Shuichi & Jodie

[tenshi8]

Stupid question, I know, but do Shuichi & Jodie know Conan's real identity? I've always assumed so, but now, I'm second-guessing my knowledge of Conan-canon.

1) If they do know, when and how did they find out? When did Conan confirm their suspicions?

2) If they don't know, why are they involving a 7-year-old, smart though he may be, in their investigations?

I ask b/c I've always assumed they know, but I was rereading the official Chinese translation of vol. 57, and in a phone convo with Jodie while at Agasa's house, Conan says "Ran-neechan." Was that just habit or a sign that he must stay in character to talk to Jodie?

Or am I overthinking?

[Commi-Ninja]

Honestly, I'm wondering the same thing.

You would think they'd know, since it makes no sense to involve a seven-year old otherwise, but maybe they want whatever help they can get?

My guess is that if Jodie doesn't know, she at least has some sort of clue.  As for Shuichi, there's no telling what he knows.  He's an enigma. haha.

[Conia]

As Commi-Ninja said, Jodie may have a clue, Akai doesn't. Both know Conan isn't a normal kid, just like Takagi, but Akai considers him a powerful ally, no matter if he is an anormal kid or a High School shruken Detective.

[Xytan]

That is one thing that's always bothered me about Takagi, he never took the initiative to run Conan's fingerprints or something?

As for Jodie - She has her scrapbook collection but I'm fairly confident that she doesn't know.

As said Shuuichi does not know either but is in a similar boat to Takagi.

http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... s_identity

Perhaps I should take the effort to update that?

[Tanner-kun]

No the FBI don't know Conan is Shinichi. The reason they let him help was because he had a wire tap planted on a black org member why would they not try to get that info, Conan come up with the water sprinkler plain, plus in the "Panda Case" Conan helped James.

[kkslider5552000]

they'll figure it out eventually

probably Akai before anyone else as he already knowsHaibara is Shiho

[Conia]

probably Akai before anyone else as he already knowsHaibara is Shiho

Akai is the type of guy who knows everything out of nowhere, so maybe he already figured out, specially if he is Okiya

[mangaluva]

I think Akai knows. I'm in the "Akai=Okiya" camp, and since Okiya's been seen thinking of Conan as Shinichi then it's safe to assume that he knows. He already seemed to know that Ai was Shiho, so it wouldn''t be too hard to figure it out once he noticed that Conan wasn't a normal kid, which is beyond obvious in the contexts where they see each other. We also don't know precisely what they talked about on the roof of the hospital where Rena was kept. It's presumed that they just went over the plan, but there's a possibility that other information was exchanged; they seemed to be working as equals after that.

As for Jodie, I think she's very aware that Conan's not a normal kid, but I don't think she's aware that he's Kudo Shinichi. She once asked Vermouth why she called Conan "Cool Guy" when he's just a kid and thought she was making a mistake thinking Ai was Sherry. I think she's curious about Conan but doesn't think that he might actually be an adult.

[Detective Prince]

Watch this turn into a pairing thread...lol

No the FBI don't know Conan is Shinichi. The reason they let him help was because he had a wire tap planted on a black org member why would they not try to get that info, Conan come up with the water sprinkler plain, plus in the "Panda Case" Conan helped James.

Orrrr. They realize they are nothing compared to the almighty Conan Edogawa!

[tenshi8]

My follow-up question, then, is why doesn't Conan just tell them? Someone mentioned that Conan may have said something to Akai back when they were planning Rena's rescue, but we don't know that. Clearly Conan trusts Jodie & Akai; he acts fairly normal around them, and makes no pretense about being smarter than the average 7 year old. So why not just tell them?

And it's weird to think that two such smart people would not have been curious enough to pursue their suspicions.

[dilbertschalter]

My follow-up question, then, is why doesn't Conan just tell them? Someone mentioned that Conan may have said something to Akai back when they were planning Rena's rescue, but we don't know that. Clearly Conan trusts Jodie & Akai; he acts fairly normal around them, and makes no pretense about being smarter than the average 7 year old. So why not just tell them?

And it's weird to think that two such smart people would not have been curious enough to pursue their suspicions.

There are plenty of things in Conan that don't make sense. Shinichi's reason for not telling Ran about the BO was to protect her. Then, in 345, we have her a few inches away from being shot to death by a BO member. Still not telling. Then there's stuff like Haibara not disguising herself at all (she could at least get her hair dyed), despite the danger that presents to her.

[Tanner-kun]

Their's also the fact that Kogoro didn't question about Ai living with the professor and yet their watching Conan because Agasa asked them to.

[Nyarl]

My follow-up question, then, is why doesn't Conan just tell them? Someone mentioned that Conan may have said something to Akai back when they were planning Rena's rescue, but we don't know that. Clearly Conan trusts Jodie & Akai; he acts fairly normal around them, and makes no pretense about being smarter than the average 7 year old. So why not just tell them?

And it's weird to think that two such smart people would not have been curious enough to pursue their suspicions.

Even if the possibility they'd somehow leak info about him to the B.O. were negligible, he shouldn't tell them unless there's a good reason for it. (I can imagine Akai trading info with CIA about Shin'ichi and that somehow finding its way back to the Org., and I can certainly imagine Jodie blabbing over a compromised communication system, so I doubt the risk is closer to negligible than, say, small. Not as risky as letting Ran tell his schoolmates he's still alive, of course, but he can't think objectively when it comes to Ran.)

Their's also the fact that Kogoro didn't question about Ai living with the professor and yet their watching Conan because Agasa asked them to.

Kogoro very likely would rather not risk revealing that his fame isn't deserved by investigating Conan too closely. It's probably not mere arbitrary writing that had Kogoro openly suspicious of Conan just before he learned he was now celebrity level famous, then never bring up the subject again. Ran was already suspicious of Conan when she learned about Haibara, she probably did consider it evidence supporting her suspicion until the temp cure made it look impossible. (One of the bits of evidence that Ran was suspicious shown in volume 26 was the scene where Ran learned about Haibara.)

[Tanner-kun]

What I'm saying is he said he couldn't take care of Conan and yet a few weeks latter he takes in Ai.

[Abs.]

I explained this in IRC.  It's because everyone knows Agasa is a lolicon.