Importance of Ran as a character

[IHKF]

More air time for Ai

:D

and the DB! XD

:(

Oh come on now, they're cute and you know it. XD

Of course, you still have the second mini Ran to deal with but she'll have to grow up first so...

[phreak_91]

I agree as well.  That would be a very interesting several episodes.  Come on, give us a plot twist!

I agree with your opinions on the DBs too, IHFK!  It would be nice to see them get some actual air time in something other then a filler episode.

[IHKF]

I agree as well.  That would be a very interesting several episodes.  Come on, give us a plot twist!

I agree with your opinions on the DBs too, IHFK!  It would be nice to see them get some actual air time in something other then a filler episode.

I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts if she died it would be by Gin's hand after Vermouth refuses. Thus fueling the fire to end the BO and/or as Parkur said sending Conan into a spiraling depression. Either one would be so interesting but I think I'd prefer to see Conan hit rock bottom for once.

Thank you! x3 I really do wish they had bigger parts. Maybe a little scene where Anokata actually is revealed to "like" children and help them get something off the top shelf? XD (Somebody wrote a fanfiction where Mitsuhiko was the son of Anokata or something...) Or maybe the DB will witness a transaction between two BO members and tell Conan and Haibara about it or something...? IDK.

But Ran dying would be very interesting and it would probably be a big part of the organization. What reason would Gosho have to kill her if it weren't for the BO? (What reason would he have to put his life on the line if it weren't for a part of the plot? XD)

[angelranchan]

AixConan fans like discussing other pairings, how nice

[doublemoonlight]

you know its kinda funny like how people can bash Ran and get away with it while people who is trying to protect her are often called too much into fictional charecter... While people who bash other charecter is called charecter bashers...

[IHKF]

There was no character bashing. We simply stated that it would be interesting if she died and said that it would affect the story in a major way- which is one way she could be very important to the overall plot of things.

[angelranchan]

I'm just trying to...you know hate is bad to our health and its a sin... dakara,even she's a fictional character...

[IHKF]

I'm just trying to...you know hate is bad to our health and its a sin... dakara,even she's a fictional character...

There was no hate either.

And even so everybody is going to hate something and I refuse to believe it's bad for us to let our emotions out and don't bring religion into this thing now. XD

Nobody was hating Ran. We were just saying she would be VERY meaningful to the plot if killed.

[sonoci]

Basically it's what IHKF has said. phreak was a bit forward with his/her wording at first, but then explained what it was they were thinking.

The topic then got onto a hypothetical plot point that we would find interesting. What was being said was along the lines of "If this were to happen, what else could happen because of it?" not "This SHOULD happen because" In essence, it was some innocent wondering

you know its kinda funny like how people can bash Ran and get away with it while people who is trying to protect her are often called too much into fictional charecter... While people who bash other charecter is called charecter bashers...

This is a very... I'm not sure how to word it, but the best word I have is "stereotypical" statement. For instance, what's your definition of bashing? In all honesty, not much of what's been responded to as bashing has actually been bashing IMO. What's been labelled as bashing has more accurately been criticism, in which there's a HUGE difference.

As for the "people who try to protect her are often called too much into fictional character" part, that is largely on how the situation is handled on the "protector's" part. When people say "you're too much into a fictional character" it could also be taken as "calm down and make a valid argument". In other words, when someone is labelled as being too much into a character, they've usually posted a very angry and defensive comment. It's one thing to have a character that can be emotionally connected to, it's another thing to hunt someone down because they "insulted" said character.

For example, I have very mixed feelings about Ran. In fact, I'm actually a bit on the dislike side to be honest. However, does that mean I can't be friendly with people who like Ran? Of course not. Does that mean I criticize her? I can, as I have a right to voice what I think. Would it be bashing? If I'm polite about it, no, then it'd just be criticism. People could disagree with me and I'd be perfectly fine with it since I'm aware it's an opinion.

And, most importantly, do I have to explain why I don't like Ran?
Against what most would think, the answer is no. It's my opinion what I think on Ran and as long as I don't say others are "wrong" for liking her, I shouldn't have to explain myself. It's like asking someone to explain why their favorite color is what it is. Some things we just gotta accept whether we agree or not.


Again, as I worry about it too much, I hope I didn't come across as rude D: Everybody have big smiles now, yay 

[IHKF]

I just came up with something else!

What if Conan would attempt to kill himself after going into depression and thus Haibara having to snap HIM out of it for once? What if the WAY he tried to kill himself got the organization's attention (maybe he was standing on the railing or something and was so batsh!t crazy he admitted to being Shinichi in front of thousands? XD)?

That.... sounds plausible to me! XD

you know its kinda funny like how people can bash Ran and get away with it while people who is trying to protect her are often called too much into fictional charecter... While people who bash other charecter is called charecter bashers...

This is a very... I'm not sure how to word it, but the best word I have is "stereotypical" statement. For instance, what's your definition of bashing? In all honesty, not much of what's been responded to as bashing has actually been bashing IMO. What's been labelled as bashing has more accurately been criticism, in which there's a HUGE difference.

As for the "people who try to protect her are often called too much into fictional character" part, that is largely on how the situation is handled on the "protector's" part. When people say "you're too much into a fictional character" it could also be taken as "calm down and make a valid argument". In other words, when someone is labelled as being too much into a character, they've usually posted a very angry and defensive comment. It's one thing to have a character that can be emotionally connected to, it's another thing to hunt someone down because they "insulted" said character.

For example, I have very mixed feelings about Ran. In fact, I'm actually a bit on the dislike side to be honest. However, does that mean I can't be friendly with people who like Ran? Of course not. Does that mean I criticize her? I can, as I have a right to voice what I think. Would it be bashing? If I'm polite about it, no, then it'd just be criticism. People could disagree with me and I'd be perfectly fine with it since I'm aware it's an opinion.

And, most importantly, do I have to explain why I don't like Ran?
Against what most would think, the answer is no. It's my opinion what I think on Ran and as long as I don't say others are "wrong" for liking her, I shouldn't have to explain myself. It's like asking someone to explain why their favorite color is what it is. Some things we just gotta accept whether we agree or not.


Again, as I worry about it too much, I hope I didn't come across as rude D: Everybody have big smiles now, yay  :D

Once again, good wording sonoci.

[Vylash]

I just came up with something else!

What if Conan would attempt to kill himself after going into depression and thus Haibara having to snap HIM out of it for once? What if the WAY he tried to kill himself got the organization's attention (maybe he was standing on the railing or something and was so batsh!t crazy he admitted to being Shinichi in front of thousands? XD)?

That.... sounds plausible to me! XD

I think the DBs would snap him out of it as well, not just haibara...omg that's how we make the DBs relevant!

also, love you sonoci <333

[IHKF]

I just came up with something else!

What if Conan would attempt to kill himself after going into depression and thus Haibara having to snap HIM out of it for once? What if the WAY he tried to kill himself got the organization's attention (maybe he was standing on the railing or something and was so batsh!t crazy he admitted to being Shinichi in front of thousands? XD)?

That.... sounds plausible to me! XD

I think the DBs would snap him out of it as well, not just haibara...omg that's how we make the DBs relevant!

OH MY GOD I LOVE THAT! x3

[Kleene Onigiri]

If I'd hypothetically say that it would be interesting if Haibara died, I'll get bashed by the ai fans and would die a slow, horrible death (probably getting killed by a spoon, slowly and crudely)

Also interesting to see how ai fans try to turn every ran topic into a ai topic :x *flees*

[phreak_91]

If I'd hypothetically say that it would be interesting if Haibara died, I'll get bashed by the ai fans and would die a slow, horrible death (probably getting killed by a spoon, slowly and crudely)

You're probably right.  The thing with that, though, is it wouldn't have as big of an impact on the plot, since she isn't nearly as close to Conan as Ran is.  That's why Ran's death would be more interesting.

[IHKF]

If I'd hypothetically say that it would be interesting if Haibara died, I'll get bashed by the ai fans and would die a slow, horrible death (probably getting killed by a spoon, slowly and crudely)

Also interesting to see how ai fans try to turn every ran topic into a ai topic :x *flees*

Not true. XD Not to be mean but I've seen the Ai fans usually act more mature than the Ran fans. Mainly because the Ai fans connect with a calmer character who is stoic in a way while Ran is the typical teenage girl in which many Ran fans connect with BECAUSE of that. XD They may argue but they wouldn't KILL you! XD

Who was turning this into an Ai topic?

If I'd hypothetically say that it would be interesting if Haibara died, I'll get bashed by the ai fans and would die a slow, horrible death (probably getting killed by a spoon, slowly and crudely)

The thing with that, though, is it wouldn't have as big of an impact on the plot, since she isn't nearly as close to Conan as Ran is.  That's why Ran's death would be more interesting.

Haibara is already involved in the plot deeply and everybody is ALREADY out to kill her thus her death, if she created the antidote before then, wouldn't affect the story in such a major way. But Ran, being the main interest of the protagonist and an "Angel" to one of the members would probably have a bigger impact on the plot line. So yeah. Agree. XD