DC and culture

[kholoudsafir]

I would like to discus women's presentation in DC. It was mentioned earlier here that ladies are expected to leave their jobs when the get marry. Shinichi's mother ,for example, has left the spot lights to be with her husband, she seems to be happy, I can not remember a place where she has expressed her regrets about that. Actually, I can not remember AT ALL if in ANY case women has complained about sitting home or their social status. On the other hand, we have many successful ladies like Eri and Sato, as well as the random ladies in the cases.

In western point of view this might seem wrong, again here we do NOT want to judge cultures, whatever seems wrong to you wrong about ladies positions in Japan, they might be happy about it.

In my opinion, it is nice to have a career as a lady, but when you decide to have a family, it is better to concentrate on that; children are 24/7 job, as a mother you might miss the most beautiful important moments in your child's life. However, after children start going nursery and school, there is nothing wrong in pursuing your career. 

Is Gosho trying to give a brighter image than the reality?

I guess it is like my home country, the new generation of ladies are the ones who are more into having careers and late marriages.

[mangaluva]

I don't know, it doesn't seem too different from things where I live. Most women give up their careers at least for a while when they have kids, until they're in school. Some go back, some don't. Kids are just so much more dependant on the mothers than the fathers that it makes sense, really.

[Misztina]

A question popped into my mind while reading file 727.

Spoiler:

When Ran rushed to get the letter, I noticed that all the names of those who live there are written out next to the door. Is it normal that they even wrote out Ran's and Conan's name too?

[Abs.]

I would like to discus women's presentation in DC. It was mentioned earlier here that ladies are expected to leave their jobs when the get marry. Shinichi's mother ,for example, has left the spot lights to be with her husband, she seems to be happy, I can not remember a place where she has expressed her regrets about that. Actually, I can not remember AT ALL if in ANY case women has complained about sitting home or their social status. On the other hand, we have many successful ladies like Eri and Sato, as well as the random ladies in the cases.

In western point of view this might seem wrong, again here we do NOT want to judge cultures, whatever seems wrong to you wrong about ladies positions in Japan, they might be happy about it.

In my opinion, it is nice to have a career as a lady, but when you decide to have a family, it is better to concentrate on that; children are 24/7 job, as a mother you might miss the most beautiful important moments in your child's life. However, after children start going nursery and school, there is nothing wrong in pursuing your career. 

Is Gosho trying to give a brighter image than the reality?

I guess it is like my home country, the new generation of ladies are the ones who are more into having careers and late marriages.

Ah, the good old days.  When only one wage-earner per family was necessary.

You know how it is now in Japan?  Everyone's so focused on their jobs that they're not getting married or having kids.  Therefore, low birth rate + lots of old people = Japan is dying.

[GinRei]

Ah, the good old days.  When only one wage-earner per family was necessary.

You know how it is now in Japan?  Everyone's so focused on their jobs that they're not getting married or having kids.  Therefore, low birth rate + lots of old people = Japan is dying.

And please, no one post the standard otaku response of, "I volunteer my services" or anything of that nature.

[Xytan]

kholoudsafir

Shes married to an extremely famous mystery writer. On average he has millions and millions of dollars, combined with her own. All they have to do is put that in the stock market or a high interests savings account (10M * .02 = 200,000!) and they pretty much float themselves, not to mention novelties from the books that are still being sold and Yukiko's own money.

Why would she go back? Oh hey, I don't have to work anymore? Take care of the kid? Yeah I can see that happening, in most societies even American and European ones as well have the mother as a household domesticated goddess. Perhaps instead of Yukiko, compare that with somebody else who has done similar? In Yukiko's case, she gave up working to just sit at home and be with someone that meant the world to her.

[kholoudsafir]

kholoudsafir

Shes married to an extremely famous mystery writer. On average he has millions and millions of dollars, combined with her own. All they have to do is put that in the stock market or a high interests savings account (10M * .02 = 200,000!) and they pretty much float themselves, not to mention novelties from the books that are still being sold and Yukiko's own money.

Why would she go back? Oh hey, I don't have to work anymore? Take care of the kid? Yeah I can see that happening, in most societies even American and European ones as well have the mother as a household domesticated goddess. Perhaps instead of Yukiko, compare that with somebody else who has done similar? In Yukiko's case, she gave up working to just sit at home and be with someone that meant the world to her.

I do not know many examples from DC apart from Yukiko who has done this, do you?

To make my point clearer, I know that in the west many ladies leave their jobs permanently or temporarily after having kids, but as we discussed earlier I understood that when the marriage takes place, the lady is expected to leave her job, NOT until she has the kids, please CORRECT me if I misunderstood?

To compare this in DC, I found Yukiko and made me think of Eri, if she and Kogoro stayed together, would Gosho put her as an attorney like she is now? or a house wife? 

[kholoudsafir]

 

A question popped into my mind while reading file 727.

Spoiler:

When Ran rushed to get the letter, I noticed that all the names of those who live there are written out next to the door. Is it normal that they even wrote out Ran's and Conan's name too?

I did not realise that the writing next to the door was the household names.

That is pretty interesting to put even the children's names.

[kholoudsafir]

Here in the UK kids do not walk alone, even to school, (I think they are allowed from the age of 10), however in developing countries they do and they even take transport.

Now, watching DC and the detective boys, who are supposed to be around 7, hang about in the city, take different public transport without an adult has shocked me.

Does this really happen in Japan? or has Gosho slipped?

[Abs.]

Here in the UK kids do not walk alone, even to school, (I think they are allowed from the age of 10), however in developing countries they do and they even take transport.

Now, watching DC and the detective boys, who are supposed to be around 7, hang about in the city, take different public transport without an adult has shocked me.

is this a reality? or has Gosho slipped?

It is reality.  There are virtually no crimes such as child kidnappings (well, with the exception of when an American father kidnaps his own children.)  There is even a television program called "The First Errand" where kids as young as 3 years old go out "on their own" to do errands for their parents (and hilarity often results) - just watch Episode 59.

[kholoudsafir]

It is reality.  There are virtually no crimes such as child kidnappings (well, with the exception of when an American father kidnaps his own children.)  There is even a television program called "The First Errand" where kids as young as 3 years old go out "on their own" to do errands for their parents (and hilarity often results) - just watch Episode 59.

that is a joke! and I can imagine how hilarious it is. Lucky Japanese children, they are given the chance to be more independent at an early age. Also, it helps to give the courage to the parents to let go of their children.

Do you remember how old were you when first went somewhere all by yourself, such as school? 

[dilbertschalter]

It is reality.  There are virtually no crimes such as child kidnappings (well, with the exception of when an American father kidnaps his own children.)  There is even a television program called "The First Errand" where kids as young as 3 years old go out "on their own" to do errands for their parents (and hilarity often results) - just watch Episode 59.

that is a joke! and I can imagine how hilarious it is. Lucky Japanese children, they are given the chance to be more independent at an early age. Also, it helps to give the courage to the parents to let go of their children.

Do you remember how old were you when first went somewhere all by yourself, such as school? 

The funny thing is that Japan currently has serious issues with children remaining too attached to their households and living off their parents well after they should be in the working world.

[kkslider5552000]

It is reality.  There are virtually no crimes such as child kidnappings (well, with the exception of when an American father kidnaps his own children.)  There is even a television program called "The First Errand" where kids as young as 3 years old go out "on their own" to do errands for their parents (and hilarity often results) - just watch Episode 59.

that is a joke! and I can imagine how hilarious it is. Lucky Japanese children, they are given the chance to be more independent at an early age. Also, it helps to give the courage to the parents to let go of their children.

Do you remember how old were you when first went somewhere all by yourself, such as school? 

The funny thing is that Japan currently has serious issues with children remaining too attached to their households and living off their parents well after they should be in the working world.

Hooray for complete opposite extremes! 

[Misztina]

Do you remember how old were you when first went somewhere all by yourself, such as school? 

Yup, I was 7. Until then my parents were scared that I may be hit by a car. The probability of getting hit by a car was/is higher than kidnapping. Wandering alone to elsewhere than school or shopping was allowed when I was roughly 10. I can see the reason why. XD;

The Japanese children must be cute, when they do their first shopping. <3

[mangaluva]

It is reality.  There are virtually no crimes such as child kidnappings (well, with the exception of when an American father kidnaps his own children.)  There is even a television program called "The First Errand" where kids as young as 3 years old go out "on their own" to do errands for their parents (and hilarity often results) - just watch Episode 59.

that is a joke! and I can imagine how hilarious it is. Lucky Japanese children, they are given the chance to be more independent at an early age. Also, it helps to give the courage to the parents to let go of their children.

Do you remember how old were you when first went somewhere all by yourself, such as school? 

Is it really that weird? I didn't find it odd because I've always walked to school myself, since I was five- but then, my primary school was literally five minutes from my house, and I went in a group with the other kids on my street, since most of them were within two years of my age either way. Most kids tend to walk on their own where I live, because everyone who lives in my town works elsewhere, so generally has a longer commute in the morning.