Is Conan Getting Stale?

[Vylash]

In my opinion, conan is extremely boring now, I remember when I first discovered DC, it was great, I looked forward to every episode, but after a while, with the annoyingly slow plot progression, I've become extremely annoyed with it, I don't think conan should have lasted this long, personally I'd prefer 200-250 episodes, what do you guys think? (and could we avoid the whole "OMGZOMG! DC IS LIKE SO AWSM" please?) 

[Girl19]

OMGZOMG! DC IS LIKE SO AWSM

[ranger]

Yeah, I know what you mean.  I used to watch every episode, but recently I've been watching only manga case episodes, simply because the AO are so poorly written and have no true development to the plot or characters.

I think since 540 it's been getting a bit boring, then again that might just because I was still marathon watching until 540.  When you're marathoning, it's just much more interesting, knowing that another episode awaits you just around the corner, so that slow-plot progression is nullified


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NANII? omg i just noticed my post count was changed to "leet", did I have 1337 or something?  haha when did you guys change it?

Aw cock, it's gone now.

[Vylash]

OMGZOMG! DC IS LIKE SO AWSM

i knew it would be you 

[baka1412]

DC would be more awesome with more pantsu-shot... I know it very well, every other shounen Manga did it...

[bluekaitou1412]

OMGZOMG! DC IS LIKE SO AWSM

i knew it would be you 

I could've done that, but Noooooo Girl19 has to do it because she's smarter and crazier blah blah blah



Actually, you have a point Parkur. Lately, I'm getting bored with the cases, and the DB seem to appear lots of the time like they're the only existing characters in the series! Earlier on I was ecstatic whenever a new anime ep comes out but now I'm too lazy to watch the damn thing!

[AICHAN]

hmmm....seems like i'm not the only one who's getting bored lately i think most of the cases are repetitive,even the culprit motives are annoying...i have many books of DC(vol1 to vol49) but i have to say i take more pleasure to re read volumes 1 to 42 than the other books...
now i skip a lot of cases until something interesting happen(BO,haibara centered cases...)that's sad

[Misztina]

It depends on how you look at Conan. I tend to complain that a case is boring or something, but I can pinpoint only two cases which were really-really boring for me. Oh, no, actually that's three. Nevermind.

But... the anime has its faults, AOs are usually weird and rip off of movies. XD But... if we just accept that this is Conan, then it is quite fun. ^^

[Abs.]

What happened was:
1) AOs got crappier, and
2) They started noticeably stretching cases out to fill two episodes, i.e. there is a lot of reiteration and "previously on Conan..." that don't contribute anything to the story.  This leads to lots of two-episode cases that don't fulfill viewers as much as a two-episode case rightfully should.  Equals boring.

[Kleene Onigiri]

I think I know what you mean. But most long running animes tend to become boring at some points, or you don't like the flow of the story anymore.

But I guess it's also psychological matter, that most people think it's boring right now. Since there were a lot of exciting plot related cases, you want to see more of them. So the story had it's high moments (peaks) and is going down atm. Thus seeing a AO or filler case will get you bored.
At the beginning of the series you didn't have much information of the plot/story (no big excitement) so it wasn't a big deal when there was just a normal murder case.

But there is a good chance that it will be more exciting for you again. Because even if there is "calm" right now, there will be plot-related cases again for sure! (At least that's my opinion. Because the chance to get good exciting cases/plot in DC again is higher than in other long-running animes which bores me to death D:)


For me it's still better to have 500+ episodes than just ~30 and a random ending although the manga is still running. (soul eater for example)

[dilbertschalter]

Yes, very much so. I still download every episode right when it comes out (though I don't read the manga except for plot cases because I don't like manga much in general). However, the cases having been getting worse since around 300 (by worse I mean "the same tricks are used"). Whenever I watch a new episode, whether it's AO or manga based, I can't help but feel as though I've seen the trick or plot devide before. People like to complain about the AOs, but they've always been the less interesting part- the manga has reached a point where there are only a few interesting cases a year. Right now, a change of scenery is the only thing I can think of in terms of a way to reduce the boringness. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen because it becomes a lot harder to make fillers if the story shifted to some far off
locale (or even Osaka).

But I guess it's also psychological matter, that most people think it's boring right now. Since there were a lot of exciting plot related cases, you want to see more of them. So the story had it's high moments (peaks) and is going down atm. Thus seeing a AO or filler case will get you bored.
At the beginning of the series you didn't have much information of the plot/story (no big excitement) so it wasn't a big deal when there was just a normal murder case.

I don't think the issue is with the plot. I've never been a huge fan of DC's plot (it has tons of holes and paper thin characters), it's with the standard cases.

[Detective Prince]

I admit some of the cases lately are getting boring but I definitly don't think it should of ended at 200 something episode no no no. This is what makes DC awesome. You can go back and watch almost every episode an learn something. Mayne you guys are just to old for DC? 

[Nyarl]

In my opinion, conan is extremely boring now, I remember when I first discovered DC, it was great, I looked forward to every episode, but after a while, with the annoyingly slow plot progression, I've become extremely annoyed with it, I don't think conan should have lasted this long, personally I'd prefer 200-250 episodes, what do you guys think? (and could we avoid the whole "OMGZOMG! DC IS LIKE SO AWSM" please?)  :-*

The point of the manga was always to tell mystery short stories. Every single one of them is a "main plot" that's resolved quickly. I don't see why there should be a limit to their number as long as Aoyama is still honestly inspired to write them well and isn't just griding them out sloppily. There's also more overarching continuity than just Org. stuff. Whether or not that stuff is interesting or boring to you is a matter of purely subjective aesthetics.

That said I think the Org. continuity is dragging (and would be even without the mystery short stories "getting in the way"). Did we really need the Kir/Esiuke stuff? If Vermouth really likes Conan/Shin'ichi, couldn't she leak info to him? Do we really need Bourbon? Gin seemed wise to the ways of detectives and a competent deducer when he stopped Conan's plan to trap Vodka. He was implied to be competent enough with disguises that Haibara thought observing his handedness was important. He was already a good enough nemesis for Shin'ichi. Also, what happened to his lingering suspicion of Kogoro even after he saw Shuichi? (Unless my Eri is Org. theory is right, and she had Goro bugged to prove Kogoro's incompetence, Gin should have done something about Kogoro after "killing" Shuichi, if only just enough to prove that killing him was an unnecessary waste of resources. We get nothing... and it's not just the "filler" that can be blamed for slowing it down, the whole Bourbon angle is a distraction.) That stuff is hurting the Org. related tension, not aiding it, IMO. Even if it's all going to make sense after the next big reveal or two, I think Aoyama at least needed to show us one of his cards, like he did by showing us Chris was Vermouth.

I don't think the issue is with the plot. I've never been a huge fan of DC's plot (it has tons of holes...).

Like what? Until Kir showed up it was pretty solid, at least where the anime didn't add the holes.

[kkslider5552000]

it's basically impossible for a 500+ episode series to not be at least somewhat stale and it certainly isn't as brilliant as it was in the 100s/200s but it's still awesome outside of AOs. Sure, this BETTER be the last arc that takes forever and focuses on a mystery character/characters but it has been extremely well done at the beginning and recently, which (unless the conclusion of the arc end up being disappointing) makes it far better than the Eisuke arc which was mostly lame until the Dark Photograph (not to mention the fact that basically nothing interesting happened in ANY CASE after 425 until the Toichi case).

@ Nyarl (too lazy to quote lol): While I do agree the plot is dragging too much, I doubt they are useless. Just that the characters and character development could be done in a shorter span of time. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if after this arc that they start introducing BO members with only like...3 cases (or they just randomly appear like Chianti and Korn).

And the only recent manga based cases that seem to be completely pointless are the last Azusa case and the Sushi case (although to be fair, I refuse to count Kid cases even if it is ever revealed that the Organizations are not related). And the Sushi case in the manga had the intro from the anime version of Blue Spark of Hatred. The Eri subplot isn't that good so you can also not count that if you want to.

also:
White Witch: Inspector Yamamura and his grandmother rule. The case itself was somewhat unique for Conan too (and the way the "impossibility" of the White Witch was built up was extremely well done) and it had one of my favorite exchanges of dialogue in the entire series.
Kogoro: Yamamura-kei...ji 
Yamamura:  >:(
Ran: ...Yamamura-keibu! 
Sushi case: good but way too boring case.
Genta's Dad: decent case with an AWESOME ending.
Nerds like us notice it's Yamato immediately case: Why was the conversation about Okiya at the beginning more interesting than most of the last two cases he appeared in? Despite knowing who it was, it was still really fun.
Red Wall case: WANT MORE. NOW. Koumei is awesome. Yamato is awesome. Yui is awesome. KILLING MOVE: DRILL PUNCH made me officially a fan of Kogoro's new voice. The overly complicated last episode of the case was awesome.
Bank Robbery: Stupid robbers, awesome everything else. AKAI SHOOTS FAT MAN. DETECTIVE BOYS BLOW UP ELEVATOR AND DON'T ANNOY ME ONCE DURING THE CASE SOMEHOW. ANDRE FN CAMEL.
Cherry Blossom Memories: Case was too simple and I don't like one possible suspect cases AND it was obvious to me something good would happen to Shiratori by the end of the case. However, all of the characters seemed to be more awesome than usual and the dialogue...well this case just worked despite the fact it shouldn't have. Kobayashi is random.

imo

[Sakina]

It's the calm before the storm.