Shinichi+Ran

[stella007]

Spoiler:

It is from the latest Magic File, now called Bonus File.

[angelranchan]

Spoiler:

It is from the latest Magic File, now called Bonus File.

yeah! now I know..and I already watched it! kyaah~!
I hope DCTP will sub it soon..
I really love how Shinichi is expressing his love for Ran..but secretly :\

Shinichi is infatuated to Ran since child? I wonder why..
Is that because Ran said "You're like Holmes!" ?


btw..on sonoci-sama's story
I LIKE IT! <3
It would be epic to see Shinichi in danger..then Ran saves her..
Ran saving Conan is common..we need some Ran saving Shinichi! \o/

yeah..Shinichi's confession :\ he seems angry, pointing at Ran shouting.. but anyway..maybe he can't hide that anymore..or nervous? x''D

and we still like it (do we? or just some of us because of shinichi's way of confession?)

and..do you think Ran's confession will be held in what country? jk! xD

[stella007]

It seems Conan isn't happy about his confession. So sad T.T I really wonder why Ran doesn't miss Shinichi more. Ai and Conan keep saying Ran would miss Shinichi even more when Conan confesses his feelings. Ran doesn't show any sign.

Shinichi is infatuated to Ran since child? I wonder why.. Is that because Ran said "You're like Holmes!" ?

I think he is infatuated with Ran because she is his primary attachment. C:

[angelranchan]

It seems Conan isn't happy about his confession. So sad T.T I really wonder why Ran doesn't miss Shinichi more. Ai and Conan keep saying Ran would miss Shinichi even more when Conan confesses his feelings. Ran doesn't show any sign.

because...Gosho is a troll

Shinichi is infatuated to Ran since child? I wonder why.. Is that because Ran said "You're like Holmes!" ?

I think he is infatuated with Ran because she is his primary attachment. C:

maybe too :DDD

[kirite]

pfft hahah it's also interesting how Shinichi doesn't trust Ran much.  Well at least in catching criminals, taking care of herself, and not falling in love with other boys/girls.  I think it's hilarious whenever he rushes panic (cue dramatic shouting) to a crime scene only to find all the bad guys half dead on the floor xD.

His reaction to Ran not hitting people his hilarious too.  Like huh...are you sure you didn't mess up someone's face with Karate when you're angry or something and that's why people are trying to kill you =.-?

Sonoko is the exact opposite.  Whenever there is a suspicious guy her first reaction is "GET EM RAN!  KICK THEM WITH YOUR KARATE!" (points).  And she also trust Ran to tell her everything...though Ran doesn't always tell her everything. 

[Borealis]

Spoiler:

It is from the latest Magic File, now called Bonus File.

where can I watch it?

[ShinRan4ver]

pfft hahah it's also interesting how Shinichi doesn't trust Ran much.  Well at least in catching criminals, taking care of herself, and not falling in love with other boys/girls.  I think it's hilarious whenever he rushes panic (cue dramatic shouting) to a crime scene only to find all the bad guys half dead on the floor xD.

His reaction to Ran not hitting people his hilarious too.  Like huh...are you sure you didn't mess up someone's face with Karate when you're angry or something and that's why people are trying to kill you =.-?

Sonoko is the exact opposite.  Whenever there is a suspicious guy her first reaction is "GET EM RAN!  KICK THEM WITH YOUR KARATE!" (points).  And she also trust Ran to tell her everything...though Ran doesn't always tell her everything.  

I highly doubt Shinichi don't trust Ran, I think he don't want to put Ran in danger if possible because he loves her, therefore all incident in whcih Shinichi seem to not trust Ran can be expalined by he worries about getting her in dangerous situations . Like in the Paper Airline prank case, Shinichi repeated told ran to not rush in to rescue the kidnapped guy even though Ran points out that Shinichi himself would have done without hesitation. In the same case Shinichi went berserk on the rescue team, repeatedly telling them to hurry it up because Ran could be in danger.

Why would you not be worried(notice I didn't say trust) about  Ran who is easily frightened by ghosts and tazered from behind a bazillion times to take care of herself?? Even more so if you are deeply in loves with her, you naturally would be more worried.

As far as getting irritated when Ran might be in love with another guy, like in the Araide/Eisuke cases, I think the fact he is madly in love with Ran might have clouded his mind a bit. He did mention that emotion get in the way of logical thoughts multiple times through the whole story.

Sonoko depends on Ran for her proection, Shinichi doesn't.  It's something they grow up with, even when they were kids Shinichi tries to protect Ran in every situation- In Moon Ghost case he stands in front of Ran when Toichi shows up. This is such a such a natural instinct that Conan does it without hesitation, like when they ran into Akai in Japan.  Plus Sonoko don't have secrets that she must not tell Ran because that would put Ran in danger.

[sonoci]

Why would you not be worried(notice I didn't say trust) about  Ran who is easily frightened by ghosts and tazered from behind a bazillion times to take care of herself??

I would like to note that the ghost thing is easily put aside when proven wrong (haunted house case where the guy ran at her with his shirt over his head only to get backhanded to the face) and that the "bazillion" times of tazering is actually...once, as far as I can tell. Not to mention, no matter the person, anyone can get tazered, it's not really Ran.

Even so, Ran is more than capable of taking care of herself. I mean, in the manga, she almost always gets herself out of sticky situations, and the few times she doesn't are also cases in which any person wouldn't have reasonably been able to fight back. (ex: in the birthday case where she was "nearly drowned" she was drugged. It was pointed out in the case itself that the sleeping pill was put in a cup at random so that anyone, man or woman, adult or child, wouldn't be able to fight back)

It also very much has to do with trust. With all of Ran's proving that she can fight to protect herself taken into account, that leaves the BO business. Think about it: why not tell her? What is it that puts her in more danger than she already is? As is, if they figured out who Conan was they'd likely kill Ran anyway as she might be a lead.

And that's the danger right there.

As is, if they figured out who Conan was they'd likely kill Ran anyway as she might be a lead.

Of course Conan is worried about her safety, but her safety is something that is always in jeopardy, even on normal cases, due to the looming threat of the BO. The only thing preventing the BO from killing off the leads is that they don't know who Conan is, and that's why he doesn't tell her. It unfortunately can't be sugarcoated, but it really does come down to the fact that he doesn't trust that she can keep the secret.

However, I don't really see that as too much of a bad thing. Why? I think that Shinichi learning to trust other people will end up being a big part of his character development at the end of the series.

[Silver1412]

Hm, I agree that some sort of event would have to force Ran to get the courage. Maybe if Shinichi were in danger for once.

I was thinking it'd be cool to see Ran's confession like this:

Obviously it should be in person, there's no doubt about that, so through another antidote (for someone unknown reason at this point, obviously) he's back as Shinichi. There's some sort of case/crime/something and at the end of it, just as Shinichi's pointing out the killer/lecturing the person, he starts getting the feeling that he's turning back. In the moment of weakness, and where the culprit is mad at him, Shinichi's held at knifepoint/gunpoint. The culprit drags Shinichi off ready to kill him if the police follow, but when Ran does, she says that it's just to make sure Shinichi's okay in the end. The culprit, unaware of karateness, agrees. When a bit of a distance away, Ran suggests she switch places with Shinichi, using the opportunity to knock the knife/gun out of the guy's hands and to knock him out. In the heat of the moment and with Shinichi needing to get away to revert back to Conan, she grabs him by the arm and confesses.

This could also lead to Shinichi revealing himself to her as Conan, by not trying to get away from her as he reverts back.


There are obviously some holes to be filled, but I think this would be a nice way of doing things. 

I love this idea ~nya!!! We NEED the big reveal (As I started to call it these days.) soon!!! Though I do believe she at least partly knows he's Conan, I want the secret to get out in a way of no return

[Miyao]

and..do you think Ran's confession will be held in what country? jk! xD

Haha! I like that =))
Wooh, international love. Loljk xD

I think he is infatuated with Ran because she is his primary attachment. C:

♥

[stella007]

It also very much has to do with trust. With all of Ran's proving that she can fight to protect herself taken into account, that leaves the BO business. Think about it: why not tell her? What is it that puts her in more danger than she already is? As is, if they figured out who Conan was they'd likely kill Ran anyway as she might be a lead. And that's the danger right there. Quote As is, if they figured out who Conan was they'd likely kill Ran anyway as she might be a lead. Of course Conan is worried about her safety, but her safety is something that is always in jeopardy, even on normal cases, due to the looming threat of the BO. The only thing preventing the BO from killing off the leads is that they don't know who Conan is, and that's why he doesn't tell her. It unfortunately can't be sugarcoated, but it really does come down to the fact that he doesn't trust that she can keep the secret.

Sorry, but I can't agree on this. I think Shinichi is a very pride man and doesn't want to show his weak side -especially not to Ran. If she knows the truth about his real identity then he would think he looks weak in front of her. He really doesn't want that to happen. I don't know why but he got the idea that he has to look strong in front of her. Maybe he doesn't want that Ran doubts him. I think he wants Ran to keep the self-confident guy in her mind instead of an innocent child that can't defeat itself without hakase's gadgets.
Let's not forget that Agasa told Conan to hide this secret and later Haibara repeats Agasa's order despite of the fact that he really wants to tell her everything.

[IHKF]

^

Well... either that or this has been read way too far into and him not showing weakness in front of ANYBODY is an ideal Gosho has of the perfect man thus it just being horrible writing.


He's never exactly been the kind of character to reveal any weakness to anybody. xD

[sonoci]

I think Shinichi is a very pride man and doesn't want to show his weak side -especially not to Ran. If she knows the truth about his real identity then he would think he looks weak in front of her. He really doesn't want that to happen. I don't know why but he got the idea that he has to look strong in front of her. Maybe he doesn't want that Ran doubts him.

This almost seems to be completely contradicted by:

Let's not forget that Agasa told Conan to hide this secret and later Haibara repeats Agasa's order despite of the fact that he really wants to tell her everything.

This.

From the way I read it, it almost reads like he wants to do the very thing that he doesn't want to do.

It also almost seems to make Shinichi look worse. Him keeping the secret because of pride is almost a worse option than a lack of trust. At least if it's about him lacking trust that explains why he's worried about the secret getting out and about everyone he loves dying. If he thought that Ran could keep the secret and he wasn't telling her so he could keep his pride in check, it would almost seem like he's letting her cry and be worried about him everyday just so she thinks of him as a more confident person. He's said before he doesn't like to see her cry, so this doesn't make sense to me with the pride explanation. If it's with a lack of trust, then the reason he can't tell her and stop her crying is because he'd hate it more to see her physically hurt or dead, which is what he would ultimately believe to happen if he had a lack of trust.


I guess in the long run it's more of an interpretation. I personally put it to a lack of trust, since the pride reason...really just doesn't work for me. Maybe for a different character, but not Shinichi.

[kirite]

However, I don't really see that as too much of a bad thing. Why? I think that Shinichi learning to trust other people will end up being a big part of his character development at the end of the series.

That will be an epic end Edogawa Conan" dilemma.

Being a little kid means:

Can't defend himself so he depends on other to defend him-  check that, he kicks super soccer balls, stuns people, shoots guns, before making people surrender with his amazing detective geniusness.  People do come in and help him of course....after the case is solved and all the tension is gone (Gosho: trolololol)

No one listens to him- check that, Takagi practically knows he really is so he follows all his plans .  If not there is always sleeping Kogoro/ Yamamura/ Sonoko.  Well he does ask question to prompt the bystanders to guess the culprit by themselves, but he kinda does that type of fishing when he was Shinichi.

Stuck with stupid kids and stupid school all the time-  He has Haibara now and is constantly in contact with Heiji, other policeman, FBI, CIA.  The Detective Boys seem like lots of fun nowadays too (camping, fishing, hotsprings, sushi, my gosh).  They're also getting smarter (in my opinion).

Can't catch KID:  Ehhh you couldn't catch KID when you were Shinichi either buddy.

Can't confess to his girlfriend cause he felt it was selfish of him to make her miss him even more, that if he can't go back he would let her go-  Errrr.  Yeah about that... <3

[sonoci]

Heiji was also the person who opened the door for Haibara during the Halloween incident.

...I thought that Haibara broke out herself with a screwdriver? Heiji was at the party when she got out :X