Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

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Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby Namako » June 22nd, 2019, 1:59 pm

Like a lot of artists, Gosho Aoyama bases his settings on real world models - sometimes more, sometimes less - and even the locations his series play in can be vaguely pinpointed. I think stuff like this is highly interesting and I just hope that some of you do, too. I researched and wrote this for another message board originally, but it went offline around a year ago and didn't return - and now that the domain seems to be for sale, I don't expect it to ever come back. So I put this stuff in here. :D What you'll do with this information in the end is up to you - maybe you can use this knowledge for a fan fiction or go on one of those Manga/Anime pilgrimages when you are in Japan.

Every series will be partitioned by medium (yes, the position of the same building or place in a franchise differs from medium to medium sometimes) and per section, I will first show comparions between the real world model and Gosho's interpretation and afterwards I will present a rough estimation of where his stories are set (based on hints to their relative location in-universe - and yes, this also isn't always the same place as where the model it was based on happens to be in real life).

By the way, despite its length it's far from complete - a lot of stuff is missing, because I'm still looking for it or just didn't add it yet - so consider this topic a work in progress. Here we go!

(A click on the respective images will open a larger version.)


Detective Conan

Manga

Models
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Identification pending
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  • The house of the Kudos (Image) - probably using the same model as Akako's home (Image, also see the Omake in volume 5) and the house Detective George investigates during his cameo in FILE.102 (Image)
  • Agasa's house
  • The apartment building Yoko Okino lives in
  • Enjyo City Hotel
  • The first precinct Megure works at (Beika Police Department) (Image 1) (Image 2) before transfering to the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department
  • Beika General Hospital
  • Beika Art Museum
  • Hotel New Beika
  • Princess Izu Hotel (FILE.72 - 77 / Volume 8, chapter 2 - 7)
  • Sunset Manor
  • The café Shūkichi and Yumi met in (Image) (FILE.899 / Volume 85, chapter 6)
  • The house of appraiser Hogen Nishitsu (Image 1) (Image 2) (FILE.1035+ / Volume 97, chapter 10+)
  • ...



Where is it set?
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First of all: Beika of course isn't real. :p But Gosho once said it's a combination of real and fictional parts mixed up and the Manga indeed is ripe with little hints to where it would approximately be if it would exist. The town of Beika and its neighbouring districts like Haido, Toriya, Buraku and Sutan are set in a fictionalized ward of Tokyo (米花区, Beika-ku) which is roughly located on/in a real-life area consisting of a good chunk of northern Minato (maybe a third or even half of it), as well as small parts of Chiyoda, Shibuya and Shinagawa (and maybe a little of the south of Shinjuku) bordering on it - or on a made-up piece of land between all of those. This position of Beika is pretty consistent throughout the Manga and suggested by the following evidence.

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Professor Agasa's full address is revealed to be "東京都米花区米花町2丁目22番地" (Tōkyō-to Beika-ku Beika-chō 2-chōme 22-banchi) in FILE.843, proving that Beika is a district in a fictional ward of the same name in Tokyo.


In FILE.14 (volume 2, chapter 5), Conan is on the way back from the Beika Police Department to the Mōri Detective Agency together with Kogoro and Ran, during which he, with the help of his new glasses gadget, geolocates the tall man "4 kilometers to the northwest... in Shinjuku", which would encompass exactly the area tinted and framed in blue on the following map for Conan (and the part of Beika seen here) to potentially be in - consisting of a good chunk of the upper half of Minato, the lower half of Chiyoda and a remote southeast corner of Shinjuku itself.

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Conan came from somewhere in the area tinted and framed in blue.

The Detective Boys take a bus on the (back then) real To06 line (都06) of Toei Bus in FILE.37 (volume 4, chapter 10) to get from Beika (or, rather, a bus stop close to Beika Park, it seems) to Tokyo Tower. The line indeed lead from Shibuya Station through Minato, passed the Tower and had its final destination at Shimbashi Station. The complete route can be seen as a green line on the following map.

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The green line, symbolizing the To06 bus route, would lead through Beika.

Conan meets Kaitō Kid for the first time in FILE.156 on the roof of the Haido City Hotel. The view from it over a portion of Minato, including Tokyo Tower and the Shiroyama Trust Tower to the left of it, firmly places the fictional building in the position of the real ANA Intercontinental Tokyo Hotel, even though the buildings look differently.

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Kid and Conan with the panorama of Minato behind them - including the Shiroyama Trust and Tokyo Tower.

Shortly before that, Conan takes a look around, to the right of Tokyo Tower, and watches a bunch of searchlights scouring the sky, commenting that this is where Beika Museum should be - which would place it approximately where the Azabu districts (including Roppongi) are in real life.

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Conan watching the searchlights over Beika Museum - which would be somewhere around Azabu.

In FILE.267 - 269, a serial arsonist sets fire to several places in Tokyo, the last of which is in Yotsuya, a district in Shinjuku, where Ayumi saw the arsonist after he started the fire. Shortly after being interrogated by Inspector Satō at the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department about the person in question, she wants to drive to Yotsuya together with the Detective Boys, saying that she wants to take a stop anyway, since it's "the same way" - which is revealed to be the 4th block of Haido, where her father happened to die 18 years ago, firmly placing this block of the fictitious district somewhere between the real districts of Kasumigaseki (Chiyoda) and the aforementioned Yotsuya - in an area on the southwest border of Chiyoda it shares with Minato.

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On the route between the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department and Yotsuya, Inspector Shiratori tells Megure that Takagi, Satō and himself are at the 4th block of Haido.

During this call, Megure tells them that he and some other policemen from the Shinagawa Police Department are chasing a suspect who escaped during an interrogation in the 6th block of (probably Kita-)Shinagawa, who should be "close" to them. Takagi and Shiratori start driving and are able to catch the criminal at Shinagawa Station, which, despite its name, is in the south of Minato, implying Haido (and Beika, by extension) to roughly be in the real life location of this ward (again), along the border between it and Shibuya, reaching down to where both wards meet the borders of Shinagawa. This also fits Mitsuhiko's thoughts and the relations on Ai's map of the scenes of the fires shown in-story, corresponding with real life maps.

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The maps for solving the case correspond with real life maps, consolidating the hints about Haido (and Beika) in relation to Yotsuya and Shinagawa from the same chapters.

In FILE.876 - 878, Masumi Sera invites her friends Ran Mōri, Sonoko Suzuki and Conan Edogawa to the 50-floor-hotel she's currently living in after school. Ran's view from the window straight to the distinctive skyscrapers of Shibuya, as well as Yoyogi Park and Nishi-Shinjuku in the background by distance, perspective, as well as height and nature of the building as a luxurious skyscraper hotel/apartment complex suggests it to be on the spot where Daikanyama Address Tower is standing in real life (17-1 Daikanyama-chō, Shibuya-ku) - the only skyscraper of this kind in the vicinity from which such a panorama could be seen.

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Ran's view from the 30th floor of Masumi's hotel and a view from the roof of Daikanyama Address Tower with Google Maps.

But - like with Haido City Hotel before - while the position is clear, the model for the exterior of the hotel is different. Daikanyama Address is said to be popular as a filming location for drama serials in Japan. Tellingly, besides a student from a Beika high school settling there, Hiura Keigo, who's also living in the hotel, orders food from "Beika Sushi", implying for the building to be in - or very close to - the fictional district or ward.

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A visualization of Rans view projected on a real life map and the position of Masumi's hotel, coinciding with the Daikanyama Address Tower.

As could be seen before, Tokyo Tower (called Tōto Tower in Detective Conan, but meant to be one and the same building, according to Gosho ("[...] Tohto tower is Tokyo tower. It’s like a mix of fiction and reality." - translation by Yunnie)) is in the direct vicinity of Beika and Haido in Conan's world, as could be seen before (see, for example, FILE.36 and 37 (Volume 4, Chapter 7 - 8), FILE.156 and 157 (Volume 16, Chapter 6 - 7)), which happens to be in the Shiba Park of the oft-mentioned ward Minato.

In FILE.985 and 986 (Volume 93, Chapter 4 - 5) this closeness to the Tower ist specified by establishing the existence of a church in the neighbourhood of Mōri Detective Agency, the bells of which could still be heard by Eri Kisaki in her hiding spot 1 kilometer (~0.6 miles) away. Conan, Kogoro and Ran go to the Zōjō-ji, a temple right next to the Tower, at which Conan shoots his soccer ball against the bell of Shorodo (the small pavilion in front of the temple) and whose sound Eri can still hear in the distance of 340 meters (~0.2 miles). Based on the intersection points of two imaginary circles around church and Shorodo with respective radii of 1 kilometer and 340 meters, the trio can narrow down the place Eri is kept at to two districts.

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Mōri Detective Agency is roughly 1 kilometer away from Eri's hiding place, which, in turn, is 340 meters away from the Shorodo of Tokyo Tower. The detective agency - and the 5th block of Beika-chō - would thus be somewhere inside a radius of 1.34 kilometres around the Shorodo.

The gain of knowledge from this is that the church and, by extension, Mōri Detective Agency have to be inside a well-spaced radius of 1.34 kilometers (~0.83 miles) around the Shorodo (see the orange circle on the map). If one takes the schematic depiction of the relations of Tokyo Tower, Tokyo Sky Tree, Zōjō-ji, church and detective agency from the minds of the characters exactly, church and detective agency (and as such, parts of Beika) would be vaguely locatable to the west, the south or the southwest - in real life mainly encompassing parts of Azabu, Mita, Shiba and Shiba Park itself. No matter what, it fits the previous and following evidence.

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A circle with a radius of 1.34 kilometers drawn around Shorodo on a real life map.

The rail line seen in FILE.998 (Volume 94, chapter 6), which is also called by its name, is the real Shōnan-Shinjuku Line (also a part of Yamanote Line). According to the chapter, Beika Station is on the Shōnan-Shinjuku Line between Shinjuku and Yokohama Station. In reality, the stations Shibuya, Ebisu, Meguro (no stop), Gotanda (no stop), Ōsaki, Nishi-Ōi, Musashi-Kosugi and Shin-Kawasaki can be found here. If we take away the last two train stations mentioned (the Tokyo segment of the line ends with Nishi-Ōi in the Shinagawa ward) Beika Station should be somewhere on the rail segment marked with pink on the maps.

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Conan thinking about Shōnan-Shinjuku Line between Takasaki and Odawara Stations and the real life equivalent.

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Conan thinking about Shōnan-Shinjuku Line between Shinjuku and Ōfuna Stations and the real life equivalent, as well as a map with the Tokyo segment of the line.

Interestingly, like mentioned in the "Models" section before, the part of the line the Detective Boys pass before stopping at Beika Station is a real segment directly before trains enter Gotanda Station. This could mean that Beika Station is in place of Gotanda Station (ironically one of the stations not serving the line, even though it leads through it) or in a fictional piece of ground right before it, which would absolutely fit with the place Beika is marked on in Conan's thoughts about the line.

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A real train entering Gotanda Station, the train of the Detective Boys entering Beika Station - and the real place marked on a map.

If we put all of the previous information together on one map and try to find rough borders which satisfy them, we get...

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This looks like chaos, right? The "dent" on the left of "Beika" happened by drawing around Ebisu Bridge and Station, which are confirmed to be their separate thing in Detective Conan - but implied to be very close to Beika.

So much for my current progress on the theory about "Where would Beika be if it would be real". XD


Where are certain protagonist's homes in specific?

I'm afraid Gosho will probably never directly answer stuff like the locations of the protagonist's homes himself. But, the next best thing would be the map of Beika from the Digest Books - I once turned it to the left by 90 degrees and compared it with a real map of the north-western Tokyo Bay (i.e., the rough place deduced from the Manga hints):

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The scan of the Beika map is from a chinese version of the Digest Book from http://aptx4869.126.com/ - but it seems to be offline by now.

Even though one has to keep in mind that the Beika map is highly abstract, it's noticeable how much the two maps resemble each other - Tokyo Tower is Tōto Tower (in red) anyway, as we know; the rail lines (pink) are similar, the river at the bottom (which is probably supposed to be the Teimuzu on the Beika map) reminds of the course of Meguro River (light blue) and "Beika Wharf" seems to be a stand-in for Harumi Wharf (blue). So, if we would take the map at face value (which I wouldn't, to be honest, as I will explain farther below) and try to reconcile the abstraction and contortion between both maps, the 2nd block of Beika (the dark green square, including the Kudo's home and Agasa's house) would be very roughly around the border area of Minato and Shinagawa - maybe close to Sengakuji or Shinagawa Station.

But now about the counter-arguments: Besides this map very probably being non-canon and despite of it coming from one of the Digest Books, it's highly likely that it wasn't drawn by Gosho himself (who denied ever drawing a map of Beika) and it contradicts the Manga hints in some regards. The artist in charge of this page probably took the same hints I did for Beika's approximate position (or just the fact that it's somewhat close to or including Tokyo Tower) and drew this map as a fictionalized version of East Tokyo Bay of their own accord, more or less randomly filling it with places from Detective Conan that came to their mind. Alas, like I've said, it's the next best thing we've got right now. :D Perhaps Gosho will clarify stuff like this once Detective Conan is over one day, even though I doubt it.



Anime

Also see @conan_location on Twitter, they have a lot of good research and theories about the real places from the Anime including the movies!

Models (Episodes)
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Models (Movies)
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Kudō Shin'ichi e no Chōsen-jō (Drama)

Filming locations
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  • The building used as the Mōri Detective Agency is located at 3-chōme−2−4 of Uchi-Kanda district in the Chiyoda Ward of Tokyo. Coincidentally, it seemed to be the home of a law office in real life once (and a tax consulting firm nowadays) and, like its Manga counterpart, is relatively close to Tokyo Tower.

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    Photo source: Google Maps (uploaded by Tokyo Tax Consulting)



Hannin no Hanzawa-san

Models
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Magic Kaito

Manga

Models
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  • "Ekoda High School" - in this incarnation - is very probably based on the main building (#3) on the Ekoda campus of Musashi University, right next to the Ekoda campus (fine arts) of Nihon University, where Gosho Aoyama and Yutaka Abe (a past mentor and current assistant of his) studied and lived - also not far away from Ekoda Station. Interestingly enough, building #3 was a high school once and what is the Ekoda campus of Nihon today once housed another high school associated with the university, called Ekoda High School (also shortened as 江古田高校 (Ekoda kōkō), like the school in the Manga), which closed in 1976 and is also used as a university building today. All of the mentioned campuses and buildings are located in the adjacent neighbourhoods of Asahigaoka and Toyotamakami in Nerima. Ekoda high school was first used by Yutaka Abe in 100% Tantei Monogatari in 1986 (set in the same universe as Magic Kaito and made with the assistance of Gosho).

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    Photo source: 清水克彦公式ホームページ

  • Chapter 1 (Volume 1, Chapter 1):
    The crossroads the helicopters pass close to the end of the chapter to catch Kaitō Kid is a real crossing in the 4th block of Ginza (Chūō, Tokyo), especially identifiable by the Fujiya store to the left. The view would thus be to the southeast, with the helicopters in consequence flying to the northeast to reach "Ono Bank" (which probably was a nod to the Tokyo Bank, which indeed was located in Nihonbashi - to the northeast of Ginza - back then (before merging with Mitsubishi Bank and moving to Chiyoda), which is supported by the fact that "Ono" was a generic placeholder word for terms with "Tokyo" and "Japan" in it, used by Gosho in the same vein as "Tōto"). Interestingly, this intersection is right next to another famous crossroads in Ginza - the one Kid did his midair walk over in Detective Conan later on.

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    Photo source: Panoramio

  • Chapter 1 (Volume 1, Chapter 1):
    During Kaito's and Jii's fateful encounter, a night-time view of Hotel New Otani Tokyo and its surroundings in the Kioi district of Chiyoda ward (Tokyo) can be seen.

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    Photo source: Wikimedia Commons

  • Chapter 2 (Volume 1, Chapter 2) + chapter 19 (Volume 3, chapter 6):
    Kaito's route from school leads him along a river, which, based on the surroundings, looks a lot like the Arakawa or Edo river and one of their Warren truss steel train bridges, like this one, this one or this one, for example. In chapter 2, he meets the depressed Inspector Nakamori sitting at the riverbank and cheers him up. Gosho lived in the Adachi ward of Tokyo for a while, through which the Arakawa flows - so it maybe served as the inspiration for these moments.

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    Photo sources: Bridge of the Week

  • Chapter 8 (Volume 2, Chapter 2):
    Kaito and Aoko leave one of the central gates of Ikebukuro Station (Ikebukuro district in the Toshima ward, Tokyo) on their way from school. The train station is also named as such.

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    Photo source: LIVE JAPAN

  • Chapter 11 (Volume 2, Chapter 5):
    A good chunk of the chapter revolves around a fake accouncement of Kaitō Kid appearing in Tokyo Dome - which he does, in the end. Tokyo Dome is depicted like it is in real life, situated in the Bunkyō ward. Moreover, according to Gosho himself, he and his editor were especially thrilled by the question "What if Kaitō Kid would appear on a pole in Tokyo Dome?"

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    Photo source: One fine day

  • Chapter 16 (Volume 3, Chapter 3):
    The distinctive tower of the "Ekoda Museum" is actually based on one of three popular towers in Yokohama's Naka ward, the clock tower of the Honcho building, also known as "Jack's Tower", or just "The Jack".

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    Photo source: Justgola

  • Chapter 27 (Volume 4, Chapter 7):
    The Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department (also known as Keishichō) is the real thing from the Kasumigaseki district of Chiyoda, just like it is in Detective Conan.

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    Photo source: Foursquare City Guide

  • Chapter 31 and Chapters 34 - 36 (Volume 5, Chapter 3 and Chapter 6 - 8):
    The unnamed Museum from the very beginning of the first chapter of "Midnight Crow" and the whole of "Sun Halo" is modeled after the National Museum of Nature and Science in the northeast of Ueno Park in the district of the same name - Ueno in Taitō ward of Tokyo.

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    Photo source: The Official Tokyo Travel Guide, GO TOKYO, UENO Cultural Park

  • Chapter 31 - 33 (Volume 5, chapter 3 - 5):
    The skyscraper in Tokyo where Kaitō Kid and Kaitō Corbeau have their duel with the organization in is modeled on the look of the Yokkaichi Portbuilding (四日市港ポートビル) in the city of Yokkaichi, located in the Mie Prefecture.

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    Photo source: 超高層ビル・都市開発研究所

  • Chapters 34 - 36 (Volume 5, Chapter 6 - 8):
    The "Sandei Temple" is modeled after the Nageire Temple in Gosho's home prefecture Tottori, as was also confirmed by him in his comments accompanying these chapters and the in-story explanation that it is said that the Sandei was built after the image of the Nageire (which is denied by the priestess Niwano Yasuyo).

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    Photo source: Heisei Car Rental



Identification pending
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  • The "Minato Police Station" Inspector Nakamori worked at before he was transferred to the Keishichō - there seems to be no precinct of that name and with these looks in Minato (Image)
  • Akako's house (chapters 6, 10, 17 and 36 (Image) - probably using the same model as the Kudo's home (Image; also see the Omake in volume 5) and the house Detective George investigates during his cameo in FILE.102 of Detective Conan (Image))
  • The ski resort the Ekoda High classes drive to during their school trip (chapter 7 (Image))
  • The first appearance of the Blue Parrot Pool Bar (Image) and the American Bar (Image) (chapter 13)
  • Aoko's home (chapter 12 (Image))
  • First version of the Kuroba's home (chapter 19 (Image))
  • Minato Hotel (chapter 22 (Image) - the name is unmistakable, just like with the Minato Police Station, but as far as my research went, there's no building like that in all of Minato (at least not the one in Tokyo) - so where may the original one be?)
  • The "clock tower at the train station" from chapter 23 and 24 (the Detective Conan crossover) (Image)
  • Hotel Ocean (chapters 25 - 26 (Image), located "somewhere remotely between Tokyo and Chiba" according to Inspector Nakamori, which doesn't have to be true for the real building, of course)
  • Second version of the Kuroba's house (chapters 30+ (Image))
  • The new appearance of the Blue Parrot Pool Bar, carried over from FILE.853 - 855 of Detective Conan - even though I have to say that it highly resembles the houses in (the real) Baker Street, especially the Holmes Museum Gosho visited while doing research for the London arc... I'm not completely sure about this one, hence it isn't listed up there, but a similarity and a reason for it to be used as model is there, since Gosho probably had a lot of reference photos left back from his trip to the United Kingdom.

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    Photo source: TripAdvisor

  • ...



Where is it set?
Spoiler:
Magic Kaito probably is one of the easier ones to pinpoint in this regard, since there are some things that seem to be solid evidence for limiting the everyday life locations of the protagonists. For one, we can be assured it's set in the Greater Tokyo Area, since the Metropolitan Police Department Tokyo is in charge of hunting Kaitō Kid and present at every place he's announcing to be - even when it's not in Tokyo.

The daily life of the characters seems to happen at least partly around the border of Nakano and Nerima wards, in or around Ekoda and its neighbouring districts, like Asahigaoka (containing the Ekoda campus of Nihon University and Ekoda Station), Toyotamakami (containing the Ekoda campus of Musashi University) and Ehara (in which Shin-Ekoda Station is situated), as implied by the use of "Ekoda High School" and the "Ekoda Museum". These neighbourhoods were also the area Gosho Aoyama and his then mentor, now assistant Yutaka Abe lived in during their university years, both probably drawing inspiration from their environments, considering both of their respective works back then (Magic Kaito and 100% Tantei Monogatari), which share a common setting (Ekoda High School, probably inspired by the real Ekoda High School that existed in Asahigaoka and modeled after building #3 on the Ekoda campus of Musashi University - see above in the section "Models").

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Ekoda High School in Magic Kaito and 100% Tantei Monogatari, respectively.

The most concrete proof to their (more or less) exact location happens to be the ward in which Aoko's house is situated and, by extension, both she and Kaito live in. In chapter 9 (Volume 2, chapter 3), Kaito gives Aoko one of the RZ-04 mini robots - who chased him as Kid - as a present. She takes it home, while Inspector Nakamori and his policemen geolocate the robot, thinking that it's still following Kaitō Kid. When Aoko enters her home, a policeman says that Kid is now in the Toshima ward.

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Aoko enters her house, which is confirmed to be in the Toshima ward.

Besides Kaito and Aoko most of the time having the same way to and from school, both of them once - in chapter 8 (Volume 2, chapter 2) - fittingly leave Ikebukuro Station together when they go home, which is also in Toshima. Ikebukuro and Ekoda Station are both on the Seibu Ikebukuro Line, only separated by two other train stations and a track distance of 4.3 km (~2.7 mi).

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Kaito and Aoko exit from Ikebukuro Station in Toshima after school.

If we combine these information and put them on a map, it looks like this.
(Blue = Ekoda and related neighbourhoods, like Asahigaoka and Toyotamakami, green = the Toshima ward, pink = the section of Seibu Ikebukuro Line connecting Ekoda and Ikebukuro.)

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The rough real life setting for the Magic Kaito Manga.

Apart from that, we know that the surroundings Kaito, Aoko and the other characters regularly move around in feature one or more so far unnamed train station(s) (mentioned in the "lost story" featured as chapter 13 (chapter 7 of volume 2), as well as chapter 23 and 24 (volume 4, chapter 3)) - which may or may not be identical with Ekoda Station and/or Ikebukuro Station. According to Aoko, the "American Bar" was "next to the train station" until it closed down and it, in turn, seemed to be in the vicinity of the Blue Parrot Pool Bar of Kōnosuke Jii. The clock tower from chapter 23/24 was also said to be "near the station", even though it seemed to be close to Tokyo Tower, so maybe Tokyo Station was the one talked about in this case - which is indeed relatively close to the Tower.

Last but not least, there's an abundance of mentions of "Ono" and things with this word in it (places, buildings, companies, newspapers, ...) until volume 3. It's probably just a placeholder word for all things originally featuring "Tokyo" or "Japan" - just like "Tōto" in Detective Conan, which is used in this series too, nowadays - but considering where Magic Kaito is roughly set, it could also be a deliberate corruption of the name of the Nakano ward (compare Nakano (中野, "middle field") and Ono (小野, "(small) field")). There are countless places called Ono in Japan written with these Kanji alone, emphasizing the arbitrariness of the names - kinda like the "Springfield" from The Simpsons.



Magic Kaito 1412

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Yaiba

Spoilers incoming for everything related to Yaiba, of course.

Manga

Models
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Identification pending
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  • The model for the home of the Mine family, designed like typical Samurai houses (武家屋敷, Buke yashiki) with a typical entrance gate (長屋門, Nagayamon) (Image) (Image 2) (Image 3)
  • Yaoya Junior High School - it looks similar to Ekoda High School in the Magic Kaito Manga, so maybe it also used the Ekoda Campus Building #3 as model? (Image 1) (Image 2) (Image 3) (Note: "Yaoya Junior High School" or "Yaoya Middle School" isn't official, I named it after the fictional district it's set in (Yaoya-chō) and the fact that it is, well, a middle school/junior high school, since we never get a name for it in the Manga).
  • The house of the Onimaru family - also designed like a typical Samurai house
  • The incarnation of Ekoda High School from this series (Image)
  • ...
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Re: Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby Spimer » June 22nd, 2019, 2:23 pm

Wow, this is an amazing piece of intense research!

Thanks a lot for all the time and dedication you've put on it, looking forward to updates!
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Re: Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby k11chi » June 23rd, 2019, 7:02 pm

Thanks for the collection. Some of my favourite places aesthetically are the road trips to places like the Kamaitachi Inn or of course the Kiyomizu Temple but even seeing settings like the aquarium make me want to re-read the case again. :)

Let's hope that Heiji gets some even more beautiful settings. ::)
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Re: Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby Namako » June 24th, 2019, 12:40 pm

Spimer wrote:Wow, this is an amazing piece of intense research!

Thanks a lot for all the time and dedication you've put on it, looking forward to updates!

Thanks a lot to you for the nice words, it's really appreciated. ^^
The next update will be mainly Yaiba-related stuff, which probably isn't very interesting for most people on here (even though I have to say that DCTP seems kinda like a ghost town at the moment, anyway XD), I promise that more Detective Conan stuff is coming - I haven't even started the section about its Anime locations.

k11chi wrote:Thanks for the collection. Some of my favourite places aesthetically are the road trips to places like the Kamaitachi Inn or of course the Kiyomizu Temple but even seeing settings like the aquarium make me want to re-read the case again. :)

Let's hope that Heiji gets some even more beautiful settings. ::)

I can help you with those (if you didn't know before):
The Kamaitachi Inn is modeled after the Echigoya Ryokan in Narai (Shiojiri-shi), in the midst of the mountains of Nagano Prefecture, at an old route between Tokyo (Edo back then) and Kyoto - so yes, the description about the "Kamaitachi Inn" being "in the mountains of Nagano" in the Manga is certainly true for its reference building.

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Photo source: Peter Thoeny on Flickr

The Kiyomizu-dera, on the other hand, is supposed to be the real deal from the Higashiyama ward of Kyoto.

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Photo source: Jordy Meow on Wikimedia Commons

I'll add these two with the next update. If someone has any other requests for the real world models of places in Gosho's works, tell me - I'll add them with a higher priority (if I should already have identified them), research them or put them on the "Identification pending" list first if I shouldn't find them for now.
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Re: Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby Tsuburaya Mitsuhiko » June 24th, 2019, 8:53 pm

Seriously, this is great work. Thank you for the effort. I've always wondered about the inspirations for all these diferent places seen in the manga. Where exactly or approximately would the Kudo residence be located I wonder ?
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Re: Location hunting - The real places behind Gosho Aoyama's works

Postby Namako » August 15th, 2019, 7:16 am

Tsuburaya Mitsuhiko wrote:Seriously, this is great work. Thank you for the effort. I've always wondered about the inspirations for all these diferent places seen in the manga.

Thank you, too. :) I always wondered about this stuff too in the past, that's why I started this research. :D And there are still a lot of places and buildings to go.

Where exactly or approximately would the Kudo residence be located I wonder ?

I'm afraid Gosho will probably never directly answer stuff like the protagonist's homes locations himself. But, the next best thing would be the map of Beika from the Digest Books - I once turned it to the left by 90 degrees and compared it with a real map of the north-western Tokyo Bay (i.e. the rough place deduced from the Manga hints):

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The scan of the Beika map is from a chinese version of the Digest Book from http://aptx4869.126.com/ - but it seems to be offline by now.

Even though one has to keep in mind that the Beika map is highly abstract, it's noticeable how much the two maps resemble each other - Tōkyō Tower is Tōtō Tower (in red) anyway, as we know; the rail lines (pink) are similar, the river at the bottom (which is probably supposed to be the Teimuzu on the Beika map) reminds of the course of Meguro River (light blue) and "Beika Wharf" seems to be a stand-in for Harumi Wharf (blue). So, if we would take the map at face value (which I wouldn't, to be honest, as I will explain farther below) and try to reconcile the abstraction and contortion between both maps, the 2nd block of Beika (the dark green square, including the Kudo's home and Agasa's house) would be very roughly around the border area of Minato and Shinagawa - maybe close to Sengakuji or Shinagawa Station.

But now about the counter-arguments: Besides this map very probably being non-canon and despite of it coming from one of the Digest Books, it's highly likely that it wasn't drawn by Gosho himself (who denied ever drawing a map of Beika) and it contradicts the Manga hints in some regards. The artist in charge of this page probably took the same hints I did for Beika's approximate position (or just the fact that it's somewhat close to or including Tokyo Tower) and drew this map as a fictionalized version of East Tokyo Bay of their own accord, more or less randomly filling it with places from Detective Conan that came to their mind. Alas, like I've said, it's the next best thing we've got right now. :D Perhaps Gosho will clarify stuff like this once Detective Conan is over one day, even though I also doubt he will even do that.

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