"Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby irishock » May 14th, 2017, 8:17 pm

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irishock wrote:Lol I'm not saying it's misplaced in that it didn't deserve to be in there, just that I didn't think that song fit the atmosphere well iN THAT CONTEXT... I think Nazo would've been better


What can I say—I've got a ways to go to not come off as some super-offended fanboy who flips at the drop of a hat. :-[ So my apologies if your initial reaction to my post was, "WTF...?"

I think Unmei no Roulette Mawashite was better suited for that scene, given that it was a Shinichi/Ran scene—I associate Unmei no Roulette Mawashite with Shinichi/Ran more than I associate them with Nazo.


I love ZARD more than I love Conan itself but honestly the Roulette song.. especially the disk version and not the TV version.. might be one of her weakest. It's like yeah it has the nostalgia feel to it, but that's about it. I think there's a reason she never sang it in any of her concerts. Also the TV version is multiple times more uplifting, but they didn't use it. For that scene, I'd say Roulette (TV) version > Nazo >>> Roulette (album version).
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » May 14th, 2017, 11:14 pm

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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
irishock wrote:Lol I'm not saying it's misplaced in that it didn't deserve to be in there, just that I didn't think that song fit the atmosphere well iN THAT CONTEXT... I think Nazo would've been better


What can I say—I've got a ways to go to not come off as some super-offended fanboy who flips at the drop of a hat. :-[ So my apologies if your initial reaction to my post was, "WTF...?"

I think Unmei no Roulette Mawashite was better suited for that scene, given that it was a Shinichi/Ran scene—I associate Unmei no Roulette Mawashite with Shinichi/Ran more than I associate them with Nazo.


I love ZARD more than I love Conan itself but honestly the Roulette song.. especially the disk version and not the TV version.. might be one of her weakest. It's like yeah it has the nostalgia feel to it, but that's about it. I think there's a reason she never sang it in any of her concerts. Also the TV version is multiple times more uplifting, but they didn't use it. For that scene, I'd say Roulette (TV) version > Nazo >>> Roulette (album version).


Ah, so it wasn't just that they cut parts of the song—like they've typically do for intros/closings—the album version and the TV version were not one in the same.
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Postby kkslider5552000 » May 15th, 2017, 5:01 am

-I find it impossible to believe they thought there was an audience in Japan who never knew how Shinichi turned into Conan who was also watching this. Just say it's an expanded recap or something, don't pretend it's an actual mystery for some imaginary audience.

-I do miss the days when I thought Gin's hair going from blond to grey was a plot point

-Starting with Shiho is a good start to anything

-Oh the Aquarium episode...k

-I hear people talk about Roulette, thankfully I didn't seem to realize that the original HIGH LOWS Opening is here, hype yeah!

-Though I hope Step by Step isn't, that needs to be in the final episode of the anime

-"Sounds like a fun place" what was with the tone of that line?

-I can't help but think "how did Ran have a newer phone like that before an event that was in 1994/6?"

-Vodka's just at a bar. Bet he's like "y'know, I'm not even much of an alcohol guy but I have to keep up appearances..."

-"Rum" Don't tease me!

-Ok, that was a great fakeout followed by death scene

-One of the absolute best parts of the anime, mainly the movies, is that Gin is allowed to be the gloriously scary murderer that he clearly is and I love it so much.

-This early DB cameo is a better idea than the one in the actual first episode tbh

-Sonoko: Narrator of Ran's life

-THIS GUY OMG. FAKE WHEELCHAIR GUY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING

-Agasa died on his way back to his home planet

-If there's anything I wish they brought back Akira Kamiya for, it's this.

-GOD DAMMIT MAKOTO. I mean, that is how it happened but still, this is a bit much.

-Also, Sonoko is the coolest friend

-Ran's power to summon storm clouds is an unexpected part of this story

-This one guy looks like a 30 year old Mitsuhiko almost

-TAKAGI WASN'T HERE YOU LIARS > : (

-No goofy pat on the back?! Disappointing! :(

-Hello Mizunashi Rena!

-Ran destroying that pillar was actually funnier in this one

-Ran used Triple Kick! It missed!

-"Let's use this disguise in 1 year real time, or X number of days in-universe"

-So because it's "Cola Cola" they don't have to give Coke money. Even though it looks nearly identical. K

-So many callbacks, so little time

-Roulette is not a particularly great song but I kinda like the music behind this version better than the other versions.

-I will say the original version of this visit to Tropical Land is the worst version for making it seem like Ran actually enjoyed Shinichi's company. So this is an improvement by default.

-OMG I FORGOT. GIN AND VODKA GET ON THE ROLLERCOASTER. YESSSSSSSS

-JUST NO REACTION. Though I do wish Vodka was having fun.

-Chianti and Korn's scene was amazing

-SO MUCH BLOOD

-"CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE" I'M SORRY, WHAT?! WHAT?!?!!? Um...I hate to tell you this, but I think when your head is entirely taken off of your body...it's a little too late for that!

-Gin, what do you think would happen after you killed the inspector?

-I wonder if Gin is remotely impressed by any of this or if just entirely doesn't care

-So I guess Chiba is dating her now :V

-Vodka is so annoyed at the idea of him knowing anything about the Organization that he tells him the Organization's plan. ....wait what?

-I don't remember it being this horrific

-Oh no, his inner voice is Shinichi! It's Case Closed! :o

-Oh cool, this scene is more like the manga instead of Conan escaping THAT quickly.

-"Scientifically, it's impossible...but you knew about my butt..."

-Only now have I realized how silly it is that Ran told this kid she just met about her crush. "I've literally never told my best friend or any of my family, but some kid I just met? Ok!

-Ok, this montage of the early cases is awesome

-"Hey Hattori. Have you ever killed a person?"

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Despite the fact that I had a few issues with this, it was awesome. Just seeing these iconic scenes (with some new ones) play out with new animation is so enjoyable. Though I swear this is like my 6th or 7th time going through the first episode's story. I honestly wonder though, if they're gonna do another one. I doubt it would be soon but I'd be down for Episode One Twenty Nine for the 25th anniversary.
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby usotsuki » May 17th, 2017, 1:08 am

There's 2 TV versions of Unmei BTW...but I preferred the first and edited it in over the second.
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby shocky2002 » May 18th, 2017, 7:23 pm

Gin must've been sweating like a motherf***** during the whole ordeal. What if Shinichi wrongly deduced him as the murderer and he got taken in by the police right then and there lmao
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby Nemomon » May 18th, 2017, 11:21 pm

Gin was about to shoot to the policemen and Megure, but was stopped by Shinichi. I doubt this was an ordeal for him.
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby shocky2002 » May 19th, 2017, 12:14 am

Probably can't survive an onslaught from the police though. It's over for him right there, unless Chianti/Korn are backing him up
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Re: "Episode One : The Shortened Detective" 2h special (December the 9th)

Postby k11chi » May 19th, 2017, 1:05 pm

shocky2002 wrote:Probably can't survive an onslaught from the police though. It's over for him right there, unless Chianti/Korn are backing him up

Or Vodka has bombs on him and goes kamikaze.
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Postby Scarlet Rose » May 21st, 2017, 4:26 pm

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-OMG I FORGOT. GIN AND VODKA GET ON THE ROLLERCOASTER. YESSSSSSSS

-JUST NO REACTION. Though I do wish Vodka was having fun.



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Postby kkslider5552000 » May 22nd, 2017, 1:31 am

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