Case Closed I think may be officially dead

[Jd-]

Fact: All of Conan will be fansubbed by the time FUNi dubs another episode of Conan.

[Abs.]

Fact: All of Conan will be fansubbed by the time FUNi dubs another episode of Conan.

That's a fact, Jack!

[skyechan]

Well, I'm keeping my hopes up for more movie releases. Pretty sure they're done with the series itself though.

[Nyarl]

I find it hard to believe that the new movies were recorded anywhere around the same time that the series was considering the MASSIVE improvement that I saw from the movie 5 dub.

I got it confirmed a long time ago that pretty much everything was done at around the exact same time. Most of the stuff was just waiting to be released. One can only assume that they improved as they went along, because starting with the Mist Goblin Murder Case is when the dub REALLY starts to improve.

They had the licensed episodes up to 130 dubbed by the end of 2004 or early 2005, but after a few years hiatus the VAs did do new work on some movies. Pretty sure movie 5 was dubbed years after episode 130.

I think one of the problems was FUNi's mis-handling of the marketing. The show did well on [adult swim] for the 12-18 demographic, and they never really capitalized on it.

Kind dumb a top 20 show in any demographic was scorned by the TV execs. Especially since it was getting those ratings at 1AM. (We aren't just talking about top ratings for 1AM shows, folks, Case Closed episodes were repeatedly among the top 20 out of all shows broadcast in a week, meaning it got more 12-17 year old viewers than most shows broadcast in the afternoons, in prime time... etc... I guess no one really cared about the 12-17 demographic, though.)

[Shiku]

I find it hard to believe that the new movies were recorded anywhere around the same time that the series was considering the MASSIVE improvement that I saw from the movie 5 dub.

I got it confirmed a long time ago that pretty much everything was done at around the exact same time. Most of the stuff was just waiting to be released. One can only assume that they improved as they went along, because starting with the Mist Goblin Murder Case is when the dub REALLY starts to improve.

They had the licensed episodes up to 130 dubbed by the end of 2004 or early 2005, but after a few years hiatus the VAs did do new work on some movies. Pretty sure movie 5 was dubbed years after episode 130.
It hasn't been years after 130 it was released not to long ago like last year.

I think one of the problems was FUNi's mis-handling of the marketing. The show did well on [adult swim] for the 12-18 demographic, and they never really capitalized on it.

Kind dumb a top 20 show in any demographic was scorned by the TV execs. Especially since it was getting those ratings at 1AM. (We aren't just talking about top ratings for 1AM shows, folks, Case Closed episodes were repeatedly among the top 20 out of all shows broadcast in a week, meaning it got more 12-17 year old viewers than most shows broadcast in the afternoons, in prime time... etc... I guess no one really cared about the 12-17 demographic, though.)

[Nyarl]

It hasn't been years after 130 it was released not to long ago like last year.

Right, they released it years after they dubbed it. Back in 2004 Harley's VA posted on the Adult Swim forum that he did work on the first Osaka case.

[ranger]

How hard is it really to get a license?  Is the difficulty the issue, or simply because they think of it as a lost cause?

[SnakeBlue]

we have to face it, the adult world doesn't actualy pay any attention to what matters. they decide to ignore the largest percentage of the population in favor of the group they want to be the largest. (ignoring teens in favor of young familys that is.) after catching me watching it, even my eight year old cousin is facinated by Case Closed.

I know one person by themself won't help much but I've bought the first season of it in the hope that somehow my $40 might be enough to make it worth licencing more seasons. (will buy the other five as quickly as I can.)

[Akemi~chan]

How hard is it really to get a license?  Is the difficulty the issue, or simply because they think of it as a lost cause?

it's the difficulty of getting the lisence,translating it, convincing the japanese publishers to get the rights and then start production on the dub

[tantei okuoku]

The movies have sold VERY well for funi.

Where did you hear this?

Also, FUNimation has been sending out e-mails for a few months now to people who ask about this subject. This is what they've responded with:

"Thank you for your email and interest in FUNimation. Unfortunately, there are no current plans to continue dubbing the episodes of Case Closed past season 5. The good news is you can keep up with Detective Conan through our releases of the Case Closed movies. Movies 1-5 are in stores now. Look for movie 6 later this winter.

Stay connected with FUNimation by visiting blog.FUNimation.com for the latest in FUNimation news."

Granted, it's a little different now that the movies have been out, but the e-mails pretty much have the same message.

If what Akemi~chan says is true, then it's definitely a step up from what the status was a few months ago.

I think one of the problems was FUNi's mis-handling of the marketing. The show did well on [adult swim] for the 12-18 demographic, and they never really capitalized on it.
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they said on the ANNcast funi people, that case closed season sets has not sold well enough, however the movies have sold well for them.

[MDSH]

Hmmm..I think it could have to do with the name change.  A high majority of American anime viewers seem to be stuck on Naruto and Bleach.  They go on the internet and search them and find subbed episodes or chapters, but if you look up Case Closed, as it's known in America, you just seem to find what's already out in America.  Not many people know it's actually Detective Conan so they don't really look for it.  Or at least that's what I think 

[kkslider5552000]

A high majority of American anime viewers seem to be stuck on Naruto and Bleach.  They go on the internet and search them and find subbed episodes or chapters, but if you look up Case Closed, as it's known in America, you just seem to find what's already out in America.  Not many people know it's actually Detective Conan so they don't really look for it.  Or at least that's what I think 

Saying that a majority of any group of people watch subbed episodes is a blatant lie

[Mead]

I think the main reason the seasons aren't selling as well is becasue there is no incentive for fans to buy them. First is that it's a mystery, so there are plenty that find little re-watch value after having seen it on [AS]. Also, the quality of the Dub isn't as good as it could have been, the movies weren't shown before and a good number of them have much better dub quality. Which may be why they sell better.

What would have sold the sets would have been adding in a good number of extras for the fans who have seen the superior sub version of the episodes. What they really need is to get it back on TV, but in absence of that I think if they started dubbing the series again the newer seasons would sell well if they took the same approach as the recent movies, added in good extras to hook fans, and I think the best way to approach the series would be to not Dub in a liner order, but start Dubbing the Manga Based cases/specials only to get to the parts the fans would pay to see.

What I really think they should do is ask the fans to pick the episodes they want dubbed and release a best cases set. That would really generate interest among the fandom. Becasue if they can't hook new people, they can at least appeal to the people who have been watching the series online.

[tangytangerine]

If Funi is going to license more episodes, I'm guessing it won't be this year. 

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-05-15/funimation-adds-rosario+vampire-anime-more

Seems that they're more focused on new anime than older series at the moment.  Although I am kinda glad a couple of those series are getting releases.  Kinda odd though that they're not picking up any more episodes, since it's hard to find some of the season sets right now(in stores at least).

[kkslider5552000]

Although I am kinda glad a couple of those series are getting releases.

I've heard only bad things about ALL of those anime except Chaos Head. Especially Rosario Vampire (it's a vampire pantyshot series *headdesk*)