Defining Character Traits

[kyuuketsuki]

I thought it would be a nice idea to make a topic listing all of the apparent character traits of the main cast of DC. And trying to track development of the characters, because in a series this long there should be some development of characters, barring a few staples that shouldn't change (IE Agasa and Megure).

Please use Spoiler Tags for anything that is not animated yet.

So let me begin real quickly with a the two principle characters...

Shinichi
Positive:
-Highly moral in his actions (though this doesn't prevent him from breaking any laws, and there is a topic somewhere about that)
-Intelligent
-Quick to take action if something is wrong
-Cares deeply about those close to him

Negative:
-Arrogant
-Egotistical
-(as Conan) Sometimes too quick to action endangering himself and others
-Disregards the worries or warnings of others (especially Haibara)
-Can be cold hearted

Note: When he is acting as Conan, the first two negative traits become lessened greatly. Though as the series progresses his arrogance shows up more and more as Conan, especially if he is only with the DBoys.

Progress throughout the series: As he gains experience, he evolves as a character (Shinichi in his teenage body). Every time he transforms he seems to mature a bit. He still tends to be a bit arrogant and egotistical, but due to his situation he progressively becomes less so.

Spoiler: Shinichi's action in a recent case. Major spoiler, do not open if you are not caught up in the manga

And in his latest transformation he finally told Ran his feelings, which is a big step for his character.

Ran
Positive:
-Extremely kindhearted
-Believes in the good of others
-Is a karate champion
-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)
-Is EXTREMELY lucky

Negative:
-Is naive
-Easily scared
-Can't seem to adapt to seeing death (really bad considering who her father and boyfriend are)
-Freezes up or seems to forget that she knows Karate in high stress situations
-Believes too highly in the supernatural

Note: for the negative with Karate, it is my belief that this is so because she only learned sports Karate, and not practical. Therefore she was never trained to deal with those situations. Though she can use it when others are in danger, she doesn't often when herself is in danger, especially if she believes it is supernatural in nature.
Also, her naivety seems to be her most sticking negative trait along with the belief in the supernatural.

Progress in the series: Honestly, with the negative she hasn't progressed all that much. Her emotional side is the only thing that has progressed, but it is so erratic that I can't put it as a positive or a negative. Ran is a very two dimensional character. She should have progressed more, but I suppose that would hinder her purpose in the series which seems to change from case to case.



Lets do other characters and discuss various progresses or changes. Also, if anyone wants to add to or discuss character traits set forth by others, that would be awesome.

[1Kaito]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

[Wakarimashita]

Even without knowing how long it's been, we've seen characters such as Sonoko telling Ran how "strong" she is.

[kyuuketsuki]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

Yes, walking in front of a crowd and playing to them when trying to solve a heinous murder is not egotistical, and laughing to yourself when you hear people talking about you is totally not egotistical, and certainly not thinking that you are the only one who can take down an international syndicate. Yup, not egotistical at all.... wait.... Nevermind... Shinichi's ego is huge.

As for Ran it has been implied (especially by sonoko) several times that she has been waiting a long time for Shinichi. This is even to the point that they had to make visits to his house to clean it. And, though I cannot recall if this was a manga case or an AO, there was also the comment that Shinichi's house was a ghost house by the DBoys.

[1Kaito]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

Yes, walking in front of a crowd and playing to them when trying to solve a heinous murder is not egotistical, and laughing to yourself when you hear people talking about you is totally not egotistical, and certainly not thinking that you are the only one who can take down an international syndicate. Yup, not egotistical at all.... wait.... Nevermind... Shinichi's ego is huge.

Well isn't that him just being arrogant? I agree with you there he is a little arrogant, but egotistical? It's not like he outright comes out and sas, " Hahaha I'm the best detective in the world! No one is better than me! I am the great detective of the east!! There is no case I can not solve!"

Even without knowing how long it's been, we've seen characters such as Sonoko telling Ran how "strong" she is.

She could be overexaggerating it. I don't know, I just think if it hasn't even been a year yet then I don't see how thats long. It's not like they are an old married couple who haven't seen each other for years. They are young and not even together yet.

[ProfParanoia]

Though to be fair to 1k, that is in Sonoko standards.

[kyuuketsuki]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

Yes, walking in front of a crowd and playing to them when trying to solve a heinous murder is not egotistical, and laughing to yourself when you hear people talking about you is totally not egotistical, and certainly not thinking that you are the only one who can take down an international syndicate. Yup, not egotistical at all.... wait.... Nevermind... Shinichi's ego is huge.

Well isn't that him just being arrogant? I agree with you there he is a little arrogant, but egotistical? It's not like he outright comes out and sas, " Hahaha I'm the best detective in the world! No one is better than me! I am the great detective of the east!! There is no case I can not solve!"

Yeah... he kinda does. He doesn't outright say it, but he shows it through his actions easily. Case in point is the Airplane murder. The MPD was on board, someone died, and instead of letting the police handle it, he had to get involved. Even after the police told him to sit down and not get involved. Also, he calls himself "meitantei" which means great detective, iirc. And the fact that he has to get involved with every case he sees implies that he does think he can solve every case.

[1Kaito]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

Yes, walking in front of a crowd and playing to them when trying to solve a heinous murder is not egotistical, and laughing to yourself when you hear people talking about you is totally not egotistical, and certainly not thinking that you are the only one who can take down an international syndicate. Yup, not egotistical at all.... wait.... Nevermind... Shinichi's ego is huge.

Well isn't that him just being arrogant? I agree with you there he is a little arrogant, but egotistical? It's not like he outright comes out and sas, " Hahaha I'm the best detective in the world! No one is better than me! I am the great detective of the east!! There is no case I can not solve!"

Yeah... he kinda does. He doesn't outright say it, but he shows it through his actions easily. Case in point is the Airplane murder. The MPD was on board, someone died, and instead of letting the police handle it, he had to get involved. Even after the police told him to sit down and not get involved. Also, he calls himself "meitantei" which means great detective, iirc. And the fact that he has to get involved with every case he sees implies that he does think he can solve every case.

I don't think that is being egotistical. It is just who he is. He loves solving cases. Besides imagine if he actually does let the police handle it. And he is a great detective, that is prety much a fact no need in being humble about it lol. I meanI don't think someone with a big ego could let other people take the credit for the cases he solved or at least not complain all the time about it. And the fact that he has to get involved with every case just proves how much he loves solving them.

[Wakarimashita]

Though to be fair to 1k, that is in Sonoko standards.

Sonoko's standards are pretty much the average standards of a girl her age.

[kyuuketsuki]

How is Shinichi egotistical?

-Has a strong will (has to be to wait that long for a guy)

You know people always say this, but I don't get it. We aren't even completely sure how long its been since he shrunk so I never understood when people said she has been waiting long. Unless a couple a months is long too most people?

Yes, walking in front of a crowd and playing to them when trying to solve a heinous murder is not egotistical, and laughing to yourself when you hear people talking about you is totally not egotistical, and certainly not thinking that you are the only one who can take down an international syndicate. Yup, not egotistical at all.... wait.... Nevermind... Shinichi's ego is huge.

Well isn't that him just being arrogant? I agree with you there he is a little arrogant, but egotistical? It's not like he outright comes out and sas, " Hahaha I'm the best detective in the world! No one is better than me! I am the great detective of the east!! There is no case I can not solve!"

Yeah... he kinda does. He doesn't outright say it, but he shows it through his actions easily. Case in point is the Airplane murder. The MPD was on board, someone died, and instead of letting the police handle it, he had to get involved. Even after the police told him to sit down and not get involved. Also, he calls himself "meitantei" which means great detective, iirc. And the fact that he has to get involved with every case he sees implies that he does think he can solve every case.

I don't think that is being egotistical. It is just who he is. He loves solving cases. Besides imagine if he actually does let the police handle it. And he is a great detective, that is prety much a fact no need in being humble about it lol. I meanI don't think someone with a big ego could let other people take the credit for the cases he solved or at least not complain all the time about it. And the fact that he has to get involved with every case just proves how much he loves solving them.

He is FORCED to allow someone else to take credit. If he doesn't, he and everyone else around him will die.

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[1Kaito]

Yeah I know that's why I said "or at least not complain all the time about it"

[ProfParanoia]

Though to be fair to 1k, that is in Sonoko standards.

Sonoko's standards are pretty much the average standards of a girl her age.

Half an hour?

[1Kaito]

Though to be fair to 1k, that is in Sonoko standards.

Sonoko's standards are pretty much the average standards of a girl her age.

Half an hour?

LOL

[Kor]

I don't think that is being egotistical. It is just who he is.

This isn't really an argument.
If what you do, or "who you are" is defined as "egotistical", then you're probably an egotistical.

[kyuuketsuki]

Yeah I know that's why I said "or at least not complain all the time about it"

Alright, let me put it to you this way... Sherlock Holmes, his idol, and someone whom he wishes to emulate, never took credit for anything ever (btw, he is also egotistical, and he has a far greater reason for it, which I'll explain later). Holmes would solve countless cases and refuse credit for it, bolstering the apparent ability of the inspectors of Scotland Yard instead of his own reputation. He had no reason to do this, and in fact, most others would have done it to spite them because of how they often treated Holmes. If not for Watson, his exploits in many cases would have never been heard or known. Shinichi, when he had his body, elated to appear in front of cameras to talk about how great he is and bolster his name, which in my opinion makes the MPD look incompetent. This is despite not being able to act alone. He has no skills other than kicking a soccer ball and deducing. Where as Holmes could deduce almost better than anyone else (he stated his brother was more brilliant), a boxer with skills enough to rival the pros, a brilliant violinist, an expert at single stick, proficient at bartitsu, a brilliant chemist, and a master of disguise. Holmes, despite being able to solve every case, never did unless he was asked directly. For being such a great detective, Shinichi is lacking in the essential skill of being able to subdue a criminal, something it appears EVERY OTHER DETECTIVE in the series is capable of, including Kogorou. This is not to mention his actions have more than once ENDANGERED others, including himself. Holmes never let those who were not prepared or involved to get hurt, yet Shinichi has nearly gotten Kogorou sniped by Gin, been shot himself, nearly got all of the DBoys killed at the same time, got poisoned, which in all respects should have killed him, and drove someone to suicide. For a great detective he isn't very great. He doesn't make many mistakes, but when he does bad things happen, and not only to him but those around him.