Defining Character Traits

[Wakarimashita]

Kaito Kid:

Positive traits:
None

Negative traits:
Arrogant (yes, I know that Conan is also arrogant, but at least he sometimes is useful to the society)
Uses his talent for crime, not even out of despair, but in most cases just for fun
Likes to humiliate people
Pervert

[kyuuketsuki]

@Abe: His staying is actually an example of egotism more than not. Egotism is the belief of undue self-importance. Which Shinichi has, easily.
Yes, they are very connected, but you can be kind-hearted and not be as naive as Ran. She is overly so, and it is to the point where it is bad.

@Stopwatch: Yeah, you can, but do we really know enough about her? I'd wait until more info is revealed on her.

@Dwalin: So being a talented magician, and entertaining people with that magic is not positive? Also, they aren't "for fun" most of his crimes are jewels. And those have to do with his father's death. Though he is not one to turn down challenges from his adversaries. Also, he returns the jewels to the original owners if they aren't the one he is looking for. He is an interesting antagonist to say the least (or in Magic Kaitou protagonist).

[Dwalin]

He is an interesting antagonist to say the least (or in Magic Kaitou protagonist).

To me, a character that never really looses cannot be that interesting. In fact, he always manages to steal what he wants even if he returns it after that (by the way, does he always do that or only sometimes?). Conan never managed to prevent him from committing the theft. And if it is always the same, what's interesting about that?

[Wakarimashita]

+1 Dwalin. However cases with Kaito Kid have been of very average quality (to say the least) only since Sonoko's uncle was introduced because he emphasises the repetitiveness and the predictability. Before that, they were actually pretty good, if not excellent (episodes 76, 132-134 or 219 are the first ones that come to my mind).

Sonoko's uncle :

Positive :
-Rich

Negative :
-Still alive
-Annoying
-Has a huge ego

[Dwalin]

Sonoko's uncle :

Positive :
-Rich

Negative :
-Still alive
-Annoying
-Has a huge ego

I would also list "has a dog" among positive traits.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Adding to haibara:

Negative:
- created a poison/drug

[Kor]

@Dwalin and Waka - don't turn this into a hate thread.

To me, a character that never really looses cannot be that interesting.

If I didn't know that you were talking about Kaito, I would have guessed that you're referring to Shinichi.

(by the way, does he always do that or only sometimes?)

I suggest you read Magic Kaito so you'd know more about the background of Kaito and understand why he steals stuff and then returns them back to their owners. Might as well would make you hate him less.

[Dwalin]

To me, a character that never really looses cannot be that interesting.

If I didn't know that you were talking about Kaito, I would have guessed that you're referring to Shinichi.

But Shinichi always looses to Kaito Kid and hasn't managed to do anything about the black organization.

I suggest you read Magic Kaito so you'd know more about the background of Kaito and understand why he steals stuff and then returns them back to their owners. Might as well would make you hate him less.

I know he wants to find and destroy that special gem needed by the organization that killed his father, but everything he steals cannot possibly be that gem. He cannot be that stupid to mistake, for example, the Suzuki black pearl for that gem.

[Stopwatch]

To me, a character that never really looses cannot be that interesting.

If I didn't know that you were talking about Kaito, I would have guessed that you're referring to Shinichi.

But Shinichi always looses to Kaito Kid and hasn't managed to do anything about the black organization.

No, actually it's always closer to a draw. Kid doesn't get to steal the gem 'cause Conan stops him (Conan:1 Kid:0) but he still isn't captured (Conan:1 Kid:1)

I suggest you read Magic Kaito so you'd know more about the background of Kaito and understand why he steals stuff and then returns them back to their owners. Might as well would make you hate him less.

I know he wants to find and destroy that special gem needed by the organization that killed his father, but everything he steals cannot possibly be that gem. He cannot be that stupid to mistake, for example, the Suzuki black pearl for that gem.

He doesn't know much about it other than the myths around it and myths often get twisted, he's got to check all of them 'til he gets the right one...

[Dwalin]

No, actually it's always closer to a draw. Kid doesn't get to steal the gem 'cause Conan stops him (Conan:1 Kid:0) but he still isn't captured (Conan:1 Kid:1)

But Kid doesn't get stopped by Conan at all. He always manages to steal what he wants and then returns it ONLY BECAUSE HE CHOSE HIMSELF TO DO SO. It's not like Conan foils his plans and prevents him from doing what he wants or forces him to return the stolen item.

[Kor]

But Shinichi always looses to Kaito Kid and hasn't managed to do anything about the black organization.

Regarding the organization - Conan did manage to do a lot of stuff with them, but he didn't win yet cause when he wins, DC would basically end.
Regarding Kid - Gosho obviously likes both Conan and Kaito, his two protagonists from different manga. I suspect he wants both of them to "win", it's just the definition of winning here. Kaito's job is to steal, and Conan's job as a detective is usually to (in most cases) find out who Kid disguised as and (in other cases) finding out Kid's trick. So at the end, Conan always finds out who is Kid, and Kid manages to steal the thing (but the final conclusion isn't always the same. Sometimes Kid "gets" Conan, and sometimes Conan "gets" Kid)

No, actually it's always closer to a draw. Kid doesn't get to steal the gem 'cause Conan stops him (Conan:1 Kid:0) but he still isn't captured (Conan:1 Kid:1)

As I said above, my take on it is a little different, though I might not remember some Kid cases, so I could be wrong.

[1Kaito]

Adding to haibara:

Negative:
- created a poison/drug

That's not really a trait..

[Stopwatch]

But Shinichi always looses to Kaito Kid and hasn't managed to do anything about the black organization.

Regarding the organization - Conan did manage to do a lot of stuff with them, but he didn't win yet cause when he wins, DC would basically end.
Regarding Kid - Gosho obviously likes both Conan and Kaito, his two protagonists from different manga. I suspect he wants both of them to "win", it's just the definition of winning here. Kaito's job is to steal, and Conan's job as a detective is usually to (in most cases) find out who Kid disguised as and (in other cases) finding out Kid's trick. So at the end, Conan always finds out who is Kid, and Kid manages to steal the thing (but the final conclusion isn't always the same. Sometimes Kid "gets" Conan, and sometimes Conan "gets" Kid)

No, actually it's always closer to a draw. Kid doesn't get to steal the gem 'cause Conan stops him (Conan:1 Kid:0) but he still isn't captured (Conan:1 Kid:1)

As I said above, my take on it is a little different, though I might not remember some Kid cases, so I could be wrong.

...I actually prefer your version, makes a lot of sense, no bias and no bashing (mine wasn't really explained properly so yours automatically overides mine).
In other words, I now take your point of view on this... 

[Kleene Onigiri]

Adding to haibara:

Negative:
- created a poison/drug

That's not really a trait..

Kaito Kid:

Positive traits:
None

Negative traits:
Arrogant (yes, I know that Conan is also arrogant, but at least he sometimes is useful to the society)
Uses his talent for crime, not even out of despair, but in most cases just for fun
Likes to humiliate people
Pervert

But "Uses his talent for crime, not even out of despair, but in most cases just for fun" is? :V Considering you didn't complain about that?
Then I say it a bit different:
- uses her talent for crime, creating poison/drugs that kills people

[Wakarimashita]

Adding to haibara:

Negative:
- created a poison/drug

That's not really a trait..

Kaito Kid:

Positive traits:
None

Negative traits:
Arrogant (yes, I know that Conan is also arrogant, but at least he sometimes is useful to the society)
Uses his talent for crime, not even out of despair, but in most cases just for fun
Likes to humiliate people
Pervert

But "Uses his talent for crime, not even out of despair, but in most cases just for fun" is? :V Considering you didn't complain about that?
Then I say it a bit different:
- uses her talent for crime, creating poison/drugs that kills people

1Kaito and I are different people.