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Arghh... I just lost the text I was about to post... So, again.  :-[
AICHAN wrote: wow,i really want to know what is a solid proof?do you want to see haibara praising conan all the time? do you want to see ai blushing every time she talks to conan? it's not in her personality to show her feelings(althought she did blush a little sometimes--->the" there is something in my face"scene^^ and more recently,when ayumi thought something happened between conan and ai(vol 60))
do you want to see her saying to conan "i like you" or "i love you"?even in the canon pairigs,they don't admit it
With "proof" I mean something like this:
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Okay, that one is a bit too obivious, even for me.

And this:
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Or this:
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Or maybe that:
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But this isn't something I consider evidence for a pairing (or one-sided love):
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Well, actually it is: But for Conan towards Ran.
Well, I think we can see: In cannon pairings, they admit it! Either by words (Ran) or by actions (Takagi and his ring), but in any way obvious enough so the readers notices it.
then with the same logic there is also no proof that Heiji likes Kazuha.
you said it yourself. Haibara won't declare her love, but it doesn't mean she doesn't love as well. Why would she say outloud that she loves Conan if she sees that there is no chance that something will happen between them? She will just get hurt, and she doesn't want to get hurt. She knows Conan doesn't feel the same way about her, so there is no reason for her to say it.
It fits to her character. she runs away from her emotions too and she admits it.

Another question. Why would Yukiku tell Conan that Haibara probably likes him? Just for leading to the moment of "is there something on my face"? that's hard for me to believe. If Gosho didn't try to lead into anything more but a joke...he's doing a bad job.
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Kor wrote:
Schillok wrote:
Arghh... I just lost the text I was about to post... So, again.  :-[
AICHAN wrote: wow,i really want to know what is a solid proof?do you want to see haibara praising conan all the time? do you want to see ai blushing every time she talks to conan? it's not in her personality to show her feelings(althought she did blush a little sometimes--->the" there is something in my face"scene^^ and more recently,when ayumi thought something happened between conan and ai(vol 60))
do you want to see her saying to conan "i like you" or "i love you"?even in the canon pairigs,they don't admit it
With "proof" I mean something like this:
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Okay, that one is a bit too obivious, even for me.

And this:
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Or this:
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Or maybe that:
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But this isn't something I consider evidence for a pairing (or one-sided love):
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Well, actually it is: But for Conan towards Ran.
Well, I think we can see: In cannon pairings, they admit it! Either by words (Ran) or by actions (Takagi and his ring), but in any way obvious enough so the readers notices it.
then with the same logic there is also no proof that Heiji likes Kazuha.
you said it yourself. Haibara won't declare her love, but it doesn't mean she doesn't love as well. Why would she say outloud that she loves Conan if she sees that there is no chance that something will happen between them? She will just get hurt, and she doesn't want to get hurt. She knows Conan doesn't feel the same way about her, so there is no reason for her to say it.
It fits to her character. she runs away from her emotions too and she admits it.

Another question. Why would Yukiku tell Conan that Haibara probably likes him? Just for leading to the moment of "is there something on my face"? that's hard for me to believe. If Gosho didn't try to lead into anything more but a joke...he's doing a bad job.
exactly!
and i don't know why Haibara would dream about her cute moments with conan(vol 41)if she doesn't have some feelings for him(Ran also have dreamt/thought about her moments with shinichi...so it isn't a proof of some feelings?) maybe it's a little detail,but if you add all the little details,it's not something insignificant...
if it's not true,that means the majority of DC readers have imaginated this"haibara has feelings for conan" .. ::)
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then with the same logic there is also no proof that Heiji likes Kazuha.
Really? Never cared about that pairing so I don't know what Heiji did (or didn't do). But if he wasn't open enough... maybe it is about time for him.
you said it yourself. Haibara won't declare her love, but it doesn't mean she doesn't love as well. Why would she say outloud that she loves Conan if she sees that there is no chance that something will happen between them? She will just get hurt, and she doesn't want to get hurt. She knows Conan doesn't feel the same way about her, so there is no reason for her to say it.
It fits to her character. she runs away from her emotions too and she admits it.
So either she doesn't admit her feelings for Conan because she is afraid. Or she doesn't because she has no romantic feelings for him.
Choose what you prefer.  ;D  Only time will tell what is right.
Another question. Why would Yukiku tell Conan that Haibara probably likes him? Just for leading to the moment of "is there something on my face"? that's hard for me to believe. If Gosho didn't try to lead into anything more but a joke...he's doing a bad job.
That is what I think he intended. It was meant to be funny and lead into the "something on my face - joke". To me it wasn't more than that.
And as I said: Yuriko probably just wanted to tease her son. "Love" is an easy way for parents to tease their offspring in their teenage years.  :P
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That is what I think he intended. It was meant to be funny and lead into the "something on my face - joke". To me it wasn't more than that.
And as I said: Yuriko probably just wanted to tease her son. "Love" is an easy way for parents to tease their offspring in their teenage years. 
if it was only teasing,she would have teased him with ayumi,it would have been enough...why did she had to talk about haibara? it's because she noticed haibara's behaviour toward conan....well for most of the people it's pretty clear...
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It's obvious that Ai has a thing for Conan, but since she habitually keeps her emotions so suppressed anyway she's very subtle about it. But the evidence is obvious, in the way she acts around him and in how she acted around Ran in the beginning. The best quote it the one about the dolphins;  although Conan's too thick to notice it here, she's referring to Ran as a rival, one that she feels that she has no hope of competing with.
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AICHAN wrote: and i don't know why Haibara would dream about her cute moments with conan(vol 41)if she doesn't have some feelings for him(Ran also have dreamt/thought about her moments with shinichi...so it isn't a proof of some feelings?) maybe it's a little detail, but if you add all the little details,it's not something insignificant...
Well, you call it cute moments... (actually, I like the "Don't run away" too). But on a more neutral perspective it is about Conans and Haibaras previous confrontation with the BO or how he convinced her not to run away. Nobody will argue that Conan plays a central role in Haibaras life. Not as a romantic interest - but as one reason why she can't run away and a reason to continue developing the antidote despite her wish to leave her live as BO scientist as far behind as possible.
The dream snippets... were cute, sure. But not "romantic". And her face when she woke up did not suggest that she was enjoying dreaming about him (despite being alone in the room - at least to her knowledge).
if it was only teasing,she would have teased him with ayumi,it would have been enough...why did she had to talk about haibara?
Because Conan mentioned Ayumi himself. And I think Yukiko exclaimed how cute Ayumi was in a previous case (or was it Ran?).
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mangaluva wrote: It's obvious that Ai has a thing for Conan, but since she habitually keeps her emotions so suppressed anyway she's very subtle about it. But the evidence is obvious, in the way she acts around him and in how she acted around Ran in the beginning.
The best quote it the one about the dolphins;  although Conan's too thick to notice it here, she's referring to Ran as a rival, one that she feels that she has no hope of competing with.
I think I said it before:
I can't stand reading "Ai x Conan is FACT" when it is merely an one-sided view on some scenes.

It might be "obvious" to you, but only because you believe in that pairing.
This is what we talked about the past 2 or 3 pages: You can believe in Haibara "having a thing for Conan" all you want - but remember it is a fandom and that you were evaluating the "evidence" in a biased way. Someone who does not believe in that pairing (like me) will come to a different conclusion.
It is not "obivious". It's a matter of personal preference, unless there is really a solid proof.
Same with her relationship with Ran: You think she is envious of Ran and thinks of her as a rival. I think she reminds her too much of her sister, so having her around reminds her of her painful loss.
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I have to agree that I also never thought about ConanxAi before episode 335 ("thing on..."). But the moment Yukiko talked to Conan was a light bulb moment to me, and now everything seemed to fall into pieces. *is proud of the many English phrases he used*

Of course there is no proof for the secret, hopeless love of a withdrawn character. If there were any, Ai would not be a withdrawn character (which is quite unique in DC), or the love would not be as described.
Remember: Even quite obviously pairings (TakagixSato) had no proof (in your opinion *ahem*) for a long time and still everyone in DC noticed them, as Yukiko did with Ai (and neither was Takagis and Satos love hopeless nor were they withdrawn).
Noone else noticing is also nothing to wonder about, since both the important detectives, Heiji and Conan, seem to be a little *slow* if it gets to things like love (e.g. episode 407-408 for Heiji) - and you still have to prove HeijixKazuha or declare this pairing non-canon as well...

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Schillok wrote:
Arghh... I just lost the text I was about to post... So, again.  :-[
AICHAN wrote: wow,i really want to know what is a solid proof?do you want to see haibara praising conan all the time? do you want to see ai blushing every time she talks to conan? it's not in her personality to show her feelings(althought she did blush a little sometimes--->the" there is something in my face"scene^^ and more recently,when ayumi thought something happened between conan and ai(vol 60))
do you want to see her saying to conan "i like you" or "i love you"?even in the canon pairigs,they don't admit it
With "proof" I mean something like this:
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Okay, that one is a bit too obivious, even for me.

And this:
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Or this:
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Eww... mirrored and with horrible grammar. But I have no better copy...
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Or maybe that:
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But this isn't something I consider evidence for a pairing (or one-sided love):
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Well, actually it is: But for Conan towards Ran.
Well, I think we can see: In cannon pairings, they admit it! Either by words (Ran) or by actions (Takagi and his ring), but in any way obvious enough so the readers notices it.

Sure Ai, I is very subtile and would probably not declare her love (for which person ever) easyly. But even though we - as the readers - are able to see/read Haibaras thoughts or watch her when she is alone never got a (solid) evidence of her feeling "love" (in the meaning of romantic love) for anyone.

I think it is save to say Conan x Ai is no cannon pairing. The "hints" are not unambiguous enough, there is no proof.
That doesn't mean that there might not be solid evidence in a future chapter. Or that you can support this fandom if you like it. But don't pretend it is already there and that others just "refuse to see Haibaras obvious love for Conan".  
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I know what you mean Schillok, that happend so often to me too. :'(

Hm, yeah that are obilivous and *solid* evidences for those couples. But you know, i´m surprised no one wrote about this scene in Vol 26 chapter 4 after Shinichi cleared the case at the school theatre:
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Does that count as a proof? The german version was a bit different, but whatever.^^
I think this is more of a solid proof then the other *cute moments* and *hints* we got to see. It was the very first (and last (for now) :-[ ) time Ai Haibara really blushed. I don´t mean those three red strokes on the cheeks, i mean mad blushing like Ran or Ayumi or Sonoko or Kazuha do usually. ;)

It is possible to see it, right? I know it lose a lot of impact cause Ai is disguised as Conan and wears the mask, but the change into her bubble speech in the five panel and her shocked eyes in the first after his first question considering her motives behind her helping:

Why should she be shocked when her real reasons really were like she told him, only rational and logical? Isn´t it more cause there are other reasons (private reasons, private like in emotional) she doesn´t wnat him to know?

Why would she be so...uhm (you see that better in the anime^^") flustered when he wants to add something after her cold reply? Isn´t it more cause she kinda hoped (like i said Anime^^") for something else, dunno what exactly, maybe that he tells he *do you really believe i take that?* or whatever at least not the thing about her girl voice when she´s Conan. XD

Besides that, it shows that Shinichi doesn´t take her for granted, meaning as an ally who only supports him without other motives. You can say, that´s bad, he doesn´t trust her, but i´m sure everyone (with everyone i mean everyone!, otherwise i wants cookies to compress my sadness) agrees he does, maybe not completley, but he does trust her. ;)

On the other hand (my mind, so you can take it or shake it XDDD) you could say, he questioned her behaviour cause he realized she does too much for him. At Vol 26, they know each other for how long? A week , two or even three, maybe a month? They weren´t goody-goody friends, they were still at that point somehow *brother in arms*, two strangers with the same or a similar goal.
We all know Shinichi is not dumb (dense maybe, but not dumb), the reasons she told him, i bet he had already thought of it and felt they weren´t worth enough the things she did for him. I think that cause of the panel where she said *I have to carefully study your results first,...* where he has the *.....* speech bubble, the *something unspoken* bubble (in my eyes at least :P ). I think he thought at that point *okay, if she doesn´t want to tell me her real reasos whatever they are... maybe those are her real motives... oh whatever, her girl voice creeps me out in her Conan form.*
Just my author mind, please don´t sue me, rather gimme me cookies. ;D

For me it showed that not only Ai has feelings for him, it shows that Shinichi is able to tell the difference between a help out of need (her *careful study*) and a help cause she wanted to (to keep him and Ran safe with his secret identity cause she cares (and in his case love :P ) for both). he wanted to know her reasons for wanting to help him, like i said he´s not dumb the need reasons were already clear for him. of cource that´s not *the one and only truth*, i can be totally wrong.^^

So, do you think that counts as *solid* proof, what she did for him to disguised as Conan, so he can have a time together with Ran and her hidden first mad blush? ???
(If not, you ahve to give me tons of cookies other wise i starts to cry rivers) *goes into corner for sobbing*
(Yeah, i do threating you, girls aren´t the only ones who use crying as threating thing :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( )

You know it reminded me, when i felt that my heart beats for Aicon the first time.
It wasn´t the 18-25 Volumes like for others or this scene i hid in the spoiler, it was in between. I took that like you, Schillok. For me it the *flirting* part and other stuff  were only meant as teasing or playing mind games with him. Like the time you showed for Ayumi when she asked about Ai and her feelings for Conan, i believe at that time she told the truth to Ayumi, why lying to a child she doesn´t know much at that time?
Back to the scene i fall for Aicon, like i already said i never likes Ranichi since the first Volume.^g^

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I know the majority thinks/said/feels about this scence (i´m not only talking about the page, but the fifth panel) that Ai was pissed/angry/didn´t care /or looked like always.
For me the first thing that came into my mind wasn´t all those things, i thought:
*Why does she looks hurt?*

It was the time i guess i get a thing for it. You have the wonderful scenario, the hero who came home (for a short break, but he didn´t know that) in a disguise and the woman he loves doesn´t recongize him, but feels different in his reach of arms. The others are shocked about the bold thing the hidden hero did to the princesses and in all this uproar, was the other woman, the maid hidden as a boy, silently, looking sad and hurt towards the beautiful scenario which isn´t meant for her but with the man she wish to have it.
(My FF-blood, sorry guys and gals :-X )

After that and the 26 Volume, i rereaded the other chapters with her and Conan, i´m still saying at the beginning she was only teasing him and she told the truth to Ayumi. I even believe she didn´t love him at the point where she hold this (rose XD) gun at his head, maybe she had those feelings subconsciously, but i don´t think so.
I think she started to love him after the first time she saw his true self, his Shinichi self. Sure we didn´t saw it in the manga, but don´t tell me she didn´t saw him before the school theatre. It must h<ve been at the hospital; she did need to saw it there since she took his role and someone had to give him his school clothes. Otherwise he wouldn´t be able to get into school to change into the black knight costume.

Dunno why i thought that she looks hurt, guess it has something to do with ehr eyebrown and the scenario i wrote about, but like i saidit was the first thing that came into my mind and made me a fan of Aicon.
Until that page i never even dreamed that there would be a possible love rival for Ran. Ranichi was way too mighty at that time and i was 1000000000% sure it will end up with them (after becoming Aicon-fan, the chances are only 99,999999999999%. HOPE!HOPE!!HOPE!!! XP).

Ayumi does love Conan with her heart, i don´t think she has only a crush for him. (That doesn´t goes for Mitsuhiko and Ai, only over my dead body XD) But she loves Conan, she doesn´t know about Shinichi like Ran loves Shinichi but doesn´t know that Conan is Shinichi. There´s something both girls can´t grasp, but they are trying to do so. Ran with her dectuction Conan=Shinichi and Ayumi with Conan is like an adult.
Ai know both sides of him and she´s not a child like Ayumi (which takes her out of the race :'( ) but in the same age group like Ran and Shinichi- the perfect love rival.

Okay, i admitt: Only because she´s the *perfect love rival* like Ran always fears for that doesn´t makes her to be in love with him. But Gosho would throw away a lot of potential (and 300 extra chapters lol) if he doesn´t give her some deep, hidden feelings for Shinichi/Conan.

My opinion and my two cents. I need more then an hour for it to wrote all that + to find the pages. *sleepy*
I know Aicon didn´t get an *official* status like the others couples did with their rings, and their valentines chocolates or their *confessions to a stranger kid you meet for the first time and tell him your most important heart secret*, but it should be understandable why so many likes them together and that they all didn´t fall out of heaven, no?

Thank you all for reading. I take any (tasty!) cookie you give me- Haibara looking ones are prefered. 8)

About the fanfiction Schillok, how about i make Ran into a School Days murderer, Ai is the victim and SHinichi is between his justice thing and his lvoe for Ran? Does that sound (crazy) good? :D

Edit: Hope the pics are working now. If not, the second one is 14 page of chapter 2 from Volume 26.^^"
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I have to agree that I also never thought about ConanxAi before episode 335 ("thing on..."). But the moment Yukiko talked to Conan was a light bulb moment to me, and now everything seemed to fall into pieces. *is proud of the many English phrases he used*
"all the pieces started to fall into place"

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Schillok wrote: The number of supporters doesn't mean much. There are more supporters of Shinichi x Kid than there are of Yukiko x Yusaku. Would you really sugggest Shinichi x Kid is more realistic than the (the existing) Yusaku x Yukiko?!?   ???
1. Do you have any proof that the ShinichiXKid fanbase is bigger than the YukikoXYusaku fanbase?
2. I didn't say that if a couple has a big fanbase then it means it's canon. I said that the fact AiCon's fanbase is very huge (the second after ShinRan) means that there MUST be something between Ai and Conan that ALL these people NOTICED. Unless you're saying that ALL these hundreds of AiCon fans are just imagining things, just to prove that you are right.

Schillok wrote: No. Unless you have a solid proof for "Ais feelings of love for Conan".
This what I am talking about You can believe in your fandom all the way you want, you can even try to convince others of it. But don't say "it is the truth" just because you believe in it.
So, for you, a solid proof of love is either saying it out loud (like Ran) or giving presents (like Sonoko, Takagi, etc.)? I'm sorry but now you're just being too headstrong and you just don't wanna admit that Ai loves Conan. It's pretty obvious to EVERYONE that she has feelings for him. She's not the type to say it out loud, she won't give Conan anything and she won't confess because she knows that he loves Ran and that Ran loves him. She doesn't want to create problems, and she doesn't wanna get hurt.

Schillok wrote: No, it started earlier that she saw the similarity between Ran and Akemi. I think it was during the case at the beach where she got a sun-stroke. Which is episode 246. It's not because of jealouslyw
Not true. In episode 246, she was still in the "jealousy phase" hence her sentence about dolphins. After that, in episode 247, she goes to Ran and talks to her for the first time. Not because she realized that she reminds her of Akemi, but because of that sentence Ran said about justice.. she realized that she shouldn't be jealous of Ran, especially that Ran was always nice to her. She kinda felt sorry for her being too distant from Ran, and that's why she went to talk to her. Later, only in episode 345, when Ran protects her, Ai finally starts seeing Ran in a sisterly way.
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Uhh... long post. Very long post. And I don't know why but after I write 10 lines of text I can't see what I am typing anymore. So I might take more than one post to answer...
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I know the majority thinks/said/feels about this scence (i´m not only talking about the page, but the fifth panel) that Ai was pissed/angry/didn´t care /or looked like always.
For me the first thing that came into my mind wasn´t all those things, i thought:
*Why does she looks hurt?*
Actually, shouldn't the first question be: What is Araide doing? What is Conan going to do?
Because unless you knew what happened during this scene you would never think that Conan is Ai, right?
So his/her face is - on the drawer-reader-level - a method to reinforce the gigant bluff that takes place during the Arc. How believable would 'Conan' be with a completly neutral face?

If the first thing you thought is "Why does she looks hurt?" it mean you knew a LOT more than any normal reader reading it for the first time.

If you ask for an interpretation on the "Conan-world-level" (an explaination based on the characters; not on the storytelling level) her face could mean anything: For example a critical/concerned expression because Shinichi did not keep to the original plan of just meeting Ran after the play.
After that and the 26 Volume, i rereaded the other chapters with her and Conan, i´m still saying at the beginning she was only teasing him and she told the truth to Ayumi. I even believe she didn´t love him at the point where she hold this (rose XD) gun at his head, maybe she had those feelings subconsciously, but i don´t think so.
I don't think it is "love at first sight" either. If Ai x Conan really exists - or is going to exist - cannon-wise, it is something that developed very slowly.
At the moment I can't see it - either a) because Ai is too subile and because of my bias against that pairing; or b) because it really doesn't exist.
If you can see it it is because either: a) you are right and it exists; or b) you see it because of your bias towards that pairing, even though it does not exist.

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Not that it should matter. Maybe we will know in the future. Or maybe... never.
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Schillok wrote: Uhh... long post. Very long post. And I don't know why but after I write 10 lines of text I can't see what I am typing anymore. So I might take more than one post to answer...
BTW, the pictures aren't working but copying them and putting into a new browser window helps.
Weird...it works for me just fine. I can see all the pics, why not you????
Dang, it´s so late in my country i´m getting dizzy..... ::)
Schillok wrote: Actually, shouldn't the first question be: What is Araide doing? What is Conan going to do?
Because unless you knew what happened during this scene you would never think that Conan is Ai, right?
So his/her face is - on the drawer-reader-level - a method to reinforce the gigant bluff that takes place during the Arc. How believable would 'Conan' be with a completly neutral face?

If the first thing you thought is "Why does she looks hurt?" it mean you knew a LOT more than any normal reader reading it for the first time.

If you ask for an interpretation on the "Conan-world-level" (an explaination based on the characters; not on the storytelling level) her face could mean anything: For example a critical/concerned expression because Shinichi did not keep to the original plan of just meeting Ran after the play.
Actually i know that i was right cause Ai didn´t told about the third choice he has, but it was clear with that he would be able to convice Ran he´s not Conan (and what´s better then him being Shinichi and Ai being Conan?). Besides that she was away for a week, so she should have prepared somethign after seeing that Ran knows about his true identity. Also Araide would never hug Ran out of nowhere, Shinichi would cause he´s dum-erm naive enough to believe Sonokos lie and she was surprised to see the black knight, so that means it was another person than Araide. XD
Also Conan wouldn´t have such an Ai-looking face, only when he solves his cases or are in cool modus. 8)

True, but like i said itwas the slightly nuance in her eyebrown which makes me stop and thinking like that.^^
Schillok wrote: I don't think it is "love at first sight" either. If Ai x Conan really exists - or is going to exist - cannon-wise, it is something that developed very slowly.
At the moment I can't see it - either a) because Ai is too subile and because of my bias against that pairing; or b) because it really doesn't exist.
If you can see it it is because either: a) you are right and it exists; or b) you see it because of your bias towards that pairing, even though it does not exist.

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Not that it should matter. Maybe we will know in the future. Or maybe... never.
How about it did develope slowly, but she admitted it to herself after the theatre case. You know cause she was so happy in Agasa´s car after Conan was angry with not telling Ran everything and cause of the pages i showed in my longlonglong post.
I lol´d about Agasa´s face btw, he was like *OM..., she´s smiling and humming? Did she watch an horror movie or did she played LFD2?* XDDDDD
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Schillok wrote: The number of supporters doesn't mean much. There are more supporters of Shinichi x Kid than there are of Yukiko x Yusaku. Would you really sugggest Shinichi x Kid is more realistic than the (the existing) Yusaku x Yukiko?!?   ???
1. Do you have any proof that the ShinichiXKid fanbase is bigger than the YukikoXYusaku fanbase?
Why do i have a feeling that the ShinichixKid fanbase is even bigger then the Ranichi and Aicon fanbase tigether.......... cause it´s the truth!!! :o :o :o
Half of the Ranichi and Aicon fans are secretly ShinichixKid fnas! They infiltraed us! They have already invaded us in our sleep! :-X
They wants our balls and heads!!! We must.. aarrgggllllhll~ *gets stabbed by Kaishi ninjas*
*comes back to life*
What happend again? Ah yeah! ShinichixKid for the way! Yaoi is the best! WHAT THE **** AM I SAYING? :o

I just noticed... Girl19 ignored my support fire for her... i gonna go kamikaze myself into a crowd of Ranichi fanatics or Heishi fantatics or Obama fanatics whatever is a fantatic and within reach right now... :'(
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1. Do you have any proof that the ShinichiXKid fanbase is bigger than the YukikoXYusaku fanbase?
I looked at fanfiction.net and searched for the characters "Yusaku K. and Yukiko K." in all english storys - 6 hits
Then I did the same for "Shinichi K. and Kaito K." - 142 hits
A 22-fold increase is quite significant, won't you agree? It is similar for German, I didn't check the other languages but I expect a similar outcome. Even if you substract the fanfics that are not directly about these persons being a couple ShinichixKid stays far ahead.
Unless you're saying that ALL these hundreds of AiCon fans are just imagining things, just to prove that you are right.
I never said that. I merely stated that I didn't see these things and I imagine that I am not the only person. Which means that different interpretation are possible. I don't know which will turn out to be true... maybe Ai is in love with Conan, maybe she isn't. At the moment neither can be said for sure.
It's pretty obvious to EVERYONE that she has feelings for him.
I don't think she has fellings for him, so it is not obvious. Stop assuming that everyone thinks the same way as you do.
She's not the type to say it out loud, she won't give Conan anything and she won't confess because she knows that he loves Ran and that Ran loves him. She doesn't want to create problems, and she doesn't wanna get hurt.
But without any of that is hard to tell if she is in love or not, right? Either she doesn't say/do anything because she feels exactly like you said, or maybe she doesn't because she is not in love.
Not true. In episode 246, she was still in the "jealousy phase" hence her sentence about dolphins.
Mhh... I can't remember how often Ran and Ai met before that case. But it wasn't often, maybe even never.
I thought when she was talking about the "Dolfins" and that she wanted to prove that she wouldn't want to make it seem like she run away from them she was also talking about the Detecive Boys (or a "happy" life in general), not just Ran alone.
Her relationship to Ran is difficult - but that can be explained by many different reasons, not just jelously about a boy. As I said, maybe because she reminded her of her sister, maybe because she felt guilty because her poison affected Rans life as well or maybe she was afraid that she might become a target of the BO as well if they find out her true identity.
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