Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby red.orchid » July 16th, 2011, 10:23 pm

I like children in real life however I dislike the way Genta is obsessed with food. My little cousin is a hearty eater but I don't think food is the only thing on his mind.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby User 4869 » July 16th, 2011, 10:52 pm

Look what they do in Two-Mix kidnap case. The fact that two-mix still forgive them and protect them from the police. The fact that all Conan can do is call them Baka and forget all about it afterward. They change Conan's plan just to give them glory and not for the outcome of the case.

Not to mention I don't like Genta's and Ayumi's voice in general. (and funnily, perfectly fine with Takagi's)
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby red.orchid » July 16th, 2011, 11:06 pm

Now come to think of it ... possibly I'm on edge with Ayumi because I don't favour the thought of kids getting involved in romance at young age.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby Commi-Ninja » July 16th, 2011, 11:12 pm

Don't worry, Abs., I despise their parents more than them.  After all, it's the parents that make the kids behave as poorly as they do.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby PhoenixTears » July 16th, 2011, 11:23 pm

Well-behaved children don't bother me a bit. A lot of them are even cute. The ones that are constantly getting into things they shouldn't, being obnoxious brats and throwing fits over everything annoy me, but at the same time, I don't hate them, I just prefer not to be around them. And I blame their parents 100%, and generally feel bad for the child because until their parents start teaching them how to behave and such, nobody will want to be around them and they won't understand why.

(But that's a whole parenting argument right there, and not really the point of this thread, so... moving on.)

The Detective Boys... most of my dislike for them comes from their cases being boring. And Genta is just annoying.
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Re: Why do so much people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby sushimaster » July 16th, 2011, 11:50 pm

Wakarimashita wrote:That's a matter of opinion, I prefer DB material to most Kid cases (especially the recent ones) and the "Blue Castle Case" is better than a lot of BO cases. :P


I second that (except on some BO cases).
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby Black Demon » July 17th, 2011, 12:00 am

The DB's "wild" actions almost got Conan and themselves killed many times, but that's their role in the series  ;D

For me, I don't really mind Mitsuhiko; Ayumi does get annoying at times; but for Genta, he seriously gets on my nerves  >:(
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby Yukimi » July 17th, 2011, 12:04 am

I don't really hate Genta but most of Db's cases are annoying or boring or uninteresting so when I get the spoilers that they are in the next case I get an absolute Pvalov's dog reaction of Nooooo! Still I enjoy any case so this is mostly gratuitous bawing :P
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby leokiko » July 17th, 2011, 1:10 am

Simply because 90% of the time they appear, the case is bound to be boring/filler.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby kkslider5552000 » July 17th, 2011, 2:17 am

They're 7 year olds. 7 year olds are not interesting as the focus of anything unless they act nothing like real 7 year olds. Why do you think most shonen has teenagers as the main characters?

I mean, I like them more than most but even then, the three 7 year olds appear more than anyone except Conan, Ran and maybe a couple of others. They appear more than far more popular characters like Kid and Heiji.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby dilbertschalter » July 17th, 2011, 2:31 am

people hate fun.

also, this forum is poorly suited to like the db age wise (younger and older both are better suited for them)..
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby Schillok » July 17th, 2011, 4:54 am

dilbertschalter wrote:people hate fun.

also, this forum is poorly suited to like the db age wise (younger and older both are better suited for them)..


Well, I love the Detective Boys. All of  them, including Genta. (Though I guess I belong to that older age group.)
It's fun how most of the arguments against the DBs could be easily applied to most other character.
No story progression? Try a Heiji case, and you get a "random case" more often than with a DBs one. Ohh, and it will likely be followed by another non-canon case including Heiji. He is also prone to commit "wild" actions, facing suspected BO members (Jodie) or destroying evidence to a case (4 school detectives case) due to his rash judgement. Usually without having a back-up, like the DBs do with Conan or Haibara in case something goes wrong.
Not to mention his cases are boring. Usually constructed that complicated that it is almost impossible to solve the case yourself.
Yet, Heiji seems to be liked by the readers.

And seriously, why is Gentas "obsession with food" that much different from Shinichis/Conans obsession with cases?


User 4869 wrote:Look what they do in Two-Mix kidnap case. The fact that two-mix still forgive them and protect them from the police. The fact that all Conan can do is call them Baka and forget all about it afterward. They change Conan's plan just to give them glory and not for the outcome of the case.

Not to mention I don't live Genta's and Ayumi's voice in general.


Seeing from the other side (from the DBs view): Why did Conan change places with Ayumi?
Yes, he took the dangerous role, but why must it have been HIM doing it? He is just a kid, just like Ayumi. He could have stayed back, brought the glasses to the police to track Ayumis DBs badge, right?
The role switching had no particular reason, except to make him the hero again. And if he really were that worried about Ayumi: He could have stayed in contact with her with the badge all the time.


Yeah, what they were doing was a bit dangerous, but by far not as dangerous as what Conan was doing. At least they didn't try to confront the kidnappers directly and release the hostages all on themselves. If Heiji, Conan or even Kogoro had been in the same situation... they would have done the same.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby User 4869 » July 17th, 2011, 5:26 am

If Conan and Ayumi switch place, will Conan try to find the culprit before contact the police? Or just go with the plan and give the glass to police. The point is not who switch with Ayumi, The point is why they don't give the glass to the police right away as Conan told.

By audiance POW. Conan is an adult. I would do the same if I am Conan. He know what's he doing. By DB POW, they're all kid so everyone should be equal. They (specific: Ayumi -sorry) did not tell Conan they want to change plan, then they endanger themself and Conan. Why can't they tell him first "why you have to take the spotlight again. Let me do it" IIRC. It's Genta who propose that they shoulkd find culprits (after Conan left) on their own first before contact police (If the one who propose are Ayumi or Mitsuhiko then I'm heart-broken)

Btw, only Conan have the same height as Ayumi (or the closest one) If one should do the double, it has to be Conan. Should we let a girl do that? Conan accidenlty the only one who can switch with Ayumi.


And seriously, why is Gentas "obsession with food" that much different from Shinichis/Conans obsession with cases?

Genta's is better. Poor Angel.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby Kor » July 17th, 2011, 5:31 am

I don't really mind them.

As far as I'm concerned:
At best, they are supposed to be disliked.
At worst, they are a poor attempt for a comic relief.

I don't find them funny, but they don't Genta doesn't annoy me as much as in the start (perhaps I just got used to him).
The biggest flaw in them is that their characters are depending too much on one specific "attribute"
Genta - food
Mitsu - being nerdy
Ayumi - trying to be cute

Now at least, it is toned down a bit.
I don't mind child characters (anime, books, etc.) and most of them have a certain charm to their characters, I don't feel the same about the DB. But then again, perhaps it's because the DB are more close to what real bratty children behave like. Many times in fiction, a child character has some traits or personality that grown-ups can also relate to. Thinking about my annoying cousins when they were at the DB's age, they were a bit like that.
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Re: Why do so many people hate the Detective Boys?

Postby User 4869 » July 17th, 2011, 5:52 am

I should have though of this in the first place.

Conan and the Detective Boys
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=438.0

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