd all predicted that it'd be Chiba x Naeko.

Insofar there doesn't seem to be a connection with the previous case, makes you wonder if we'll get one at all or it's postponed until the next one.

We have no "incident" insofar from the pics but there'll probably be some big deal at some point.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Kor » June 1st, 2018, 6:40 pm

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Swagnarok » June 1st, 2018, 11:12 pm

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Swagnarok » June 6th, 2018, 11:28 am

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If Chiba actually thinks Naeko looks like a middle-schooler (roughly ages 12-15) then that right there is the death knell for any prospects of them being in a relationship.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby MoonRaven » June 6th, 2018, 1:32 pm

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I really don't like how Naeko in general is depicted. Her room, her dream, her hairstyle... No wonder Chiba said so... She acts like a school girl. A generic shoujo manga protagonist and it really stands out in DC...

I'm not usually this negative with characters but this just irks me so much.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Valentin » June 7th, 2018, 5:26 pm

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Out of curiosity, I searched the German iBooks Store to take a peek at the first releases of Detektiv Conan WEEKLY. Along with the results came surprisingly much information:

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As I can hardly imagine them making this up just like that, I guess we might be looking at the official schedule for the following weeks. While the absence of File 1017 is certainly peculiar, the numbering suggests that it will be out on July 4. Altogether, this program would be in line with the “long series” that has been promised, and the current case would occupy seven weeks.

Converted to the main site’s format, the preview looks like this:

    6/06—File 1013 (SS 28)
    6/13—File 1014 (SS 29)
    6/20—File 1015 (SS 30)
    6/27—File 1016 (SS 31)
    7/04—File 1017 (SS 32) [missing in the search results]
    7/11—File 1018 (SS 33)
    7/18—File 1019 (SS 34)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Iwamoto Yuri » June 7th, 2018, 7:54 pm

Valentin wrote:
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Out of curiosity, I searched the German iBooks Store to take a peek at the first releases of Detektiv Conan WEEKLY. Along with the results came surprisingly much information:

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As I can hardly imagine them making this up just like that, I guess we might be looking at the official schedule for the following weeks. While the absence of File 1017 is certainly peculiar, the numbering suggests that it will be out on July 4. Altogether, this program would be in line with the “long series” that has been promised, and the current case would occupy seven weeks.

Converted to the main site’s format, the preview looks like this:

    6/06—File 1013 (SS 28)
    6/13—File 1014 (SS 29)
    6/20—File 1015 (SS 30)
    6/27—File 1016 (SS 31)
    7/04—File 1017 (SS 32) [missing in the search results]
    7/11—File 1018 (SS 33)
    7/18—File 1019 (SS 34)

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That or they made assumptions. Websites like these tend to you know.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Fujiwara » June 12th, 2018, 2:37 am

English translation of file 1014:

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[p1]

File 1014: Attending the crime scene


The targets are police officers?! The Metropolitan Police Department trembles— Chapter 2 of the new series!!!!

[p2]

Side note: Happily going to school while following the rules!

*honk*

DB: Hm?

Yumi: Hey kids!

Yumi: How well-behaved you all are, crossing the street with your arms raised!

DB: Yesterday we learned about traffic rules from Naeko-san, so afterwards we researched a lot about them!

DB: Children are small and hard to see so they should raise their arm, right?

Yumi: Oh? Miike tought you…?

DB: Japan’s traffic signs are inspired by England’s, right?

Yumi: Y-yes…

Yumi: Did you know that, Miike… ?

Naeko: Ah, yes!

Naeko: That's how I learned it...

Operator: Calling all units!

[p3]

Operator: We received a report that the corpse of a woman that was beaten to death has been found in Beika East Park!

Operator: All units should...

Yumi: No way...

Yumi: That's nearby!

Yumi: We should get to the crime scene and secure it!

Naeko: R-right, we need to keep away the onlookers and everything.

Mitsuhiko: We still have time before the first lesson, don't we?

Genta: Should we go too?

Ayumi: Let's go, let's go!

Conan: Geez, I guess it can't be helped...

Conan: We'll only take a quick look, understood?

DB: Yeah!

Haibara (thoughts): The one who wants to go the crime scene the most is clearly you, Kudou-kun...

Naeko: N-

Naeko: No way...

[p4]

Naeko: M-Momosaki-san?!

Naeko: Momosaki-san?!

Naeko: Momosaki-san?!

Takagi & Satou: I thought she looked familiar... so she was a police officer...

Yumi: Yes...

Yumi: Just like us, she was part of the traffic division...

Yumi: Sergeant Momosaki Touko...

Yumi: But why would a Judo 3rd dan holder like her...

Naeko: *sob* *sob*

Yumi: Speaking of which... you said something about going out for karaoke with Momosaki-san and a few others last night, no?

Naeko: Y-yes...

[p5]

Naeko: I-I got really drunk...

Naeko: And the only thing I remember is Yagi-san, who was with us, bringing me home...

Satou: Which Karaoke place?

Naeko: Karaoke Beika in Beika's 4th district... The one opposite the planetarium that is being remodelled...

Takagi: But that's right around the corner!

Satou: Then she was likely attacked when went to use the toilet in the park on the way home...

Takagi: B-but...

Takagi: The suspect must be quite the expert, considering that they beat a Judo 3rd dan holder to death...

Satou: Either that or...

Satou: They knew she was a police officer...

Satou: And had prepared a way to deal with her...

Satou: In any case, the only clue we have so far is this bent 100 yen coin...

Satou: That was lying next to the body...

Takagi: Is this the act of someone with a grudge against money...?

Satou: That's something we can only decide after questioning people and gathering information...

Conan: No...

[p6]

Conan: That's not the only clue!

Satou: Co-

Satou: Conan-kun?!

Conan: Look

Conan: On this woman's left hand...

Conan: Even though the index finger is completely fine...

Conan: The middle, ring and little fingers have scratches on the first joint!

Conan: And if we turn the hand...

Conan: The lower part of the palm is also scratched...

Conan: Yet there's no sign of her body having beeen dragged, which means...

Conan: Originally, her left hand was positioned on the ground like this…

Conan: But someone kicked the hand or something similar…

Conan: And it moved towards her lower body, causing scratches like that. Don't you think?

[p7]

Satou: So that means she was pointing somewhere...

Satou: In order to tell us something?

Satou: But where on earth?

Conan: Look at the finger tip!

Conan: There's a bit of blood on it, right?

Satou: Y-you're right...

Conan: Which means...

Conan: This woman probably thought that, even if she pointed somewhere... the culprit would likely erase the clue... so she left a hint that couldn't be erased, with her own blood...

Conan: Ah!

Conan: Look!

Conan: There's still a mark where the bloody finger touched!

Conan: In other words, the place she pointed to...

Conan: Was actually over there...

[p8]

Satou: The swings?

Satou: What does tht mean?

Conan: N-no idea...

Takagi: More importantly, what are you guys doing here?

Conan: On the way to school we met Yumi-san and Naeko-san in their patrol car and heard the operator talk about the case...

Conan: And what about you? It seems like you arrived at the scene even before the mobile investigation unit...

Takagi: We happened to be on a stake-out nearby... And since we'd just finished the stake-out...

Yagi: Let me through! I am also a police officer!

Yumi: Hm?

Yumi: Yagi?

[p9]

Yagi: Yeah, that's right! Last night, Touko, Miike and I went out for Karaoke...

Yagi: And I separated from Touko outside the Karaoke place, saying I would bring home Miike, who was pretty wasted...

Yagi: Who'd have thought that it would turn out like this afterwards...

Satou: It seems like she went to use the toilet in the park...

Yagi: That can't be! Touko went to the toilet right before we left the Karaoke place...

Takagi: Then why did she come to this park?

Satou: Say...

Satou: Is there anyone who had a grudge against her?

Yagi: No...

Satou: Then do swings mean anything to you?

Yagi: S-swings?

Satou: It seems like she pointed at them on the brink of death...

Satou: At those swings...

Yagi: Ah, now that I think about it... it has nothing to do with swings, but...

Yagi: She was being followed by someone since about a week ago...

[p10]

Satou: What?

Satou: Did you think of something?

Yagi: No...

Yagi: I might be mistaken, so I'll get back to you once I'm sure...

Satou: I see...

Yagi: Well then, I should let our friends know about Touko...

Yumi: Yagi!

Yumi: It's your day off today... So please go home and rest!

Yagi: Yeah...

Yagi: I'll do that!

[p11]

Satou: Were the murdered Sergeant Momosaki and her...

Satou: Friends?

Yumi: Yes...

Yumi: Apparently they went to school together!

Naeko: Yumi-san as well, right? You even called again and again during Karaoke...

Yagi: You again Yumi? If you have time to call you should come and sing with us! Like back in high school ♪

Yumi: Ah...

Yumi: That's their old classmate Yumiko!

Yumi: If I recall correctly, she's a hostess in Kinza now or something...

Naeko: O-oh, is that so...?

Satou: More importantly, do you really have no idea who might have resented Sergeant Momosaki?

Yumi: Not really... since in our job, being resented is pretty much a given...

Yumi: Ah, but there were those three traffic offender that they brought in...

Yumi: Who kept complaining incessantly!

Satou: When was that? Where did the offences happen?

Yumi: It was a week ago, and all three offences took place at an intersection in Beika's 5th disctrict, I believe?

Conan (thoughts): If it's the 5th district it should be right next to the Mouri Detective Agency!

Satou: Do you remember those three people?

Yumi: Yes... Naeko and I helped out with the questioning...

Naeko: I took down the names as well!

[p12]

Naeko: The first one was Aono Kengo-san, who was fiddling with his smartphone while driving and also didn’t have his licence on him!

Naeko: The second was Akamine Manji-san…

Naeko: Who was riding his bike without a helmet and was going in the wrong direction!

Naeko: And the third one was Shiroyama Yuuzou-san…

Naeko: Who hadn’t fastened his seatbelt and was driving a car with an overdue inspection!

Naeko: All three were in a real hurry...

Naeko: And tried to get away before they could be ticketed, so they had to be forcibly taken in for obstruction of justice!

Satou: Those three do sound suspicious...

Satou: Especially since we just heard that someone had been following the victim since a week ago...

Conan (thoughts): Dammit! I thought the old man might have seen something... But a week ago he was on a trip with the neighborhood association...

Conan (thoughts): But wait… If it’s Amuro-san from Café Poirot…

Ayumi: Oy, Conan!

Ayumi: We need to go to school!

Conan: Ah, coming!

[p13]

Culprit: Great... Well done...

Culprit: I'm amazed you found this place...

Yagi: I heard about it from your co-worker!

Yagi: That you'd probably be here if you weren't at home...

Culprit: As expected, the Japanese police is outstanding…

Yagi: As I thought!

Yagi: You killed Touko, didn’t you?!

Culprit: It's outstanding and overly serious about following the rules... a real dung beetle...

Culprit: I have no business with insects... go home...

Yagi: What?

Yagi: Wait a mome--

*crackle*

[p14]

Yagi: Ugh

Yagi: Argh..

*beep* *beep* *beep* *beep*

*riiing*

Culprit (thoughts): Just...

Culprit (thoughts): one more...

[p15]

Operator: Calling all units!

Operator: We received a report that a woman bleeding from a head wound...

Operator: Has been found collapsed in a back alley in Haido's 3rd district!

Shiratori: That’s close to here, Chiba-kun!

Operator: Units stationed nearby and patrols that are in the vicinity are advised to head to the crime scene without delay!

Chiba: Let’s go!

*clack*

Shiratori: M-Managing officer Kuroda?!

Kuroda: Hm?

Shiratori: What are you doing here?

Kuroda: I just happened to pass by close to here…

Kuroda: So I decided to attend the crime scene.

Kuroda: Well, this makes it clear…

Chiba: Eh? What does?

[p16]

Kuroda: The victim is assistant inspector​ Yagi Shiori...

Kuroda: From the traffic division...

Kuroda: And next to the corpse...

Kuroda: There's a bent 100 yen coin stuck in her smartphone...

Kuroda: 100 yen coins have a cherry blossom engraved on them...

Kuroda: And the cherry blossom is the emblem of us, the Japanese police...

Shiratori: You don't mean this is...

Kuroda: Yes…

Kuroda: There’s no doubt…

Kuroda: This is a female police officer…

Kuroda: Serial murder case…

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Max1996 » June 19th, 2018, 6:53 am

Just my own thoughts, but I think what the first victim was trying to point towards is the sign, which, in this panel, is in the same direction as the swing. I don't know what it means, but, I think Yagi realized it.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby andrasb » June 20th, 2018, 6:01 pm

Regarding the possible criminal of serial murder case,

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I think it's Aono Kengo, the guy who was using smart-phone while driving and did not have his driver's license. Amuro mentioned, that he was in hurry because of his girlfriend was neurotic and was waiting for him. ((He was the one, who cried, which is a very honest feeling, exceptionally for a man. It's just a hunch, a first intuition...)) The police woman didn't believe him and they held back because of the incident. "They followed the rules." Here comes the assumption, that the girlfriend got depressed, and became suicide. Aono probably blamed the two police officer and the third one name Yumi(ko), with whom they planned to sing after the interrogation.
The first victim (Momosaki) wanted to show the swings, which symbolizes here the mood swing, which is the connection for the (motivation of) murder. Of course, that's rather an indirect clue, but the pieces fits together.

The problem is that the second victim (Yagi Shiori). We know thanks to Sato, that Shiori also wanted to show by looking somewhere. But this piece of info is lacking.


It's just an another theory, it could be that Max1996 is right. I would like to see the other's opinion. :)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Fennec » June 20th, 2018, 6:56 pm

Max1996 wrote:Just my own thoughts, but I think what the first victim was trying to point towards is the sign, which, in this panel, is in the same direction as the swing. I don't know what it means, but, I think Yagi realized it.

You're onto something here. Take a look at Yagi's death:

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You can see it there too. It's also pretty prominent in the next chapter when they're by her body, her head seems to be turned in its general direction. I doubt it's a coincidence. Looking up Japanese road signs, that one means "No Parking" which is red and blue. There's a similar sign that means "No Vehicles Allowed," but that has a white background, so the blue stands out to me.

To add onto that: the victims all have colors in their names. Aono Kengo, Akamine Manji, and Shiroyama Yuuzou. Blue, Red, White. Coincidence, maybe, but given this is Aoyama I seriously doubt it. Personally, I'm drawn by the background. The blue background seems to be pretty unique to Japanese road signs, and again, it's the only difference from the "no vehicles sign" sign which appeared in Miike's explanation about road signs in 1012. That could hint it's Aono for blue, or else draw attention to Shiroyama, since it has no white.

Food for thought at least. Either way, I suspect Miike's explanation about traffic signs was meant to be a hint for the case.

As for my own thoughts on the culprit:
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I'm going with Aono Kengo. Along with andrasb's point about him crying, he's the only one whose worry didn't involve a third party. Shiroyama's sister had a stalker, and Akamine's ex-wife had an abusive partner. We know from the neighbor in this chapter that a woman committed suicide by jumping off a building. She could have been pushed and murdered, but in that case the killer would logically target the person directly responsible for the death instead of the police who'd stopped him.

Also, on the note of Yumi: she's probably unconscious, but I'm pretty sure she chose to lie down on the outline to see where Yagi Shiori was looking before dying. Her pose matches up pretty closely with Yagi's aside from the position of her right hand.

...That said, if he actually kills her off, my respect for Aoyama will skyrocket. Given her relationship with Shuukichi and the subtle hints to the BO plot in this case with Kuroda's presence and Amuro's brief flashback, that would be one hell of a way to kickstart the end-game.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby Misztina » June 21st, 2018, 3:31 pm

The signs at both murder scenes are: It's prohibited to wait here (for a longer period of time). Maybe it is a sign of his hatred that he had to "wait" for the police women which should be prohibited. Just like the sign of the 100 yen which represents the police.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

Postby kkuuddoo » June 22nd, 2018, 2:20 am

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Everyone who mentioned the sign was right
I have personally noticed it, but didn't really think about it too much
the theories about it were quite interesting, appealing and probably right.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,013-101X

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