A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Tragedy at the OK corralâ€

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A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Tragedy at the OK corralâ€

Postby Dwalin » June 22nd, 2010, 5:28 pm

I have just seen the episode 251 and there is one thing I don’t understand:
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In this episode there was no real murder – the victim was killed after he attacked another person and accidentally hit his head against a horseshoe. So it was a killing for self-defense.
But Conan at the end says to the man responsible: “You have to pay for what you have doneâ€
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Tragedy at the OK corralâ€

Postby Mead » June 23rd, 2010, 7:13 am

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For Ninomyia nailing the weapon to a horses foot (causing it pain), thus trying to hide his involvement and cause the horse to be blamed. And for Okusu feeding the horse chocolate to help help hide the accident. These two actions are very criminal and turns two people who proabaly would have not gotten jail time to a murderer and someone who would be an accomplice.

Had he called the police right after the accident, it would have easily been able to been seen as self-defense, but by hiding it it makes him much more liable to be convicted of murder, why? Becasue Ninomyia's word is all he had, Conan never proved that he was attacked, and I think there is no acutal proof that it was indeed self-defense, and as I mentioned, hiding it makes Ninomyia's case much harder to defend.

Even if Ninomyia and Okusu aren't charged for murder, they will be charged with covering it up. Animal cruelty charges may apply too, but I'm no scholar in Japanese law, so I don't know all of what they could face.
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Traged

Postby Dwalin » June 23rd, 2010, 8:32 am

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Mead wrote:Had he called the police right after the accident, it would have easily been able to been seen as self-defense, but by hiding it it makes him much more liable to be convicted of murder, why? Becasue Ninomyia's word is all he had, Conan never proved that he was attacked, and I think there is no acutal proof that it was indeed self-defense, and as I mentioned, hiding it makes Ninomyia's case much harder to defend.


But why did Conan turn Ninomiya in if he knew he could be charged for murder even though he only killed in self-defense and could be convicted for something he hadn't done only because self-defense couldn't be proved? Wouldn't that be against his principles? Or didn't Conan believe Ninomiya?
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Traged

Postby xGinx » June 23rd, 2010, 11:00 am

One of the worsts Episodes EVER.
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Traged

Postby kkslider5552000 » June 23rd, 2010, 1:38 pm

almost all of the AOs in the 200s that I've seen are awful. (mostly because they are BORING)
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Traged

Postby Mead » June 23rd, 2010, 1:39 pm

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But why did Conan turn Ninomiya in if he knew he could be charged for murder even though he only killed in self-defense and could be convicted for something he hadn't done only because self-defense couldn't be proved? Wouldn't that be against his principles? Or didn't Conan believe Ninomiya?


Conan didn't know that it was in self-defense until Ninomiya confessed, and regardless, Hiding it and trying to blame an animal were criminal and wrongful actions they took after the fact. They needed to pay for what they did to hide it, becasue hiding a accidental death is tantamount to murder in many people's eyes, the guy died, and instead of taking responsibility he hid it. I doubt Conan would want to let them off the hook and let a horse possibly be put down becasue they didn't kill the guy. Conan doesn't make exceptions like that becasue it's not just. This isn't the only case where this happens.
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Re: A question about the ending of episode 251 – “Traged

Postby scineram » June 26th, 2010, 8:35 am

It's BS. Frankly it's AO, but there are some stupid manga cases too. I'm watching Practice now and those guys would pick apart most of his cases like tornado a kennel.
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