Best/worst of the movies?

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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby NotSoFluent » December 28th, 2009, 10:36 pm

The Best:
Movie 3: I really need to watch this one again, but this was a great Kid-related case.  I sort of liked the cheesy ending too. :-[

Movie 4:  It was very cute.  The romance was as schmaltzy as hell, but I really enjoyed this movie.  I liked the police-related plot as well; I felt that group  characters weren't used all that much until then.  

Movie 5: Excellent.  The tone, mystery, and the overall execution made it hard to stop watching.  


The In-Between:

Movie 1: Average.  It was neither bad nor great, but it was enjoyable.  I felt that the motive and culprit were too obvious.

Movie 2: Not bad and the premise was neat (as were the name/number puns), but I felt like the whole plot fell apart at the end.

Movie 6: Mixed feelings. Pretty fun watch with a neat integration of Sherlock and good ideas, but I felt the use of Jack the Ripper was ham-handed and the use of virtual reality seemed ridiculous.  I know that the real Ripper murders aren't light enough for a British cozy detective like Holmes and far too graphic for children, but he seemed to be added into the plot for the sake of being a well-known figure that would be involved with the main villain somehow (and even Ripper's connection to the villain was grasping at straws).  

Movie 7: Gave Heiji more spotlight, which was a big plus.  I didn't care too much for the plot or mystery though.  I tried, but I really couldn't.  


The Worst:


Movie 8:  Wanted to like it.  Really did.  But it was a serious sleeper; I nearly didn't finish watching this movie because I was so bored with it.

Movie 10: Shit.  Shitshitshitshitshit.   The Hype Machine Marketing that was set up as the great 10th anniversary production was the only thing this movie was riding on.  Seriously.  Combine that with trying to jam almost every single character into the plot and set out loose threads that lead to disappointing conclusions or go nowhere in particular.

Movie 11:
As bad as the 10th in my opinion.  The idea of a pirate/history-based plot is alright, but this would have been better suited as an OVA or two-parter in the series.  The extent to which this mystery was stretched out was really ridiculous.  The villains only served to be ridiculous knuckle-dragging thugs after fortune and hold the token girls hostage.

I haven't seen Movies 12 or 13 yet, so I can't exactly say what I think about those.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby kirite » December 29th, 2009, 2:30 pm

NotSoFluent wrote:Movie 10: Shit.  Shitshitshitshitshit.   The Hype Machine Marketing that was set up as the great 10th anniversary production was the only thing this movie was riding on.  Seriously.  Combine that with trying to jam almost every single character into the plot and set out loose threads that lead to disappointing conclusions or go nowhere in particular.

Movie 11:
As bad as the 10th in my opinion.  The idea of a pirate/history-based plot is alright, but this would have been better suited as an OVA or two-parter in the series.  The extent to which this mystery was stretched out was really ridiculous.  The villains only served to be ridiculous knuckle-dragging thugs after fortune and hold the token girls hostage.

I haven't seen Movies 12 or 13 yet, so I can't exactly say what I think about those.


I still can't watch Movie 10 again xD.  It's wierd, aside from M3, they're really screwing up KID movie plots D:.

Omg and you should watch M13, it's hillarious.  If you thought the M10 hype was horrible, wait until you see this one. 
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby NotSoFluent » December 29th, 2009, 4:16 pm

kirite wrote:I still can't watch Movie 10 again xD.  It's wierd, aside from M3, they're really screwing up KID movie plots D:.

Omg and you should watch M13, it's hillarious.  If you thought the M10 hype was horrible, wait until you see this one. 

lol yeah.  He appears to be a difficult character for the movie writers to handle by themselves.  Then again, they're pretty bad with characterization with Ran at times, too.

For Movie 13, I've heard mixed things, though I heard about a silly helicopter scene.  Like...seriously?  Doesn't the Org. make a point to remain discreet and not up in the open air? 
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » December 29th, 2009, 4:29 pm

NotSoFluent wrote:
kirite wrote:I still can't watch Movie 10 again xD.  It's wierd, aside from M3, they're really screwing up KID movie plots D:.

Omg and you should watch M13, it's hillarious.  If you thought the M10 hype was horrible, wait until you see this one.  

lol yeah.  He appears to be a difficult character for the movie writers to handle by themselves.  Then again, they're pretty bad with characterization with Ran at times, too.

For Movie 13, I've heard mixed things, though I heard about a silly helicopter scene.  Like...seriously?  Doesn't the Org. make a point to remain discreet and not up in the open air?  


If you can get over the OOC org methods, I found it pretty good otherwise. They did an excellent job with keeping to the true characterization in my opinion. Watch it and decide yourself, why listen to what other people say when you can do that?
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby kirite » December 29th, 2009, 10:35 pm

NotSoFluent wrote:lol yeah.  He appears to be a difficult character for the movie writers to handle by themselves.  Then again, they're pretty bad with characterization with Ran at times, too.

For Movie 13, I've heard mixed things, though I heard about a silly helicopter scene.  Like...seriously?  Doesn't the Org. make a point to remain discreet and not up in the open air? 


Arg, Ran's characterisation is horrible.  The way they use her in the plot is pretty clumsy.  Her character changes into anything depending on what needs to happen. Overdone damsel in distress role makes me cringe.

I won't spoil anything for you about M13, we shall talk about if you ever watch it xDD.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby ssjup81 » December 30th, 2009, 3:25 am

I don't know why people felt that Ran was a damsel in distress for movie 13.  I just can't see her being a DiD for that movie.  Nothing about it came across that way to me.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » December 30th, 2009, 5:21 am

kirite wrote:Arg, Ran's characterisation is horrible.  The way they use her in the plot is pretty clumsy.  Her character changes into anything depending on what needs to happen. Overdone damsel in distress role makes me cringe.

I won't spoil anything for you about M13, we shall talk about if you ever watch it xDD.


I thought that Ran was pretty on target in #13. She isn't normally the damsel in distress and when it comes to protecting Conan she tends not to hold back. She didn't seem OOC at all. I'd like to know what you thought was off about her. If anything, a few of the other movies messed her up *cough -Movie 11- cough*.
Also I'm going to disagree with your view that she was used clumsily. The only time she really mattered was at the end and she did exactly what I thought she would do, go protect Conan. She did a good job of it too, only Irish just was better. The fight scene between them didn't make Ran look weak at all.

I know people like to complain about the helicopter scene, but frankly it was totally sweet. Conan's counterattack was pure, refined awesome. If it were less so, I would have complained more, but I am willing to put up with a little AO OOC because it was amazing enough. Also, why are people complaining so much about the helicopter scene when in another movie we had a sentient AI coded by an angry dispossessed child genius threatening to erase children's brains if they don't beat him in a game?
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby kirhidemi » December 30th, 2009, 6:02 am

captured in her eyes is the best movie
jolly roger in the deep azure is the worst for me..
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby scineram » December 30th, 2009, 7:42 am

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:when in another movie we had a sentient AI coded by an angry dispossessed child genius threatening to erase children's brains if they don't beat him in a game.

Cause that was the worst film.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby kirite » December 30th, 2009, 10:46 am

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
kirite wrote:Arg, Ran's characterisation is horrible.  The way they use her in the plot is pretty clumsy.  Her character changes into anything depending on what needs to happen. Overdone damsel in distress role makes me cringe.

I won't spoil anything for you about M13, we shall talk about if you ever watch it xDD.


I thought that Ran was pretty on target in #13. She isn't normally the damsel in distress and when it comes to protecting Conan she tends not to hold back.


About Ran I wasn't talking about M13.  I was talking about all the movies in general. 
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » December 30th, 2009, 1:59 pm

One thing about the later movies that saddens me is that they haven't had the "I learned it in Hawaii" running gag. I hope they restart that.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby kkslider5552000 » December 30th, 2009, 2:16 pm

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:One thing about the later movies that saddens me is that they haven't had the "I learned it in Hawaii" running gag. I hope they restart that.

yeah that was great

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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Conia » December 30th, 2009, 2:47 pm

kkslider5552000 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:One thing about the later movies that saddens me is that they haven't had the "I learned it in Hawaii" running gag. I hope they restart that.

yeah that was great

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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Fronzel » December 31st, 2009, 2:22 am

scineram wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:when in another movie we had a sentient AI coded by an angry dispossessed child genius threatening to erase children's brains if they don't beat him in a game.

Cause that was the worst film.

Quoted for truth. Don't know why there's so much affection for that shallow action picture with Conan tacked onto it around here.
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Re: Best/worst of the movies?

Postby Brekclub85 » July 10th, 2011, 6:35 pm

After seeing Movie 14, I liked it, but I place it in my "not my absolute favorites" category.

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