ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Post any Detective Conan news, events, questions, and the like about the anime, manga, movies, or OVAs that don't belong elsewhere here.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby mangaluva » January 10th, 2010, 11:32 am

Kor wrote:
Ocelot wrote:
Kor wrote:
Ocelot wrote:that is really strange. i can play most detective conan videos on my ps3 just fine. some old files use very outdated video codecs, but that is okay. there is one thing that bothers me now though; the newest dctp releases use a different codec and i can't play them on my ps3 anymore. why?  ???


it's because what you said is off-topic and has no connection to whatever is being discussed here.  :P

it is on-topic because someone mentioned it here. your post is now off-topic and basically useless. now we have two useless posts.  :-*


but...but...maybe that guy's post was also off-topic then?  :o
Just because someone was off-topic, no need to continue the chain...like we are doing now  ;)


I'm presuming that the PS3 doesn't play certain codecs to avoid illegal downloading. Or something.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby tantei okuoku » January 10th, 2010, 11:35 am

mangaluva wrote:
Kor wrote:
Ocelot wrote:
Kor wrote:
Ocelot wrote:that is really strange. i can play most detective conan videos on my ps3 just fine. some old files use very outdated video codecs, but that is okay. there is one thing that bothers me now though; the newest dctp releases use a different codec and i can't play them on my ps3 anymore. why?  ???


it's because what you said is off-topic and has no connection to whatever is being discussed here.  :P

it is on-topic because someone mentioned it here. your post is now off-topic and basically useless. now we have two useless posts.  :-*


but...but...maybe that guy's post was also off-topic then?  :o
Just because someone was off-topic, no need to continue the chain...like we are doing now  ;)


I'm presuming that the PS3 doesn't play certain codecs to avoid illegal downloading. Or something.

like I said I have problems with it for me, not surprised you guys do to, another reason I love dvds
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby milaneechan » January 10th, 2010, 12:01 pm

Kor wrote:

milaneechan wrote:oh, and the red color and the big bold letters was to make it stand out, not to make people feel stupid. I just didn't want it to be skipped over. :)


But...if I see red too much, the white background starts to look green  :D (bad and pointless red wall refrence)
I don't like when people try to make things stand out. It shows that they think that they might be ignored. People are reading this thread so no need to worry (from experience, standing out is not always good  :'()

I liked the reference XD

Perhaps there is a hidden message in the green! (...if only I were that clever xO)

It's true, I did think I might be ignored. I am a new member, and it's true facts that new members are often ignored, and I think everyone can attest to that. *nodnod*
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby Kor » January 10th, 2010, 12:09 pm

tantei okuoku wrote:
Kor wrote:
milaneechan wrote:Seems like some kids need this message in their lives:

It seems like a lot of you aren't aware that the "Case Closed" disks ALL come with ORIGINAL JAPANESE AUDIO and english subtitles. That's right! Buying the Case Closed disks doesn't mean you have to watch the dub! You can own and watch the original "Detective Conan" Audio on your own TV with out spending thousands of dollars importing the disks or illegally burning discs from your internet. You get 26 episodes per disc set, for only 20-30 dollars! That's much cheaper than importing the 4 episode 40 dallar discs from Japan! SO PLEASE! Buy the Case Closed discs! The more people that buy it, the more chance there is that they will start bringing the rest of the episodes over! and if you are a true Conan fan, you want to support and own the whole series! 

It perplexes my brain how many people out there are unaware that discs come with japanese audio and subtitles. >.>


wow....now this is pretty insulting towards....everyone maybe. You really do need to be stupid to not know that, especially since it was mentioned only oh so many times in this thread. You however, with all due respect to your red and big letters (seriously, tantei's use of caps is somehow fine, but there was no point in that) need to read what has been said so far instead of pressuming that no one knows what you just said.

What some have said, is that they think the subs made by funanimation aren't good and don't deserve to be bought. Why do some people want funanimation to continue the hideious parade I must ask.

Also, some members who talked here about getting the episodes from Japan ARE NOT FROM REGION 1. Meaning you've just been reading the last posts of this thread because we also talked about THAT. So next time you make such a post which hurts the mind and logic of almost everyone, read what was said until now in this thread.

edit: it's funny that everyone here has a different interpetation to what a "true conan fan" is. How about just stopping use this term then? If you think people should buy funanimation's stuff (I am quoting you on what you said since you weren't even slightly specific) then I ask you to buy the DVDs of Conan made in germany, philipins and oh where not. After all, a true Conan fan should support the whole series. Or you just referred to funanimation's stuff? So funanimation is what makes the series "whole"? I lived perfectly fine without it.
So by your interpetation, I'm not a true fan, since I won't buy funanimation's releases, but then again I can't even buy it to begin with.

THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING WITH US, JUST TO BE TROLLS, I SAID AT THE BEGINNING THIS IS TO R1 FANS, NOT TO R3 OR R2 FANS OF THE SHOW, IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN R1 TERRITORY, THEN WHY THE BEEP DO YOU CARE ABOUT THIS


Some people love to argue  :-* but you give it a bad taste with overly use of caps which are insignificant and I assume you are shouting at me.
Milaneechan's post was very not specific towards its audience. You say that I can't argue just because I'm not for R1? isn't that a bit like being a racist? "You're not allowed in here because you aren't part of us, you are an outsider!" (not to mention you had once a slightly racist post). Okay then, I shall not step in your territory again, forgive me for intruding.

tantei okuoku wrote:and go off stereotypes of them


I still have no clue what you mean by "stereotypes" if I did anything like that, I had no such intention.

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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby tantei okuoku » January 10th, 2010, 12:15 pm

So you are arguing about DVDs you know next  to nothing about just because you want to argue.
if anyone who KNOWS about the subs on the case closed DVDs and can point out a real problem with them.  (the sub color is not yellow btw, that is just a sterotype).  if you don't know anything and don't have anything to bring to the table then please don't say anything. (if you don't have anything nice/truthful to say then don't say anything please)
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Postby DarkWolfYoukai » January 10th, 2010, 1:06 pm

Having watched the subs from seasons 1 and 2, I can say that I prefer the size and font of the fansubs.  There are also times when Funi translated straight to the name when one person calls someone onee-chan or something like that instead of just translating it as sister.  I can't remember at the moment how the subs translate "Ran-neechan" (as just Ran or something else) and I've only taken one semester of Japanese, so I can't argue for accuracy.  However, having a DVD makes me more likely to watch the show because it doesn't take up space on my computer and I don't need to internet to watch it.  Also, DC is the only anime I've been downloading fansubbed at the moment (the rest are legal streams), so I might as well buy it.  It's all a matter of preference, and I really would like Funi to be able to continue.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby Kor » January 10th, 2010, 1:19 pm

tantei okuoku wrote:So you are arguing about DVDs you know next  to nothing about just because you want to argue.
if anyone who KNOWS about the subs on the case closed DVDs and can point out a real problem with them.  (the sub color is not yellow btw, that is just a sterotype).  if you don't know anything and don't have anything to bring to the table then please don't say anything. (if you don't have anything nice/truthful to say then don't say anything please)

tantei okuoku wrote:I know many fans do buy the sets but you get some people like parkur and kor who think that fan subs are the greatest to happen to anime and them along with it, well newsflash you two they are not and neither are you

tantei okuoku wrote:THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING WITH US, JUST TO BE TROLLS, I SAID AT THE BEGINNING THIS IS TO R1 FANS, NOT TO R3 OR R2 FANS OF THE SHOW, IF YOU DO NOT LIVE IN R1 TERRITORY, THEN WHY THE BEEP DO YOU CARE ABOUT CASE CLOSED DVDs


like you're the one to talk. Or by nice you mean something nice about the DVDs? If you only want to hear nice things then what's the point? anything bad that people have said in this thread you dismiss or ignore for some reason. You can't provide/advertise a product and expect only good reaction, that's not how it works.

Just when I started to be nicer. When I said "some people just love to argue" I was being sarcastic (you know, that thing Slider is doing all the time...)
Many people already told you what they think about funanimation's subtitles in another thread you made. I think you're just choosing to ignore what they say all the time. I never said they are yellow (you weren't specific so I don't know if you referred that to me)

tantei okuoku wrote:if you don't know anything


sorry, but I know a lot of things. I've seen how Israel succeeded to make anime a huge hit here (once they brought pokemon, DBZ...). I know how they got to it and I can tell funanimation is not going in the same way, then again the american companies try to provide the shows to a much bigger nation than Israel so the same tactics might not work - or maybe that's the whole problem? Anime is not that popular in the US and maybe most of the companies just don't know how to handle a good anime. I tell you what I know from what I read: Funanimation had a very good anime in their hands and couldn't handle it correctly, and as I said for ten times until now: Now you see the result. I don't think some DVD sales will change this fact.
It seems to me just that you won't listen to what I say because I'm not in your R1, therefore you dismiss my opinions. So don't worry, 2 years from now I will move to the US (yay for college exchanging students system) then will you have a fair arguement with me instead of just shouting "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, YOU DON'T BELONG, GET OUT OF MY TERRITORY!"?

tantei okuoku wrote:(if you don't have anything nice/truthful to say then don't say anything please)


The world isn't only white - there has to be some black whether you like it or not.

I think it's just a very soft spot for you (the whole funanimation thing) why else would you be so heated up about what people say? funanimation/DC/anime are not the most important thing in life. If you find it appropriate to be so angry over something that someone says about DVDs of a cartoon, well...that's your choice...

Anyway, you can post whatever you want as a reply. I fear that if we continue this arguement (in which I argue and you just shout at me and tell me to not say anything in here and go away), this thread might get locked. So out of respect for you (not that you have given me anything like that) I'm gonna back away now...

edit: just forgot to say. The title is very misleading since you don't think any of non-R1 should post in this thread, so it should be changed to "Attention Detective Conan fans from the USA and Canada" if you had done that from the start, I wouldn't have posted here in the first place. Directing ALL the fans in the title and then directing (and welcoming) only the fans from R1 makes you look bad because then you are banishing away those non-R1 fans from the thread, even though the title directed it to EVERYONE.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby mangaluva » January 10th, 2010, 1:29 pm

Oh for pity's sake will people stop arguing already? The issue at hand is the threat of the end of DC anime being published in english. If you want to buy it, if you can afford to, please do so. If not, don't. That's all there is to it.
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Postby miakakiri » January 10th, 2010, 1:30 pm

*sigh* If I had the money, I probably would buy them. Unfortunately, I lost my job on Thursday, so we don't have the money to spare for season-sets. I was going to get them sometime this month or next as business picked up and I actually had some spare cash...but now I can't. I have to save what tips I have left for picking up movies 5 and 6, which I already pre-ordered, and in case of emergencies. Once I get things fixed again and have the money to spare (I really mean it that I can't afford $20 for a dvd set) then I will pick up the season sets as I can.
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Postby kkslider5552000 » January 10th, 2010, 2:05 pm

there is no quicker way to lose credibility than to use the term "true fans"

also, I'm supporting FMA and One Piece because they are the most popular series I like that still has new episodes because I want anime in general to succeed. Supporting the most popular series with the best dubs so that their popularity can continue to grow until it is actually relevent like Naruto was before CN gave it the middle finger for no reason.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby ranger » January 10th, 2010, 3:40 pm

Ctu wrote:
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ranger wrote:While I do think the dub can be rather annoying at points, the reason to buy these dvds by Funi is because they are probably the highest quality Americans will find of the first seasons of Detective Conan;


Import DVDs. That way you are supporting the actual animators and writers of the show rather than the people who bought a license to mess the show up. IMO this is what a "true fan" would do, and is an option for fans all over the world, rather than just people in the R1 area.

So, even though they are expensive, you should buy the Japanese DVDs to support the true creators, then watch the fansubs so you can understand the show. :)




I agree with that 100% I would rather give my money to the people who came out with the idea...not the ones who saw it fix to rip it apart with a bad dub...although not sure if I would buy the jap dvd if it did not have a eng subtitle option


Sorry, I guess I'm not a true fan if I don't dish out 100+ dollars on DC dvds :(
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS from the US and Canad

Postby tantei okuoku » January 10th, 2010, 4:16 pm

there is a difference between wanting to buy the dvds but not having the money, and having more then enough money but just not wanting to because of some technicality. I do not have enough money for the one piece season sets, but I do watch the streams that funimations puts out for it, and I really hope they can get one piece back on tv with a decent rating. I support disney XD now since CN are acting like idiots and disney XD treats naruto with respect. I hope they get one piece and Sargent frog. 

@kor I was trying to make joke out of the golden rule, "I was being sarcastic (you know, that thing Slider is doing all the time...)" I get upset because if everyone who buys the movies, bought the season sets then there would be no problem. and yes I have a problem with people who act like they have watched the dvds and have actually seen the subs when they have not and they just base it on there worst fears.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby Davit08 » January 10th, 2010, 4:23 pm

oh no! i got to go buy them, i really want them, better go get em
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby mangaluva » January 10th, 2010, 4:24 pm

I kinda dislike the phrase "true fan". It's just used for pressure and frankly sounds a bit fanatical. Buy the DVDs if you can and want to- or don't. This thread was just supposed to draw attention to the fact that the DC anime is in danger, not force you to buy anything. Chill the f@ck out.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL DETECTIVE CONAN FANS

Postby Jd- » January 10th, 2010, 4:31 pm

mangaluva wrote:I kinda dislike the phrase "true fan". It's just used for pressure and frankly sounds a bit fanatical. Buy the DVDs if you can and want to- or don't. This thread was just supposed to draw attention to the fact that the DC anime is in danger, not force you to buy anything. Chill the f@ck out.


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