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No shinichi?

Postby Mead » March 17th, 2010, 12:17 am

Another random thought occurred to me, the only real magical element to DC is the shrinking poison which sets the plot. Then I started wondering, would Detective Conan be better or worse with without shinichi?

Conan is just a kid whom is ridiculously intelligent and since he's a kid, no one listens to him, so Professor Agasa helps him out, and instead of meeting Gin and Vodka at the park, he first encounters them during the Billion Yen Robbery, Akemi's death is more than enough reason to want to take down the Blacks. Which would also mean that Ai would just be a super smart kid too, there I start to find fault, since so much of Ai's character might be unbelievable if she was just a kid.

Minus the Ran Shipping, and Conan's embarrassment, about 70% of the show would be the same, and it's got me asking, Would the show be better or worse? Personally I wouldn't mind it since it'd make Conan's possible love life more interesting, but so many of RanxShin scenes I liked, and might miss.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby xGinx » March 17th, 2010, 12:26 am

I think the serie would lose a lot without Shinichi.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 12:30 am

No, it wouldn't be the same.  The plot would be completely different.  It would be just like Tantei Gakuen Q... just with younger kids.  It'd probably also be a lot more annoying

You also forgot that Agasa only made those gadgets for Conan because he had to act as a detective in order to get his body back.  So take away Shinichi and you also take away his toys.  There would be nothing left to Conan!  The series would be destroyed.  !
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby soratothamax » March 17th, 2010, 1:08 am

Sakina wrote:No, it wouldn't be the same.  The plot would be completely different.  It would be just like Tantei Gakuen Q... just with younger kids.  It'd probably also be a lot more annoying

You also forgot that Agasa only made those gadgets for Conan because he had to act as a detective in order to get his body back.  So take away Shinichi and you also take away his toys.  There would be nothing left to Conan!  The series would be destroyed.  !


Agreed. And the only reason Conan is that smart is because he really is supposed to be 17. At age 7....you have barely been in school. The interesting part is that he is FORCED to relive his childhood while still solving cases, and keep his alias a secret...
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 1:26 am

Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby bluekaitou1412 » March 17th, 2010, 1:50 am

Sakina wrote:Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.


No APTX :'(
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Beastly » March 17th, 2010, 1:51 am

bluekaitou1412 wrote:
Sakina wrote:Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.


No APTX :'(


No Detective Boys

Spoiler:
good riddance though
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 2:00 am

Beastly wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote:
Sakina wrote:Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.


No APTX :'(


No Detective Boys

Spoiler:
good riddance though


No Vermouth.  She would have been dead in New York if it weren't for Shinichi and Ran.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Beastly » March 17th, 2010, 2:02 am

Sakina wrote:
Beastly wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote:
Sakina wrote:Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.


No APTX :'(


No Detective Boys

Spoiler:
good riddance though


No Vermouth.  She would have been dead in New York if it weren't for Shinichi and Ran.


You're wrong. Shinichi and Ran saved Vermouth before Shinichi turned into Conan.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 2:09 am

Beastly wrote:
Sakina wrote:
Beastly wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote:
Sakina wrote:Can I also point out that there would be no Haibara.


No APTX :'(


No Detective Boys

Spoiler:
good riddance though


No Vermouth.  She would have been dead in New York if it weren't for Shinichi and Ran.


You're wrong. Shinichi and Ran saved Vermouth before Shinichi turned into Conan.

I thought this was a 'No Shinichi' thread... not a no Conan thread...

Unless you're implying that Shinichi just never shrunk and exists in the same world as Conan which would be the sort of paradox that Dr. Who teaches us is bad.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Conia » March 17th, 2010, 12:43 pm

No ShinRan? buuuuuuuuhhh
DC would be the worst manga/anime, just below Naruto ;D
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Mead » March 17th, 2010, 2:35 pm

I more or so meant what if the manga started out based around Conan, and no shrinking stuff, which would of course mean things would be explained different but overall end the same way. So you can't really say "X leads to Y so it can't happen" since the permise of the question is what if the story had taken a different direction.

I mean I agree that if Conan was just a smaret kid it'd be like a whole layer of the series was just gone, but the main core of crime solving would remain the same, and many epiosdes wouldn't even change.

I'm not saying at all it'd be better without Shinichi, in fact I wish we had more flashback cases with him, but it was a thought xD
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 2:49 pm

Mead wrote:I more or so meant what if the manga started out based around Conan, and no shrinking stuff, which would of course mean things would be explained different but overall end the same way. So you can't really say "X leads to Y so it can't happen" since the permise of the question is what if the story had taken a different direction.

I mean I agree that if Conan was just a smaret kid it'd be like a whole layer of the series was just gone, but the main core of crime solving would remain the same, and many epiosdes wouldn't even change.

I'm not saying at all it'd be better without Shinichi, in fact I wish we had more flashback cases with him, but it was a thought xD

A thought that should never be mentioned again for the sake of us all.  -_-  The thought of DC without Shinichi makes us all cringe in fear and horror.
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby mangaluva » March 17th, 2010, 3:46 pm

Basically, without Shinichi there'd be no DC... Gosho would just have continued MK. Hang on, that doesn't sound bad...
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Re: No shinichi?

Postby Sakina » March 17th, 2010, 5:32 pm

mangaluva wrote:Basically, without Shinichi there'd be no DC... Gosho would just have continued MK. Hang on, that doesn't sound bad...

Actually he probably would have just started another series. Then there would be no DC or a continuation of MK.
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