Case Closed I think may be officially dead

[ranger]

They released a whole bunch of movies recently and some viridian collections (aka repackaged season DVDs) for some more dinero.

I sort of saw this as a "test", seeing if they could make money still with this franchise/or try to make enough for season 6.  There are also rumors that the recently released movies were already recorded a long time ago, and just only did Funi finally wrap them up for the public masses.

Seeing how we haven't heard some news for a while, and probably judging on the fact that the movies and repackaged season sets weren't that big of a success, Case Closed just might be dead.  Officially.

What you think, are we going to see Case Closed again in America, or do you think this was the final death toll?

[Umandsf]

I don't think it's dead yet. I've heard that the new releases have had moderate success, at least. There is a 90-minute panel at ACen on Sunday, so there might be news there, although I have heard that if there is any more, it won't be coming out until at least 2011. Overall, I think it's not over. The next season will get the story moving somewhat, so I'm sure that's an incentive for people to go buy it.

[Tenken]

I wonder why DC is not so popular in America. Is the name change part of the fault ?

[ranger]

to be fair the US seems to only like really violent anime/manga or ones that incorporate fighting/action, go figure right?

I don't think it's dead yet. I've heard that the new releases have had moderate success, at least. There is a 90-minute panel at ACen on Sunday, so there might be news there, although I have heard that if there is any more, it won't be coming out until at least 2011. Overall, I think it's not over. The next season will get the story moving somewhat, so I'm sure that's an incentive for people to go buy it.

Enough success to finance a whole season? If the rumor that the movies were past recordings, that means they haven't gotten anyone in studio for a verry long time, and they didnt want to spend money on recording a new movie.  Every US anime/manga fan I think has heard of DC, because it's so immensely popular in Japan, but no one really cares/knows about it; other than the fact that there is a kid detective, the general masses don't know much more than that.

[Umandsf]

Could be lack of marketing. Could be lack of knowledge. Could be because very few channels will have a problem airing it on TV. I think it's gotten to the point where it has to be made popular by word of mouth. I myself have seen this in action, so it works.

[Akemi~chan]

Allison Viktorin says there are no plans at the moment for new case closed episodes. they just finished the movies and right now they're trying to get the lisences for new episodes but it's difficult. i'm freinds with her on youtube, i just had to ask.

[tantei okuoku]

The movies have sold VERY well for funi. the season sets not quite as well but still respectable. the turn around between the regular and VC was so fast because they sold out of them so quickly, people are buying case closed now, however we can not rest on our lorals yet, people still need to buy it, if they do we can get some more seasons out of them I think.

[kkslider5552000]

I have to admit it will be somehow hilarious if they never get to the more awesome parts of Conan.

I find it hard to believe that the new movies were recorded anywhere around the same time that the series was considering the MASSIVE improvement that I saw from the movie 5 dub.

[Umandsf]

Yeah. I mean, they did only announce the licensing of those movies last year, and from what I heard, it was just as their current licensing of the series was ending.

[CarpetCrawler]

I find it hard to believe that the new movies were recorded anywhere around the same time that the series was considering the MASSIVE improvement that I saw from the movie 5 dub.

I got it confirmed a long time ago that pretty much everything was done at around the exact same time. Most of the stuff was just waiting to be released. One can only assume that they improved as they went along, because starting with the Mist Goblin Murder Case is when the dub REALLY starts to improve.

The movies have sold VERY well for funi.

Where did you hear this?

Also, FUNimation has been sending out e-mails for a few months now to people who ask about this subject. This is what they've responded with:

"Thank you for your email and interest in FUNimation. Unfortunately, there are no current plans to continue dubbing the episodes of Case Closed past season 5. The good news is you can keep up with Detective Conan through our releases of the Case Closed movies. Movies 1-5 are in stores now. Look for movie 6 later this winter.

Stay connected with FUNimation by visiting blog.FUNimation.com for the latest in FUNimation news."

Granted, it's a little different now that the movies have been out, but the e-mails pretty much have the same message.

If what Akemi~chan says is true, then it's definitely a step up from what the status was a few months ago.

I think one of the problems was FUNi's mis-handling of the marketing. The show did well on [adult swim] for the 12-18 demographic, and they never really capitalized on it.

[ranger]

I think one of the problems was FUNi's mis-handling of the marketing. The show did well on [adult swim] for the 12-18 demographic, and they never really capitalized on it.

The fact that it was on adult swim was a bad choice in the first place,  most 12-18 year olds wouldn't be up late around it's air time on weekdays.  If it was on toonami like how DBZ, yu yu hakusho was it would of done a lot better.  Not dissing Adult Swim though, that shit used to rule - but I never watched it w/ permission since it was so late.

[Akemi~chan]

from what i heard Case Closed sales are Decent but it's been on the back burner for years. with new anime coming in it's been set aside. now that japan has recognized conan as very popular and the rising success of the new movies it's been getting alittle more popular here in the states so they dubbed the movies but that's the problem. it's hard getting the lisence to dub it and keeping the lisence long enough, conan is a long series and it's difficult to get the rights to dub it and the movies. if it keeps up they're just gonna put it on the back burners again.

[SnakeBlue]

I can say for a fact that Case Closed managed to almost miss the Canadian market, it showed up on YTV for less than one season a while back and then cut off. if they hadn't done that I never would have even heard of it, and I almost didn't watch it because it replaced .Hack.
if every fan came at them at once with a pettition or something we might be able to get a favorable response out of FUNimation. I've been watching their news blog and there is always someone begging for more Case Closed when they announce new episodes, one person at a time just can't get through.

[Introuble]

I wonder why DC is not so popular in America. Is the name change part of the fault ?

Reasons why Detective Conan is not so popular in America.
a) Mystery genre.
b) Given a picture of an anime with a little kid named Detective Conan people tend to mistake it for a children's show without even watching it.
c) DC wasn't given a decent timeslot. (America)
d) They only dubbed around 100+ episodes and because of this people only saw the repetitive side of Conan.
e) Conan's great turn into a mind boggling anime in my opinion starts with the reunion with the Black Organization which is waaaay into the series.
f) Length.

Because of this majority of anime fans aren't aware that DC has...
a) A great plot involving a shrunken Detective teaming up with the CIA and FBI against a deadly criminal organization.
b) Several inhumane plot twists
c) Overwhelmingly amounts of thrill,action,suspense when it comes to BO episodes.
d) In fact quite a lot of people are even unaware of Shinichi's shrinking. They think that Conan is just a prodigy crime solving nerd kid.
e) Several insane cases which can make a person love mystery.
f) Great specials such as episode 304
g) Several other things.

Basically barely anyone knows about the Black Organization which makes DC a lot more interesting. In other words several people are unaware of it's plot. These people also think of Conan as repetitive,childish and everything I've said above. - (Well, that's my opinion )

[randompi314159]

I'm hoping they continue the dub, they almost reached the extremely plot relevant episodes as well. And I agree on most of the points stated, the only dubbed episodes were not as important episodes (not that some weren't good) and made the show appear to have no plot development what-so-ever. And I think it was quite hard to find a time slot and station to place the show. As the show has a lot of deaths and murders and related things, it might've been awkward for some stations to place at appropriate times, but it also had a "kiddish" tone meaning the deaths weren't as heavy and gory as other shows out there, so it was out of place on Adult Swim (I think I could've worded that better, but I can't think of one currently).