Detective Conan Movie 20: "The Darkest Nightmare" (2016)

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A pity that the police and FBI cast is useless in this movie. Same for Kogoro and Ran. Really want to know more about Rei-Matsuda relationship. No cheesy Shin-Ran stuff, which is good.
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As was announced today, the home video release of The Darkest Nightmare has been postponed to October 26.
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This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
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Kor wrote:The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid
That was Gosho demand though. He wanted that scene but the anime team didn't do well enough, maybe because that was not in the script.
But at least it is more interesting than movie 17 and 19.
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Kor wrote:The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid
That was Gosho demand though. He wanted that scene but the anime team didn't do well enough, maybe because that was not in the script.
Welp, Gosho COULD have just have them fight in the manga when it was actually appropriate if he wanted them to fight so much. Not that a Gosho demand really excuses anything. Not that Gosho hasn't made plenty of terrible decisions in the past.
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Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
So where does this go on the rankings, then? How does it compare with, say, Movie 11 (the one most consider to be the worst)?
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Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
Am I allowed to talk about this movie without spoiler tags yet? Because I want to rant.
Wow.
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Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
This makes me think there's a good chance I'll love this movie tbh.
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LadyCider wrote:
Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
Am I allowed to talk about this movie without spoiler tags yet? Because I want to rant.
You could rant with spoiler tags.
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Is it the Movie 14-esque use of the soccer ball belt? The Movie 16-esque use of the suspenders?

Is it the insane amount of over-the-top action, either in the first ten minutes or in the last half hour?

Is it the fact that the movies are bound by manga canon, leading to the stars quo being maintained?

Is it that a lot of characters that were in this movie could've been removed and nothing would have changed?

Is it Rei/Tooru Vs. Shuichi? Did that conflict just not do it for you?

Is it Hidemi/Rena/Kir (or whoever else you want to put here, like Shiho/Ai, Ran, Kogoro, or the FBI characters) having pretty much no impact?

Is it that, in the movie-verse, the BO can't be taken down by all the world's intelligence agencies?

Is it that this is pretty much an action movie rather than a mystery movie... as in, there's pretty much no mystery? That Movie 20 has less of a mystery than, say, Movie 13?

Is it because the DBs have a larger role in here than you think they should?

Did Curacao just not do it for you?

Is it the similarity to Movie 13 and Movie 18, in terms of how the BO was defeated?

Is it the inadequacy the NPA Security Bureau displays, here?

Is it Shinichi/Conan, Shuichi and Rei/Tooru outshining everyone else?

And, finally, where does this one rank on your list, in terms of all the DC movies?
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This movie is hilarious it was awesome and amazing. All the bo members were there and akai also it was good.......did you ever wondered that every member who knows haibara's true identity dies before passing the information to the organization????
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@HAIBARA: To keep the status quo, of course. I think that not even the movies dare to kill a main character.

And it's not like there've been that many who found out about Haibara's identity.

There was Pisco who was about to tell Gin but got killed because he screwed it up on the politician's murder
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Irish figured out Conan's identity but didn't know about Haibara: he didn't intend to tell Gin because he ressented how he killed Pisco
Vermouth doesn't want to say it because she owes her life to Ran and Conan
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Curasco had a change of heart and wanted to leave the BO
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Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
From this it seems I will hate it as much as I did with movie 13 :-X I hope it is not even worse :|
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kholoudsafir wrote:
Kor wrote:This movie was certainly heavy handed, and dumb, and silly, and included characters that didn't really need to be there, and I felt really tired after watching it.
The reason why Akai and Amuro fight is incredibly stupid. Many of the action scenes are downright absurd to the annoying level. Got tired of ninja Akai really fast.
Maybe I'll make a longer post about this later.

Congratulations Conan team, you managed to make a BO movie that made me even get tired of the BO by the end.
From this it seems I will hate it as much as I did with movie 13 :-X I hope it is not even worse :|
You probably will, because Movie 20 is more of an action movie than a mystery movie... in fact, the mystery is... well... not really there.
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It certainly isn't mystery movie and focuses more on action. That said, it's not a good action movie either.
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Kor wrote:It certainly isn't mystery movie and focuses more on action. That said, it's not a good action movie either.
And there's the execution part—whether it's a good or bad action movie.
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