Detective Conan Movie 14! (The Lost Ship in the Sky) Discuss

[alicetama]

^Kid wasn't out of character. If you read some of the Magic Kaito manga chapters, you'll see that that's what he's actually like.

Well, not quite. As Kuroba Kaito he's happy to be pervy as all hell (until Aoko got panties with fish pictures on them), but he never let that cross over to Kid.

Totally agree that the guy who thought that throwing a small child out of a blimp was a good idea is a bastard.

Ah, I remember that chapter. It was so funny.

Though, I have to say that he probably does let his personality cross into Kid's. Like with Conan vs. Kid vs. Yaiba.

[mangaluva]

^Kid wasn't out of character. If you read some of the Magic Kaito manga chapters, you'll see that that's what he's actually like.

Well, not quite. As Kuroba Kaito he's happy to be pervy as all hell (until Aoko got panties with fish pictures on them), but he never let that cross over to Kid.

Totally agree that the guy who thought that throwing a small child out of a blimp was a good idea is a bastard.

Ah, I remember that chapter. It was so funny.

Though, I have to say that he probably does let his personality cross into Kid's. Like with Conan vs. Kid vs. Yaiba.

Well, the original manga chapter went a bit differently, because it was drawn pre-Conan. It was just Kid vs Yaiba. And it wasn't a dream. And it was AWESOME.

[alicetama]

^Kid wasn't out of character. If you read some of the Magic Kaito manga chapters, you'll see that that's what he's actually like.

Well, not quite. As Kuroba Kaito he's happy to be pervy as all hell (until Aoko got panties with fish pictures on them), but he never let that cross over to Kid.

Totally agree that the guy who thought that throwing a small child out of a blimp was a good idea is a bastard.

Ah, I remember that chapter. It was so funny.

Though, I have to say that he probably does let his personality cross into Kid's. Like with Conan vs. Kid vs. Yaiba.

Well, the original manga chapter went a bit differently, because it was drawn pre-Conan. It was just Kid vs Yaiba. And it wasn't a dream. And it was AWESOME.

Yes, I know, I just read the chapter today.

[ranger]

SUPAAH thread revival!!

Yeah I just watched it, surprisingly good!  I like the way DC movies are heading, I thought it was going to be all downhill after movies 7-12, but 13 and 14 were action-packed and actually interesting.

[thorongil]

watched it last weekend... while i did dislike some points there were many good ones or better said funny ones... the whole thing with conan and kid going offboard and then sato and takagi thinking kudo ist kaitou kid... lmao .. hilarious.... laughed so much with this movie...

[kkslider5552000]

I feel like I need to explain why this movie worked...for what it was.

Don't get me wrong, there was plenty of stupid in this movie and I fully admit I enjoy it more than I should. I just don't see how it's particularly awful.

But more importantly, there is no other series (that I can think of at least) that so desperately needs the occasional extremely different sort of event or plot or anything like that. There can always be too much of a good thing, so if it was just a version of what you see in the anime all the time but with explosions and better art(*cough* Movie 12, parts of 5 *cough*), that wouldn't be as interesting, not worthy of this huge, advertised to death movie. Because once you get past the overuse of characters that don't do anything (Kogoro, Haibara and Sato/Takagi's were the only ones that felt particularly pointless imo), and the stupid action scenes (too many, way too dumb, makes movie 13's climax look like a masterpiece), you have a story that's Conan and Kid and friends vs. Terrorists. And I think that story was done fairly well. It had have some fairly interesting twists, some decent suspense and was just a good story outside of Conan's ability to avoid bullets. However, that's not enough to save the movie from being average at best.

Kid being incredibly awesome is though. After Kirin's horn I thought I was done caring about Kid anymore (and that might still be true as movies aren't canon). But, every single thing Kid did in this movie was just awesome and so fun to watch. Quite fitting that he stole the show. And he is probably the best example of this movie not being a 2 hour version of the anime with added explosions.

His role in the movie avoided problems with the manga.

Is finding out who Kid is going to take up way too much time?
He's revealed in like a minute.

Is he not gonna be around much after that? Not enough maybe but he still did quite a bit and the saving Conan scene up to getting him back inside the blimp was pratically just about Conan and Kid, forced to be friends to battle terrorists.

Well surely there must be some silly trick involving how Kid gets the jewel, right? They're tied up. He grabs it.

Well, enough about Kid, how unoriginal will Ran's part be? ...well, Kid tricks her into thinking he's Shinichi which probably makes more sense than the truth, she ends up almost kissing him and it is an interesting, clever storyline that makes sense considering past continuity and especially references to Kid's appearance. They avoid making her a DiD too, or at the very least do it in a much more clever way.

[ranger]

I feel like I need to explain why this movie worked...for what it was.

Don't get me wrong, there was plenty of stupid in this movie and I fully admit I enjoy it more than I should. I just don't see how it's particularly awful.

But more importantly, there is no other series (that I can think of at least) that so desperately needs the occasional extremely different sort of event or plot or anything like that. There can always be too much of a good thing, so if it was just a version of what you see in the anime all the time but with explosions and better art(*cough* Movie 12, parts of 5 *cough*), that wouldn't be as interesting, not worthy of this huge, advertised to death movie. Because once you get past the overuse of characters that don't do anything (Kogoro, Haibara and Sato/Takagi's were the only ones that felt particularly pointless imo), and the stupid action scenes (too many, way too dumb, makes movie 13's climax look like a masterpiece), you have a story that's Conan and Kid and friends vs. Terrorists. And I think that story was done fairly well. It had have some fairly interesting twists, some decent suspense and was just a good story outside of Conan's ability to avoid bullets. However, that's not enough to save the movie from being average at best.

Kid being incredibly awesome is though. After Kirin's horn I thought I was done caring about Kid anymore (and that might still be true as movies aren't canon). But, every single thing Kid did in this movie was just awesome and so fun to watch. Quite fitting that he stole the show. And he is probably the best example of this movie not being a 2 hour version of the anime with added explosions.

His role in the movie avoided problems with the manga.

Is finding out who Kid is going to take up way too much time?
He's revealed in like a minute.

Is he not gonna be around much after that? Not enough maybe but he still did quite a bit and the saving Conan scene up to getting him back inside the blimp was pratically just about Conan and Kid, forced to be friends to battle terrorists.

Well surely there must be some silly trick involving how Kid gets the jewel, right? They're tied up. He grabs it.

Well, enough about Kid, how unoriginal will Ran's part be? ...well, Kid tricks her into thinking he's Shinichi which probably makes more sense than the truth, she ends up almost kissing him and it is an interesting, clever storyline that makes sense considering past continuity and especially references to Kid's appearance. They avoid making her a DiD too, or at the very least do it in a much more clever way.

tl;dr

jk Slider, I would never do that to you ~ interesting points, and yes, I agree that the whole movie was quite clever in "disguising" itself from being a crappy movie, especially the damsel in distress handling with Ran.  I actually thought she was bearable in this movie, which is surprising.  And you know, I'm okay with less Kogoro and Ai in this one, simply put, if we see too much of them, they lose their pizazz.