Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby 1Kaito » May 13th, 2011, 11:15 am

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Abs. wrote:She didn't "expect the person to keep missing for some reason" - she was willing to take whatever bullets hit her... she was willing to die protecting Haibara. That was the power of that scene.
But why didn't she just pick her up and run away? Sorry I just don't see any power in that scene and I didn't see her willing to die because it somehow seemed like she knew she wasn't going to. All I thought was "Why". Why was she even there.

Overall I just don't think Ran should have been there because just like dilbert said the whole not telling Ran about BO doesn't make sense if she is going to be in the middle of it like that


Ran had no idea that Vermouth did not want to shoot her.
What she did know is that she had already risked too much by runnig towards Ai and endangering herself by Calvados' shootings. When she had reached haibara and covered her with her own body, at that point, she only hoped that she is able to take any shots which were aimed at Haibara.

Ran knew that she was lucky enough not getting shot while running to save Ai. So now that she had reached Ai, Ran reckoned that trying to run away with Ai, would only be more reckless and more idiotic.
Lucky my ass....nobody in DC can shoot a gun properly apparently...
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Kaia » May 13th, 2011, 11:20 am

I believe the reason why Ran did not run away was because her legs were not able to carry her any farther. Even she can feel fear. I am sure she was too afraid to move anymore than she already had.

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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Kleene Onigiri » May 13th, 2011, 11:33 am

I like how people think that everyone can think clearly and logically in a dangerous situation and always choose the best solution :3
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby A.E. » May 13th, 2011, 11:33 am

1Kaito wrote:
AbEgho wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Abs. wrote:She didn't "expect the person to keep missing for some reason" - she was willing to take whatever bullets hit her... she was willing to die protecting Haibara. That was the power of that scene.
But why didn't she just pick her up and run away? Sorry I just don't see any power in that scene and I didn't see her willing to die because it somehow seemed like she knew she wasn't going to. All I thought was "Why". Why was she even there.

Overall I just don't think Ran should have been there because just like dilbert said the whole not telling Ran about BO doesn't make sense if she is going to be in the middle of it like that


Ran had no idea that Vermouth did not want to shoot her.
What she did know is that she had already risked too much by runnig towards Ai and endangering herself by Calvados' shootings. When she had reached haibara and covered her with her own body, at that point, she only hoped that she is able to take any shots which were aimed at Haibara.

Ran knew that she was lucky enough not getting shot while running to save Ai. So now that she had reached Ai, Ran reckoned that trying to run away with Ai, would only be more reckless and more idiotic.
Lucky my ass....nobody in DC can shoot a gun properly apparently...

Damn, I feel like I'm in a déjà vu! You are not the first person to suggest that, btw. I have answered this before:
I am not going to assume that you never shot a gun before; nonetheless, if you have, you would realise how much easy it is to miss a target within ten metres (heck, even less than that, if you're talking about amateurs). That's the case with handguns, especially the ones with considerable recoil; when you can't react with the recoil properly, you aim goes unreasonably inaccurate. You're better off with a pump action, where the chance of getting a close-range target is dramatically higher (that is because the cartridge of a pump action bullet comprises bery tiny metallic pellets, which spread in every direction when the bullet hit something)....... Does these last two statement ring a bell? Akai??? perhaps when he appeared to save the day in that particular episode?? ??
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby 1Kaito » May 13th, 2011, 11:36 am

AbEgho wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
AbEgho wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Abs. wrote:She didn't "expect the person to keep missing for some reason" - she was willing to take whatever bullets hit her... she was willing to die protecting Haibara. That was the power of that scene.
But why didn't she just pick her up and run away? Sorry I just don't see any power in that scene and I didn't see her willing to die because it somehow seemed like she knew she wasn't going to. All I thought was "Why". Why was she even there.

Overall I just don't think Ran should have been there because just like dilbert said the whole not telling Ran about BO doesn't make sense if she is going to be in the middle of it like that


Ran had no idea that Vermouth did not want to shoot her.
What she did know is that she had already risked too much by runnig towards Ai and endangering herself by Calvados' shootings. When she had reached haibara and covered her with her own body, at that point, she only hoped that she is able to take any shots which were aimed at Haibara.

Ran knew that she was lucky enough not getting shot while running to save Ai. So now that she had reached Ai, Ran reckoned that trying to run away with Ai, would only be more reckless and more idiotic.
Lucky my ass....nobody in DC can shoot a gun properly apparently...

Damn, I feel like I'm in a déjà vu! You are not the first person to suggest that, btw. I have answered this before:
I am not going to assume that you never shot a gun before; nonetheless, if you have, you would realise how much easy it is to miss a target within ten metres (heck, even less than that, if you're talking about amateurs). That's the case with handguns, especially the ones with considerable recoil; when you can't react with the recoil properly, you aim goes unreasonably inaccurate. You're better off with a pump action, where the chance of getting a close-range target is dramatically higher (that is because the cartridge of a pump action bullet comprises bery tiny metallic pellets, which spread in every direction when the bullet hit something)....... Does these last two statement ring a bell? Akai??? perhaps when he appeared to save the day in that particular episode?? ??
I imagine it shouldn't be easy to miss a target when you are a trained assassin.
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Kaia » May 13th, 2011, 11:41 am

If you add the pressure, stress and/or the fear that you 'might' miss, then even a professional can fail.
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby A.E. » May 13th, 2011, 11:42 am

1Kaito wrote:
AbEgho wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
AbEgho wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Abs. wrote:She didn't "expect the person to keep missing for some reason" - she was willing to take whatever bullets hit her... she was willing to die protecting Haibara. That was the power of that scene.
But why didn't she just pick her up and run away? Sorry I just don't see any power in that scene and I didn't see her willing to die because it somehow seemed like she knew she wasn't going to. All I thought was "Why". Why was she even there.

Overall I just don't think Ran should have been there because just like dilbert said the whole not telling Ran about BO doesn't make sense if she is going to be in the middle of it like that


Ran had no idea that Vermouth did not want to shoot her.
What she did know is that she had already risked too much by runnig towards Ai and endangering herself by Calvados' shootings. When she had reached haibara and covered her with her own body, at that point, she only hoped that she is able to take any shots which were aimed at Haibara.

Ran knew that she was lucky enough not getting shot while running to save Ai. So now that she had reached Ai, Ran reckoned that trying to run away with Ai, would only be more reckless and more idiotic.
Lucky my ass....nobody in DC can shoot a gun properly apparently...

Damn, I feel like I'm in a déjà vu! You are not the first person to suggest that, btw. I have answered this before:
I am not going to assume that you never shot a gun before; nonetheless, if you have, you would realise how much easy it is to miss a target within ten metres (heck, even less than that, if you're talking about amateurs). That's the case with handguns, especially the ones with considerable recoil; when you can't react with the recoil properly, you aim goes unreasonably inaccurate. You're better off with a pump action, where the chance of getting a close-range target is dramatically higher (that is because the cartridge of a pump action bullet comprises bery tiny metallic pellets, which spread in every direction when the bullet hit something)....... Does these last two statement ring a bell? Akai??? perhaps when he appeared to save the day in that particular episode?? ??
I imagine it shouldn't be easy to miss a target when you are a trained assassin.

Factor 1: The target was mingled within distracting environment
Factor 2: Calvados was pretty far from the scene
Factor 3: Calvados was a bit pressured when he was hearing Vermouth telling him not to shoot; even though kept shooting, he did second-guess himself.
Factor 4: And most importantly, after a while, Calvados was dearly sacked by Akai.

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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby 1Kaito » May 13th, 2011, 11:45 am

Ok maybe all these excuses can work for them in this situation, but you can't possibly have an excuse for every single time someone repeatedly shoots at someone yet misses completely. It is just an anime thing I guess, I've seen it too many times in other anime.
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby A.E. » May 13th, 2011, 11:55 am

1Kaito wrote:Ok maybe all these excuses can work for them in this situation, but you can't possibly have an excuse for every single time someone repeatedly shoots at someone yet misses completely. It is just an anime thing I guess, I've seen it too many times in other anime.

Oh, you'd be shocked! Shooting while aiming accurately, as long as it isn't an automatic [abbr=in which case you needn't really aim]machine gun[/abbr], is not as easy as hollywood fancies it to be. (it's rather ironic, really, that an anime could possibly be more realistic than a live-action motion picture, in certain aspects)
If you haven't gone shooting before, you should, if you ever have the chance that is. It's both frustrating and fun at the same time.
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby 1Kaito » May 13th, 2011, 12:23 pm

What about that skateboard scene in Movie 14 :x
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby A.E. » May 13th, 2011, 12:26 pm

1Kaito wrote:What about that skateboard scene in Movie 14 :x

Sorry, I can, in now way, open a discussion about that, given the fact that I haven't seen it yet.
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Wakarimashita » May 13th, 2011, 12:34 pm

1Kaito wrote:What about that skateboard scene in Movie 14 :x


If we can include non-cannon material in this topic, then I'll put every single minute of movie 14 in the "worst scene category". :P
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby pofa » May 13th, 2011, 1:25 pm

*tries to think of one that hasn't been mentioned*

End of 272. :o I love that scene. "X...X...X."

And it's not my least favorite by any means, but those scenes where Shiratori and Satou are negotiating their "marriage contract" are really and truly creepy. :/ Points for Conan, Ran, Sonoko, and Vermouth wasting an entire day to spy on them, though. XD
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Wakarimashita » May 13th, 2011, 1:33 pm

pofa wrote:*tries to think of one that hasn't been mentioned*

End of 272. :o I love that scene. "X...X...X."

And it's not my least favorite by any means, but those scenes where Shiratori and Satou are negotiating their "marriage contract" are really and truly creepy. :/ Points for Conan, Ran, Sonoko, and Vermouth wasting an entire day to spy on them, though. XD


Great scene indeed, I also really like the beginning of episode 230, but the martini allusion was changed in the anime. 
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Re: Most favorite and least favorite scene in the series

Postby Nyarl » May 13th, 2011, 1:52 pm

dilbertschalter wrote:
1Kaito wrote:Favorite Scene: Forgot what episode, but it had Kaito Kid in it. Anyways it when the Detective Boys (aside from Conan) fell for a trap and went plummeting to their doom when all of a sudden Conan went James Bond, jumped down the trap, flew past all of them and prepared a soft cussion for their landing. Epic.

Least Favorite Scene: Was in episode 345 when Vermouth was about to shoot Haibara, but then Ran jumped from out of the trunk, ran across the car all slow motion-y-like, went on top of Haibara and stayed their expecting the person to keep missing for some reason. Also Ran reminding Haibara of her sister. That scene was so unnecessary on so many levels.


mad props on that choice of a least favorite. 345 tends to get an automatic pass/seal of approval, but that specific scene just sucked. it wasn't even that is was unrealistic (can say that about so many things in DC after all), it was the way it was set up and the problems it created. the whole not telling ran logic evaporates, as she got into danger that was BO related because she didn't know what was going on. would have been a much better episode if that hadn't happened at all (gosho was trying to be too cute with foreshadowing wrt the nyc case).


Ran should have found Jodie's photos and then completely forgotten about them then? Or are you objecting to Ran being involved at all, including Jodie befriending her which lead to the discovery of the photos in a well developed, plausible, non-random way?

Why do you assume the "logic" of not telling Ran is supposed to be correct instead of tragic error that'll get her seriously hurt if not killed at some point?

As for the other comments about the gunplay stuff, no one has yet really noted that Ran wasn't exactly stationary or running at a consistent speed moving in a consistent direction for very long. It's very difficult to shoot an erratically moving target. By the time Ran was an easy target, Vermouth was protecting her.

(The Makoto bullet dodge was absurd, though, especially for the reason he gave. How could anyone ever hit anything with that gun if it really worked that way? Distance shooting would be affected even more by that rationale.)
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