Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Rake(2

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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby Kor » November 22nd, 2010, 8:46 am

Finally got some time to watch this episode. I didn't read the manga files of this case because it didn't look so interesting back then.

Anyway, this case was way too obvious and easy to solve (aside from the japanese word play, but that's beyond my knowledge, but it was easy to figure out it was Shinji since he had nothing to do with monkey or nine, unlike the other two. Gosho is become a bit too obvious.)
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Postby Abs. » November 22nd, 2010, 9:08 am

Kor wrote: it was easy to figure out it was Shinji since he had nothing to do with monkey or nine, unlike the other two. Gosho is become a bit too obvious.)
Just because you know who the culprit is, you can't accuse them without proof, Kor ;)
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby Kor » November 22nd, 2010, 12:45 pm

Abs. wrote:
Kor wrote: it was easy to figure out it was Shinji since he had nothing to do with monkey or nine, unlike the other two. Gosho is become a bit too obvious.)
Just because you know who the culprit is, you can't accuse them without proof, Kor ;)

The japanese wordplay isn't a proof to begin with, it was just a way to figure out who the culprit was.
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Postby Abs. » November 22nd, 2010, 9:09 pm

"I know who the culprit is!  It's you, who none of the clues point to!  IT HAS TO BE YOU!!!!"

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Postby PhoenixTears » November 22nd, 2010, 10:56 pm

Abs. wrote:"I know who the culprit is!  It's you, who none of the clues point to!  IT HAS TO BE YOU!!!!"
Isn't that always the case?

Comes back around to "the one who has the strongest alibi is probably the murderer."
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby Kor » November 23rd, 2010, 12:13 am

Abs. wrote:"I know who the culprit is!  It's you, who none of the clues point to!  IT HAS TO BE YOU!!!!"

:D


Actually, considering the fact that this person had something to do with the rooster (unlike the others) was the best clue.
Aside from that, by regular standards, that wordplay is a bit too complicated to begin with and no officer would arrest you just because your name happens to have something to do with the hints that the victim gave before he passed out.
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby Abs. » November 23rd, 2010, 1:18 am

Well yeah.  But it was the button and subsequent interrogation of the hospital man that would have done the culprit in if he hadn't done the evil failstermind "yes i admit to the whole evil plot and this is how it's going to go so you'll know how to foil it" thing.
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Postby Mead » November 27th, 2010, 6:03 am

So I'm catching back up after kinda skipping out on watching DC for a month or so, This case was OK, but did anyone besides me think it was a bit insulting to Ran's Character? When did she become THAT weak-willed that a stupid piece of paper would make her A) Not stop a purse snatcher and B) Not beat up those punks.

She's never been that insecure before, even if she is in love with Shinichi. It felt like forced drama to make the plot work. =/ It was nice to see her have ore screen time I guess, but I ended up feeling like I didn't want to see her because of the plot. And the biggest mis-step was making her hear the real fortune before beating random baddie 100002030. It felt like the final insult that she didn't even get a chance to be resolved in herself, then have the fortune confirm she was right in her action.

Besides that the case was painfully obvious, and the only slightly original points were the festival setting and the victim living, which has been done, just not tons of times. Not to mention the other two "suspects" were almost insulting in how obvious the weren't the killers. A monkey face dude and a nerd? Why bother having them at all if they only served to pad out the episode by talking for a bit. The DS was funny to see, maybe he was playing the Dragon Quest game? That seems to be the hottest game with file sharing features lately.

Otherwise one of the worse cases I've seen in a long time, sadly. Even the spin kick of doom couldn't save it.
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby Kor » November 27th, 2010, 6:56 am

Mead wrote:So I'm catching back up after kinda skipping out on watching DC for a month or so, This case was OK, but did anyone besides me think it was a bit insulting to Ran's Character? When did she become THAT weak-willed that a stupid piece of paper would make her A) Not stop a purse snatcher and B) Not beat up those punks.


I think it was discussed a number of times in the ShinRan thread, but I might be wrong. Though I too didn't like it.
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby itsashleylove » November 27th, 2010, 12:14 pm

Kor wrote:
Mead wrote:So I'm catching back up after kinda skipping out on watching DC for a month or so, This case was OK, but did anyone besides me think it was a bit insulting to Ran's Character? When did she become THAT weak-willed that a stupid piece of paper would make her A) Not stop a purse snatcher and B) Not beat up those punks.


I think it was discussed a number of times in the ShinRan thread, but I might be wrong. Though I too didn't like it.


That's true, I guess her love for Shinichi is strong and makes her believe that a love fortune would determine their relationship
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby ranger » January 5th, 2011, 12:31 am

man i hate the cases when you can't understand what the hell is going on because you're not Japanese :(

Also..why exactly did Sonoko read hers instead of Ran's?
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby kkslider5552000 » January 5th, 2011, 1:02 am

ranger wrote:Also..why exactly did Sonoko read hers instead of Ran's?

Because...

well you see...



...um...



this is like the blue spark of fail. The sooner we ignore it outside of the few good parts, the better we'll all feel.
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby ranger » January 5th, 2011, 1:17 am

But at least blue spark of hate had Ai in it.

No Ai, just gayass Sonoko and Ran, plus a shit-tastic plot?!

worst. manga. case. evar.
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby kkslider5552000 » January 5th, 2011, 1:43 am

ranger wrote: just gayass Sonoko

you shut your mouth! >:(

Besides, at least we didn't have an Ai self-parody worse than movie 5.


Ok right now, worst Gosho cases.
5. Heiji and Shinichi KNEW EACH OTHER IN MIDDLE SCHOOL ISN'T THAT FUNNY (also some yikionno case and the last appearance of their parents ever, that was nice at least)
4. Haunted Apartment
3. This one
2. Blue Spark
1. Every Detective Boys case between Eisuke's first appearance and Clash of Red and Black except the 1 hour special and I guess the Star Wars parody one. (Detective Boys with the annoyance turned up to 11. Lovely.)

Granted there's one I'm dreading a bit later but for now...*sleeps*
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Re: Conan Episode 593 (The Detective Memoir of Monkey and Ra

Postby ranger » January 5th, 2011, 1:50 am

kkslider5552000 wrote:
ranger wrote: just gayass Sonoko

you shut your mouth! >:(

Besides, at least we didn't have an Ai self-parody worse than movie 5.


Sonoko is cool when she's acting as the deductress queen, but when its just her and Ran giggling about love and poking fun of her and Shinichi (and Ran being like "omg, I don't like him!!..._>") it's pretty roger jolly if you know what I mean.

Also, Conan does the typical 3-Ran inner voice yell in this episode!
"Ran...Ran....RAN!"
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