Detective Conan Movie 22 (2018) - Zero's Enforcer (ゼロの執行人) - Friday April 13

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Re: Detective Conan Movie 22 (2018) - Zero's Enforcer (ゼロの執行人) - Friday April 13

Postby Haibara & Aika ryona » November 27th, 2017, 4:58 pm

kkuuddoo wrote:
Haibara & Aika ryona wrote:
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Jecka wrote:So basically, this is another spy movie.


And the most awful one; because this movie in my opinion is an only documentary film


Depends on its execution. M20 had numerous problems due to how the focus was more on fanservice (the opening car chase, Rei and Akai's fight) than on having a coherent plot (Kir shouldn't be listed as CIA because even American agencies had trouble getting that info, Akai should be trying to stay hidden, why would the PSB not have Rei's information better hidden, etc.).

However, a spy film could work if it's handled a certain way, regarding the tone and Detective Conan being a mystery series- a focus on investigation and observation, which is subtler and closer to how most real life spies operate.


In reality, both are one of the worst movies in my opinion. I do explained my opinion about that movie in its thread that been closed. I didn't understand any point from that movie at all, is that movie to make us scared from Ghost Rum? Or to see the most stupid fight around th world? Or to see conan who is in my opinion have two faces; because he is leaving who he wants and only catch what he wants? Or too see the one who really disappointed me i mean Gin, or to see Vermouth who easly become one of my hate character, surely i always love jodie more than vermouth but still both really dissapointed me.

I this movie, they only want us to love bourbon even if they do know that what they made with is extremely stupid, and he is one of the worst human ever. I do not have any hope for this documentary movie. Yes, you can say that movie number two is for kogoro mori, but there was a really planned story, and very well events, but this movie is more for history, it is really documentary boring movie. You will see the same with movie two, but still there was a story. Here, no


Although I do respect you and that you have your own opinions,

I think you are judging the movie way to soon, We still don't know what the story is going to be and how it will play out. I understand you hate the character Bourbon and that he having a big role in the movie seems horrible to you, but I think you might want to be patient and wait for the movie to come out then judge it as you like. I would recommend you at least wait for the trailer, it might catch your interest in one way or another. I personally don't judge movie until I watch them, and since we are different people with different opinions I know that we will disagree on many things.

It's true that time has taken a toll on Conan and its character development, but many of the recent manga file and episodes are not bad, and are enjoyable. Conan does seem more focused on Rum on the moment and not the BO as a whole, but since he barely has any information, he has to cling on the information he has on hand for the moment.

I honestly disliked bourbon for a while, when I learned he was a spy, because I wanted a real BO member. However, I actually like him, and think that he might have a great role in the future, especially when it comes to haibara, I am hoping he might help her learn more about her mother at least.
i always love people who love haibara my best character, and love her family akemi atsushi miyano, and best elena, and I do love sera and her mother because they looks like t9 be her family,; because i think th!t they are like me when they like haibara, and her family, and this what make me love you, and want to be one of your best friends here, and i do l8ked you post, and whatever you believed me or did not believe me, but I do hope that conan to back to the real dc anime wbich is my real best anime. I am watching this anime for twe ty years which means from the time that i was borned which means from 1994. I do love conan from first episode until 450, and from movie number 1 until movie number ten; so when I am saying these th8ngs because i do know dc anime. I don't like any manga, and only like the anime so my opinion onpy from the anime. It is not from nowhere my opinion, and i am not the only one who said these opinion, and i do respect your opinions, and assumptions, but i do say what i think.

Secondly, let's back to the mean reason of why i don't think that this movie will do anything; is that this character didn't do anything right from the time it appears until now; so why I should hope if I know the answer already, but for you then let's hope the difference will be in this time. For this character, you still think that he is good after being the reason of why the train exploded, and he was nearby to kill the an9ther stupid one kid who disguised as haibara. He was the reason of why the jodie's friend in the hospital, a lot of reasons that i write in movie 20 thread that I wrote.

Anyway, in the future, still in future, why i should wait again for the future, even if i think that it will not affect the story to much. How many years that we spent for this character bourbon, please tell me. To me, i do not judge the episode from first episodes, but when it takes more than 100 episodes and nothing good happens in this time then surely anyone will dislike the anime, and even the 100 is too much
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Re: Detective Conan Movie 22 (2018) - Zero's Enforcer (ゼロの執行人) - Friday April 13

Postby kkuuddoo » November 27th, 2017, 5:50 pm

Haibara & Aika ryona wrote:Secondly, let's back to the mean reason of why i don't think that this movie will do anything; is that this character didn't do anything right from the time it appears until now; so why I should hope if I know the answer already, but for you then let's hope the difference will be in this time. For this character, you still think that he is good after being the reason of why the train exploded, and he was nearby to kill the an9ther stupid one kid who disguised as haibara. He was the reason of why the jodie's friend in the hospital, a lot of reasons that i write in movie 20 thread that I wrote.



I think you are mistaken with some facts,

Bourbon isn't the reason why the train exploded, in fact he did not know about the explosions until Sherry ( Kaito kid ) told him
Vermouth wanted to kill Haibara (shiho) and ruin Bourbons plan
Also, Akai is the one who threw a grenade and caused the explosions to explode
bourbon did have some explosions, but they seemed to be small and just enough to disconnect the cart
I believe that bourbon was planning to disconnect the last cart and someone from his spy agency will collect her, and maybe he will be reunited with Elena's daughter, but vermouth put explosives, and akai threw the grenade. I know he said he wanted to take her back to the organization alive, but I don't think he was being honest. He know the Bo will kill her no matter what, so I believe he was arranging for someone to take her to safety and not back to the BO.

He was indeed planning to hurt Jodie's friend, but he didn't, because someone else did, and he did call the ambulance for help but left because vermouth was with him.


P.s. I am sorry we got a little out of the main subject if this thread, So lets end this here !
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Postby Haibara & Aika ryona » November 27th, 2017, 11:21 pm

Anyway, this what i see, and this what I think about movie. And the main important reason is that I don't see anything interesting in the story
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Re: Detective Conan Movie 22 (2018) - Zero's Enforcer (ゼロの執行人) - Friday April 13

Postby Wakarimashita » November 28th, 2017, 11:27 am

The website has been updated :

http://www.conan-movie.jp/

Official synopsis :

In this movie's story, a large-scale bombing incident targetting the Tokyo Summit Hall triggers a head-on collision between Conan, a detective and the Public Safety Police, and Amuro Tooru appears as a main character after he did so in the 20th Movie "The Darknest Nightmare"! Look forward to how those two who clash to protect their respective "justice" end up like


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Postby Nemomon » November 28th, 2017, 2:36 pm

Wakarimashita wrote:Every year someone cries on these posters. Last year it was Momiji, this year it's Ran.


Next year it will be Rum ;) :P

The poster is pretty nice, and the title promissing too.
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Postby Haibara & Aika ryona » November 28th, 2017, 2:54 pm

Nemomon wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote:Every year someone cries on these posters. Last year it was Momiji, this year it's Ran.


Next year it will be Rum ;) :P
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Hope to see rum cry hahaha ^^ :)
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Postby Nemomon » November 28th, 2017, 3:19 pm

Haibara & Aika ryona wrote:
Nemomon wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote:Every year someone cries on these posters. Last year it was Momiji, this year it's Ran.


Next year it will be Rum ;) :P
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Hope to see rum cry hahaha ^^ :)


And the whole movie will be about figuring out why they're crying. Because they didn't appear in person in the series yet, or maybe because they've noticed they're a rat within the BO as well ;).
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Postby Haibara & Aika ryona » November 28th, 2017, 3:31 pm

Nemomon wrote:
Haibara & Aika ryona wrote:
Nemomon wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote:Every year someone cries on these posters. Last year it was Momiji, this year it's Ran.


Next year it will be Rum ;) :P
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Hope to see rum cry hahaha ^^ :)


And the whole movie will be about figuring out why they're crying. Because they didn't appear in person in the series yet, or maybe because they've noticed they're a rat within the BO as well ;).


Even if I don't have hopes for Rum, and don't like it at all, but really this idea so a good idea, and and this really a nice change if you ask me
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Postby Misztina » November 28th, 2017, 3:43 pm

ANN about the plot:
Spoiler:
" Kogorō is arrested as a suspect in the case of the explosion. Conan conducts an investigation to prove Kogorō's innocence, but Amuro gets in his way."


I always thought that it might come up in the manga, I've never expected it in a movie. I like that part of it already.

I like the poster. I think, the last poster which had my eyebrows rise was when Conan was riding a fire-horse (rapidash from Pokémon ;D ). All the others made by Gosho are well made. I like them a lot.

I expect nothing really. I expected something in the last two movies and I couldn't watch any of them without skipping scenes.
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Postby Kor » November 28th, 2017, 4:01 pm

Misztina wrote:ANN about the plot:
Spoiler:
" Kogorō is arrested as a suspect in the case of the explosion. Conan conducts an investigation to prove Kogorō's innocence, but Amuro gets in his way."


I always thought that it might come up in the manga, I've never expected it in a movie. I like that part of it already.


Didn't that already happen in the manga in some manner?
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Postby kkuuddoo » November 28th, 2017, 4:10 pm

Kor wrote:
Misztina wrote:ANN about the plot:
Spoiler:
" Kogorō is arrested as a suspect in the case of the explosion. Conan conducts an investigation to prove Kogorō's innocence, but Amuro gets in his way."


I always thought that it might come up in the manga, I've never expected it in a movie. I like that part of it already.


Didn't that already happen in the manga in some manner?


Yes it did, He was found inside a room where an attorney was murdered and Eri blamed him, as he was taken away Eri tried to clear him from the crime, and her attorney guy friend was the killer this time

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Postby dccd » November 28th, 2017, 8:35 pm

Dunno if it was mentioned yet:

All 3 characters in the sky only reveal one eye.
Ran = feminine
Kuroda = old
Amuro = strong

Doesnt need to mean anything and might be pure coincidence.
Still somehow weird why he chose Ran since theres no indication of her having an important role so far.
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Postby k11chi » November 29th, 2017, 3:39 am

So from what I can gather they seem to imply that this movie might have Conan vs Amuro in an intellectual way. >:D "Look forward to how those two who clash to protect their respective "justice" end up like"

dccd wrote:Dunno if it was mentioned yet:

All 3 characters in the sky only reveal one eye.
Ran = feminine
Kuroda = old
Amuro = strong

Doesnt need to mean anything and might be pure coincidence.
Still somehow weird why he chose Ran since theres no indication of her having an important role so far.

Lol...
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Postby Misztina » November 29th, 2017, 11:08 am

kkuuddoo wrote:
Yes it did, He was found inside a room where an attorney was murdered and Eri blamed him, as he was taken away Eri tried to clear him from the crime, and her attorney guy friend was the killer this time

Volume 27: Files 1-3 (264-266) Episode 199-200


Oh, okay, I totally forgot that case. Thanks. ^^
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Postby Spimer » November 29th, 2017, 4:48 pm

Further information about M22:

https://mantan-web.jp/article/20171128d ... 4000c.html

Enclosed in spoiler box due to length of article text
Spoiler:
The 22nd movie of the popular "Detective Conan" anime, "Zero's Enforcer" will be released in April 13th, 2018, as revealed on the 29th [of November].
Following from the 20th movie "The Darkest Nightmare", Amuro Tooru will appear as a main character, as well as the the Tokyo MPD Superintendent Kuroda Hyoue, rumored to possibly the Black Organizaton's No.2, RUM.
The director in charge is Mr. Tachikawa Yuzuru who's directed "Mob Psycho 100" amongst other films.

In "Zero's Enforcer", a bombing incident suddenly happens in the gigantic facility "Edge Of Ocean" which is the hall of the Tokyo Summit.
And it happens that... The silhouette of Amuro Tooru, who belongs to the NPA's secret organization (AKA Zero) that controls all of the nation's Public Safety Police was there.
Amuro is an important character who was a "triple face" as the private detective "Amuro Tooru" who's Mouri Kogorou's disciple, the Black Organization member "Bourbon" and the Public Safety Police [Officer] "Furuya Rei".
Amuro acts in a threatening manner and the main protagonist Edogawa Conan & co. are being triffled by those: in the meanwhile, Mouri Kogorou is arrested as the suspect of the bombing incident.
Conan chases the truth to prove Kogorou's innocence but Amuro blocks his way so they will clash: that will be seen in this movie

"Detective Conan" is a popular manga in which the elementary school detective Edogawa Conan solves hard cases one after the other, and Mr. Aoyama Gosho is serializing it in the "Shonen Sunday" (Shogakukan) since 1994.
A Television Anime is being broadcasted since 1996, and a Anime Movie was created in 1997.
The 21st film released on April of this year, "The Crimson Love Letter" was a hit, registering the series' highest performance income of approximately 6,880,000,000 Yens. [Aprox. 62.802.000 USD]
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