Kogoro's Thread

[Nyarl]

Hopeless slacker with lots of vices bound for self-destruction? Down on his luck detective who, thanks to Shin'ichi's help, will turn it all around by the end? Future career celebrity who only pays occasional lip service to being a detective while making his real living by doing guest spots in games, TV shows and advertisements? Discuss all that and more here, in the thread dedicated to him.

[Sebolains]

I really like Kogoro, and the only reason for that is that he's sort of a fuck-up. That makes him more real, I don't know. Plus, beneath his drunkenness, he's a great father, and probably a good enough detective. Although I think he'd make a better police man. They should just let him bak in.

[Conia]

I really like Kogoro, and the only reason for that is that he's sort of a fuck-up. That makes him more real, I don't know. Plus, beneath his drunkenness, he's a great father, and probably a good enough detective. Although I think he'd make a better police man. They should just let him bak in.

If Conan never appeared, I think he would have gone back to the police

[Sebolains]

I really like Kogoro, and the only reason for that is that he's sort of a fuck-up. That makes him more real, I don't know. Plus, beneath his drunkenness, he's a great father, and probably a good enough detective. Although I think he'd make a better police man. They should just let him bak in.

If Conan never appeared, I think he would have gone back to the police

probably. Can you go back after they fire you, though?

[Conia]

I really like Kogoro, and the only reason for that is that he's sort of a fuck-up. That makes him more real, I don't know. Plus, beneath his drunkenness, he's a great father, and probably a good enough detective. Although I think he'd make a better police man. They should just let him bak in.

If Conan never appeared, I think he would have gone back to the police

probably. Can you go back after they fire you, though?

Not really sure... Maybe he could teach newcomers, since he has the experience of being in the police

[Sebolains]

Not really sure... Maybe he could teach newcomers, since he has the experience of being in the police

Yeah, there's no way in hell Kogoro's ever gonna be a teacher...

Wait... he was a tutor once, right?

[Conia]

Not really sure... Maybe he could teach newcomers, since he has the experience of being in the police

Yeah, there's no way in hell Kogoro's ever gonna be a teacher...

Wait... he was a tutor once, right?

Maybe, I can't remember it though He can be a good teacher if he CONCENTRATES on what he is doing.

[xGinx]

Not really sure... Maybe he could teach newcomers, since he has the experience of being in the police

Yeah, there's no way in hell Kogoro's ever gonna be a teacher...

Wait... he was a tutor once, right?

Yes, he was.

[dilbertschalter]

Not really sure... Maybe he could teach newcomers, since he has the experience of being in the police

Yeah, there's no way in hell Kogoro's ever gonna be a teacher...

Wait... he was a tutor once, right?

Yes, he was.

The episode where that is mentioned is an AO. Though I don't care much about the distinction between for character evaluation purposes (the only time I see it as being relevant is for predicting future events), it's still worth noting.

(unless there was another episode where that was mentioned)

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Kogoro is definitely one of my top three favorite characters and also one of the most mysterious ones personal-history-wise and plotwise. He is a good mix of humor, idiocy, and seriousness. I like that he is flawed - it makes him human. He is also a comedy couple with Eri. I have a theory about him being connected to the org which I'm going to put in a spoiler box so those of you who have read it once need not be assaulted by it again...

Spoiler: not a spoiler- just saving space

1) There is a conspicuous absence of anything pertaining to Kogoro's family background. He's a main character and absolutely nothing has been mentioned even in passing about any of his kin beyond Ran. Considering the length of the manga and that character history stories are otherwise quite common, I believe this omission is intentional. I can think of three situations that would account for the censorship.
a) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family has a critical connection or position in the Org. I do not support the theory that Kogoro himself is part of the Crow Corps, but with the family name "Mouri", and its difficult-to-ignore resemblance to "Moriarty" from the Sherlock canon, I think that this theory concerning relatives on the dark side holds thematic appeal.
b) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family was a victim of the Org, and that the circumstances/mystery behind it are a major clue to one of the central mysteries like the identity of the boss, or the org's name, etc.
c) Kogoro's background relations are not important or non-existent. I think this explanation is weak because it goes against Gosho's style. The vast majority of the main and secondary characters have had some member of their family brought up, often as participants or suspects in cases, as motivation for why the character is where they are now, or simply mentioned in passing. The idea that Gosho would ignore using Kogoro's family for any case/plot purposes without a genuinely good reason for (as of now) 717 chapters is unreasonable.
The reasons why a relative of Kogoro can't be introduced too early could be one or more of the following:
a) It would be too big of a hint.
b) It would call unwanted attention and suspicion where Gosho does not yet want it.
c) It serves as a major plot key which will enable Conan to solve a very important mystery.
Given that this censorship on Kogoro's kin has been going on since the very beginning of the manga, it would be logical to assume that the reason is pertinent to the overarching mysteries - namely what is the true nature of the Org, who is the boss, and what is its goal.
Also assuming Gosho had an idea where he was going with DC since he started writing it, he would probably construct the ending so that in case DC turned out to be only sort of popular, he could end it quickly using the available characters. As DC became more complicated in the Haibara and then Vermouth arcs when more characters were introduced, he probably started expounding on the final solution while keeping the original core the same.
In short, I believe it is reasonable to assume that Kogoro has (or had) one or more plot-significant family members who have (or had) vital connections to the Black Org, as either victims or members.
As for Kogoro's background, we know he went to Teitan high along with Yukiko Fujimine and Eri Kisaki, followed by Beika University where he was in a Judo club. Ten years ago, he was still on the police force and had to deal with a murder mystery at a warehouse in Haido port. Apparently it was pretty dangerous at that time (571). Kogoro was also suspicious of people wearing black, but it could be due to stupidity (571.13). While Movie 2 strongly suggests that Kogoro left the police force because of the incident where he fired upon Eri Kisaki who was held as a hostage, his reasons for leaving the force were not confirmed in the manga.

[kirite]

Ah Chekhov your post are so awesome.  I don't mind reading it again at all.

I can't really recall chapters where they talk about how Kogoro was in high school.  I know that he's good in Judo but can never do competitions.  He's childhoods friend with Eri.  He likes smart girls (cough Eri.  He's popular with the pretty girl(s).  I recall his face with a band-aids for some reason.  Did he get into fights or was a delinquent or something like that?   

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Ah Chekhov your post are so awesome.  I don't mind reading it again at all.

I can't really recall chapters where they talk about how Kogoro was in high school.  I know that he's good in Judo but can never do competitions.  He's childhoods friend with Eri.  He likes smart girls (cough Eri.  He's popular with the pretty girl(s).  I recall his face with a band-aids for some reason.  Did he get into fights or was a delinquent or something like that?    

He was described as a bit of a delinquent and that it was strange Eri was attracted to him at all. The case where we get the most backstory into his youth is the murder at a winter villa being used a set for a drama. One of the actors is a childhood fiend of his who crushed on him. I forget the chapter/episode. It's the one where Kogoro says he likes grey more than black because it's a warmer color... Conan used his dart earlier so he had to hint to Kogoro the answer, but Kogoro nailed the case mostly by himself. The judo one is one of the earlier cases where they had a reunion of Judo friends. It's the first case where Kogoro got serious if I remember.

[Misztina]

What we do know, and maybe movie 2 wasn't that far-fetched after all, is that Kogoro wasn't in good terms with firearms. Or so as he said in "Death on TV" -case.

About deliquentcy Shinichi had many bondages on as a child and you wouldn't call him a deliquent. Though he did look a bit like Harima from School Rumble.

[RedPoppy]

I've a feeling that Kogoro won't be so popular after the big ending. He's still not able to solve cases on his own, he still needs Conan's hints to reveal the truth, so when people will see that Kogoro become stupid, lazy detective again, he won't get many cases, besides Shinichi will get back to his "work", so Kogoro will have a rival again.
Kogoro in a TV show, adveristments, as a teacher?? Impossible, because he will lose his popularity and he WOULD NEVER be a good teacher neither in judo class nor in police. I guess the best way for him is coming back to the police (if it's possible)... Hmm... If Kogoro and Eri get together, he won't need any job at all. Eri's an one of the best lawyers, her income is probably pretty high, so she can provide the family on her own.

[dilbertschalter]

What we do know, and maybe movie 2 wasn't that far-fetched after all, is that Kogoro wasn't in good terms with firearms. Or so as he said in "Death on TV" -case.

About deliquentcy Shinichi had many bondages on as a child and you wouldn't call him a deliquent. Though he did look a bit like Harima from School Rumble.

Not in good terms with firearms? Wasn't one of his best attributes being an excellent marksman?