Ai + Conan

[Searcher]

Call us "believers"

[Girl19]

Like if you are a true fan of a football team then you would support that team all the way without supporting any others.

So Prince is a true fan that supports Aicon all the way and you are just in general a fan of relationships that involves Ai/Shiho.

Wow, after all I've done for AiCon, I'm now just a general fan? And someone else who appeared just a couple months ago is now the true AiCon fan. Wow, thank you Rellik. That made my day.
And just to let you know, there's no such thing as a "true" fan. Either you're fan of something or you're not. And the fanatism "extent" differs from one person to another. That's why I said I'm a bigger fan. Now just because some people decide to fool themselves by "believing" something will happen even though everyone knows it won't, it doesn't mean or make them bigger fans, just bigger fools (because I'm a fool too for loving AiCon even though I know it won't happen, but at least I'm realistic). And just because I also love other Ai-pairings, it doesn't mean my love for AiCon has decreased a bit.

I will join you betting that DC will end with Ran x Shinichi. And I even agree that this pairing is among the least interesting pairings if you consider its possebility for developments.
But I don't agree that AiCon would make a better ending (and especially not the best ending ever like you mentioned). I would rather have Ran x Shinichi, despite the weaknesses of that pairing.

Haven't read your posts since a long time, I had missed them.
Well, being an AiCon fan, an AiCon ending would be, for me, the ideal and best-est ending ever!!!!11!!

Call us "fools"

Fixed.

[Searcher]

Now just because some people decide to fool themselves by "believing" something will happen even though everyone knows it won't, it doesn't mean or make them bigger fans, just bigger fools (because I'm a fool too for loving AiCon even though I know it won't happen, but at least I'm realistic)

We are no fools, we just believe that there will be a conanxAi ending. Since there is no definite proof that conanxAi will not happen, we will believe.
It's change we can believe in

Besides, believing in a conanxAi ending, gives me a better feeling inside than a shinichixran ending.
And if by some chance that ending will not happen. I will feel bad, but at least I will have felt good for a long long (knowing Gosho, very long) time.

[Schillok]

Now just because some people decide to fool themselves by "believing" something will happen even though everyone knows it won't, it doesn't mean or make them bigger fans, just bigger fools (because I'm a fool too for loving AiCon even though I know it won't happen, but at least I'm realistic)

We are no fools, we just believe that there will be a conanxAi ending. Since there is no definite proof that conanxAi will not happen, we will believe.
It's change we can believe in

Besides, believing in a conanxAi ending, gives me a better feeling inside than a shinichixran ending.
And if by some chance that ending will not happen. I will feel bad, but at least I will have felt good for a long long (knowing Gosho, very long) time.

The way you said is was that you believe 100% that there will be the ConAi ending you imagine. This is a sign that you are in deed fools since you just disregard reality (= everything indicates it will end as Ran x Shinichi).
Fools can enjoy their life as well. Being ignorant towards reality might even increase their happiness (like you said it does for you). But they will be disappointed often and can not be taken seriously during discussions.

Haven't read your posts since a long time, I had missed them.
Well, being an AiCon fan, an AiCon ending would be, for me, the ideal and best-est ending ever!!!!11!!

Well, the best ending for you and people who share your pairing. 
For a person like me who favors neither ShinRan nor AiCon it is different...

But of course, just like you I would be thrilled if DC ended with my favorite pairing. Although it would be opposed by quite a lot of people. 

[Searcher]

The way you said is was that you believe 100% that there will be the ConAi ending you imagine. This is a sign that you are in deed fools since you just disregard reality (= everything indicates it will end as Ran x Shinichi).
Fools can enjoy their life as well. Being ignorant towards reality might even increase their happiness (like you said it does for you). But they will be disappointed often and can not be taken seriously during discussions.

Is it 100% certain that there will be a ranxshinichi ending! If not, then I and others can believe in this ending.
How can we be ignorant towards reality when even you don't know the reality.

Believing in one ending, doesn't make me a fool in everything else. You make me sound like an american teabagger
And just because I believe in this ending, means that I cann't be taken seriously during discussions Even if I say something truthfull

[AICHAN]

Now just because some people decide to fool themselves by "believing" something will happen even though everyone knows it won't, it doesn't mean or make them bigger fans, just bigger fools (because I'm a fool too for loving AiCon even though I know it won't happen, but at least I'm realistic)

We are no fools, we just believe that there will be a conanxAi ending. Since there is no definite proof that conanxAi will not happen, we will believe.
It's change we can believe in

Besides, believing in a conanxAi ending, gives me a better feeling inside than a shinichixran ending.
And if by some chance that ending will not happen. I will feel bad, but at least I will have felt good for a long long (knowing Gosho, very long) time.

@searcher:i was like you before(when the proof of Ai's feelings were more visibles ) but i became more realistic,and  even if i LOVE aicon more than any other pairing,i know i will be sad in the end...,but the pain will be lower than if i was sure they would end together,because i already know how it will end...(i don't know if you understand what i meanXD)

of course,many of us still have a little hope for Aicon and pray for them to be together in the end,but we all know how it's going to end...we just enjoy the moments they spend together,their interactions...that's enough to make me happy!
being realistic doesn't mean we aren't true fans,on the contrary...

[Girl19]

We are no fools, we just believe that there will be a conanxAi ending.

Big contradiction there.

Since there is no definite proof that conanxAi will not happen, we will believe.
It's change we can believe in

Besides, believing in a conanxAi ending, gives me a better feeling inside than a shinichixran ending.
And if by some chance that ending will not happen. I will feel bad, but at least I will have felt good for a long long (knowing Gosho, very long) time.

Schillok said everything I wanted to say while reading this.

Well, the best ending for you and people who share your pairing. 
For a person like me who favors neither ShinRan nor AiCon it is different...

But of course, just like you I would be thrilled if DC ended with my favorite pairing. Although it would be opposed by quite a lot of people. 

Of course, everyone will want their favorite pairing to be the final one. It's legitimate if you ask me.

of course,many of us still have a little hope for Aicon and pray for them to be together in the end,but we all know how it's going to end...we just enjoy the moments they spend together,their interactions...that's enough to make me happy!
being realistic doesn't mean we aren't true fans,on the contrary...

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[Searcher]

being realistic doesn't mean we aren't true fans,on the contrary...

I know that, but I believe in mine ending. And I am a realistic person, but I cann't explain it for now. I just believe in it.
It make me feel better and gives me more pleasure when I watch conanxAi interactions.

And if it ends in a ranxshinichi ending, then I will be sad that it happend, not devastated.
But as long Ai gets a good ending then the pain will be less, and after cursing Gosho for a while, mine life will go on.

Big contradiction there.

How can we be fools if we don't know, for 100%, the ending.

[Girl19]

How can we be fools if we don't know, for 100%, the ending.

The truth is 100% ShinRan. No wait.. it's 200% actually.

[James95]

How can we be fools if we don't know, for 100%, the ending.

The truth is 100% ShinRan. No wait.. it's 200% actually.

If there is an end to DC we don't even know if it will turn out "good"
Conan could die (0,0004%) Ran could die (0,0006% and yes I did calculate that with a piece of a fork.)
And there are millions of other things that could happen. NOTHING is 100% true or sure, not even that nothing is 100% sure.

[Girl19]

If there is an end to DC we don't even know if it will turn out "good"
Conan could die (0,0004%) Ran could die (0,0006% and yes I did calculate that with a piece of a fork.)
And there are millions of other things that could happen. NOTHING is 100% true or sure, not even that nothing is 100% sure.

The only 100% sure thing about DC is a ShinRan ending. Face the truth, damn it!

[James95]

If there is an end to DC we don't even know if it will turn out "good"
Conan could die (0,0004%) Ran could die (0,0006% and yes I did calculate that with a piece of a fork.)
And there are millions of other things that could happen. NOTHING is 100% true or sure, not even that nothing is 100% sure.

The only 100% sure thing about DC is a ShinRan ending. Face the truth, damn it!

If the Manga even has an end.
I favor the version in which Kishi dies before getting done^^

[Schillok]

If there is an end to DC we don't even know if it will turn out "good"
Conan could die (0,0004%) Ran could die (0,0006% and yes I did calculate that with a piece of a fork.)
And there are millions of other things that could happen. NOTHING is 100% true or sure, not even that nothing is 100% sure.

The only 100% sure thing about DC is a ShinRan ending. Face the truth, damn it!

I have to agree with James heres. At least partly... 100% exists, when selecting a random number from a normal 6-sided dice it is 100% sure that the number will be smaller than 7.
But the ending of DC is not 100% obvious yet (for us, given the "hidden information" that only Gosho holds).
Chances are high that the end will be Shinichi x Ran. Hard to put the probability for that ending in numbers, I would say something between 95% to <100%. My guess is 95.45%.  :P
There is a chance it will end differently though.

But it would be foolish to believe that such a small remaining chance for ConAi (especially since a lot of other pairings and endings compete for the small chance of <5% for a non Shin-Ran ending) will be the actual outcome of the manga and ignore all other possible endings.

[James95]

100% exists, when selecting a random number from a normal 6-sided dice it is 100% sure that the number will be smaller than 7.

The dice could explode...

My bet is:
RanXShinichi        95%
Nothing/no end    4%
AiCon                    0.34%

[Detective Prince]

If being realistic means not having faith in something I believe in then I'd rather stay a fool forever.

Now I wonder if you guys can tell what anime I got that from...

Anyways I'm serious. I'm sure MLK Jr was called a fool. I bet people said they are 100%..no 200% sure that white people and black people can not at least have some equality among us. i'm sure a lot of people called a lot of great believers "fools" well. The people who didn't believe were the true fools.

Fight the power!

that means Prince is a 'true' fan and you're a 'bigger' fan 

I don't get your point. And there are true fans and false fans? o_O

Like if you are a true fan of a football team then you would support that team all the way without supporting any others.

So Prince is a true fan that supports Aicon all the way and you are just in general a fan of relationships that involves Ai/Shiho.

I wouldn't call her a "general" fan. She is a big fan but yea your right. About everything else.