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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 1st, 2010, 5:52 pm

Oh, lol.
I didn't consider that you started watching when most of the episodes/manga were already out.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 4:47 pm

Would anyone like to continue the chat about Vermouth?

I'm still wondering why the boss favors her so much.. any theories?

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby alicetama » July 4th, 2010, 5:01 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:Would anyone like to continue the chat about Vermouth?

I'm still wondering why the boss favors her so much.. any theories?

Maybe she(as Sharon) was the boss's favorite actress or something?
Why? You never win the cursed war.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 5:18 pm

alicetama wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Would anyone like to continue the chat about Vermouth?

I'm still wondering why the boss favors her so much.. any theories?

Maybe she(as Sharon) was the boss's favorite actress or something?


I doubt a storyline with so many twist and codes/secrets would make that the reason.
I highly doubt the boss likes Vermouth so much because she is an amazing actress.

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Kleene Onigiri » July 4th, 2010, 5:26 pm

Lover or family member. Or Idol or first test subject on the APTX/other experiments that worked.

Or Anokata just likes blond people? XD
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 5:31 pm

I doubt it is a lover. Vermouth would have WAY more power. Possibly a family member.
But would Vermouth protect Conan/Haibara and not tell her lover/family?

I think the first test subject is a reasonable answer.

I wonder how old Vermouth really is. What if she's actually 200 years old. And re-used the APTX many times. o_o;

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Kleene Onigiri » July 4th, 2010, 5:38 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:I doubt it is a lover. Vermouth would have WAY more power. Possibly a family member.
But would Vermouth protect Conan/Haibara and not tell her lover/family?

I think the first test subject is a reasonable answer.

I wonder how old Vermouth really is. What if she's actually 200 years old. And re-used the APTX many times. o_o;


Well, if she's a family member, then she was forced to work for the BO I guess? So she never learned anything else. Would fit with the "God was never good to me" talk (or whatever she said).
So her getting to know something else (being rescued by her Angel etc.) would make her want to protect Shinichi and Ran.

If she's a test subject, she wouldn't know something else besides being in the BO and killing too.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 5:51 pm

No, I don't think a family member can force you to work for them.
I'm the BO boss, if I force my daughter to work in the BO, and she says no.. I can't kill her.
I would move on.

Well, she is an actress and a quite famous one.
I think she did have a life away from the BO at some point.

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Kleene Onigiri » July 4th, 2010, 5:59 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:No, I don't think a family member can force you to work for them.
I'm the BO boss, if I force my daughter to work in the BO, and she says no.. I can't kill her.
I would move on.

Well, she is an actress and a quite famous one.
I think she did have a life away from the BO at some point.


Your daughter won't say no when she's 3 years old. So if you train her accordingly it will work. And since she thinks "daddy/mommy are the best! So I want to be like them and help them!" there won't be any problems with her rebelling, since she doesn't know anything better.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 6:09 pm

True, so it is a possibility that it's family.
But I don't think it is that simple.

I think the person likes Vermouth for a bigger reason.

Is it possible that Vermouth saved this person before? (From death.)
Or maybe the BOSS is really old, and since the APTX worked on Vermouth, he loves her because he can finally be young again or s/t.

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby alicetama » July 4th, 2010, 6:13 pm

Seduction.

This is a joke. Sort of.
Why? You never win the cursed war.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Detective Tommy » July 4th, 2010, 6:22 pm

alicetama wrote:Seduction.

This is a joke. Sort of.


Huh?

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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » July 4th, 2010, 7:58 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:Would anyone like to continue the chat about Vermouth?

I'm still wondering why the boss favors her so much.. any theories?

Her aging issues is my guess.

Detective Tommy wrote:Or maybe the BOSS is really old, and since the APTX worked on Vermouth, he loves her because he can finally be young again or s/t.
It's unlikely Vermouth took the APTX 4869. While it is likely Sharon is Chris is Vermouth, Sharon's mother may also be Vermouth because she died in a fire on the day Sharon debuted. (vol 35-1 page 2) Sharon may not be Vermouth's first alias. Vermouth would have to be 70-85 if Sharon's mom was the same person. It also likely means that APTX in its current incarnation isn't the source of Vermouth's apparent failure to age. Shiho's parents and their experiments are too young to account for the timepoint. It would have to be Shiho's grandparents or something else.
Also the Org doesn't know Shiho managed to surpass her parent's efforts and make a version of APTX that works (sort of); for them it's only a poison. Why would Vermouth take a poison?
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby alicetama » July 4th, 2010, 8:10 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:
alicetama wrote:Seduction.

This is a joke. Sort of.


Huh?

I mean that, she could've used her beauty and... other stuff to get to the position she's at.
Why? You never win the cursed war.
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Re: Vermouth Only.

Postby Abs. » July 4th, 2010, 11:13 pm

Someone's holding someone hostage, yo.
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